I need help; growing auto with leds vs Timber vs Viparspectra?

Hello; I have two, 2 week old Automatic plants and im using a "1000w WBL" led device... (the picture of my actual led)

I have read a lot recently about led lights and I ended up figuring out that its not going to give me the best results, yet, I have them in my closet so I cant use HPS or anything like that.

So im looking after the Timber grow lights, vs a Tasty led vs VIPARSPECTRA PAR600

I dont know what to do and If I choose Timber, what color range to use for autos??

VIPARSPECTRA PAR600 is supposed to have full spectrum, but I don’t know how it is going to be when plants grow a little more and the plants in the bottom will not receive enough light, I guess...

Please, recommend me something, or, please give me a link for a thread that discuses this.

Keep in mind they are in my closet and they are only 2 plants.


Thanks so much for any comment.

Check out the diy kits on rapidled. For the price of the vispecttra you can get a good cover kit. I've heard the vispecttra is great for veg but lacks in flower.

Ok, but there you have to choose the light frequency;

I need it for both grow and flower since they are automatic. Thanks for your reply

Lance541 said:

Check out the diy kits on rapidled. For the price of the vispecttra you can get a good cover kit. I've heard the vispecttra is great for veg but lacks in flower.

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If I choose one of rapidLed; what is the light frequency thats ok for veg and flower?
There are like from 5 to choose:
Thanks

3500 k is what I use...

Don't buy the Viparspectra, it is a broad spectrum panel, if they cut the price in half then I would suggest it.

If you use the Vero29 Gen 7 B, C, or D, get the 3000K, 80 CRI for autos.

TastyLED has the T-22 and T-33.

I'm building my own out of TastyLED light engines.

Bridgelux Vero29 Gen 7 Color Spectrum

I got the Vero 29 kit 3500 like hydrodan was saying 2100b as well. Make sure you get a b driver and a dimmer switch if you go this route. Make sure you choose the poke in option as well for $7.50 Did months of research and concluded that nothing under $500 can compete with cob/quatum boards right now. Anything out of China is shit my option.

Edit: I'm running a 2'x3'x5'

Tha

Enigma said:

Don't buy the Viparspectra, it is a broad spectrum panel, if they cut the price in half then I would suggest it.

If you use the Vero29 Gen 7 B, C, or D, get the 3000K, 80 CRI for autos.

TastyLED has the T-22 and T-33.

I'm building my own out of TastyLED light engines.

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Thanks! SO 3000k will be good for both growing and flowering?

I'm using two 3000K and one 4000K to test.

Check the colour spectrum chart.

Plenty of red in the 4000K and a little blue in the 3000K. Adjusting both spectrums will help with the flowering transition, weight and frost at the end.

jlichi said:

Tha

Thanks! SO 3000k will be good for both growing and flowering?

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If you use only 3000K make sure you use the 80 CRI to keep the stretch down.

Make sure to check out TastyLED.com, send an email to Kevin, he will be able to help you with any detailed questions you have and direct you to the option that will best suit your needs.

That's where I'm getting all things COB.

Enigma said:

Don't buy the Viparspectra, it is a broad spectrum panel, if they cut the price in half then I would suggest it.

If you use the Vero29 Gen 7 B, C, or D, get the 3000K, 80 CRI for autos.

TastyLED has the T-22 and T-33.

I'm building my own out of TastyLED light engines.

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YES! so i will not buy Viparspectra again, waste of our money and time

Vipar good for veg, small grows. No where near a flower light. But I've had happy vegging plants.
I'm still seeing newer blurples in side by side grows blowing away the cobs and QBs. In every case they ran one spectrum either the 3000k and 3500k. All cases it came down to just having better results with a broader spectrum that the blurples do produce. All the blurples did run it and uv. The QBs in my opinion are looking the best as you can fully customize what color lights and where. But even with QBs,most research ive seen is still running QBs in Veg only. So in my honest opinion. I'm just down right confused now on the whole mess. Get a MH bulb lmao

BudgetGrows said:

Vipar good for veg, small grows. No where near a flower light. But I've had happy vegging plants.
I'm still seeing newer blurples in side by side grows blowing away the cobs and QBs. In every case they ran one spectrum either the 3000k and 3500k. All cases it came down to just having better results with a broader spectrum that the blurples do produce. All the blurples did run it and uv. The QBs in my opinion are looking the best as you can fully customize what color lights and where. But even with QBs,most research ive seen is still running QBs in Veg only. So in my honest opinion. I'm just down right confused now on the whole mess. Get a MH bulb lmao

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I've been looking at the Bridgelux EB Series, you can build with those, save money and they seem to compete with blurple or better at a much lower price.

TIMBER ALL THE WAY

The vipar actually do not too bad in flower, qb and cob are definitely better but if you're short on cash then vipar WILL pull you some okay bud, plenty hitting the 1g per watt with it (qb's are getting 2g with experienced growers)

This is under just the 300w vipar with a little supplemental cfl, 3 and a half weeks into flower, should be a big girl when she's done!

Forget these bullshit full spectrum claims from Vipar. Full spectrum sun light is not blurple .. If you really want to get full spectrum take a white light, everything between 3000 and 4000°C is okay as all-in-one. I would recommend using 3000°K/CRI90 because it provides a bit more blue as the 3000°k/CRI80 pondon but with a lot more deep and far-red. More deep and far-red means shortened flowering, sometimes by a week or more.

If you want to get it right the first time, 3000-4000°K/CRI90 is the way to go.
There may be minimal stretch with CRI90, but we are talking about 2-4 ", so not worth mentioning. But one week less per flower circle means probably one additional grow per year and that's what counts.

Timber has some badass growlights which are fitting perfect for your needs. And you probably will not need a new one for 5 or more years ... of course, only if you do not become addicted to LED, LOL!

Regardless how much of their claims are BS..
You can get one for £50 and it will yield you 100g (if you're a half decent grower)
The newer/better leds just can't compete with that low price. They are better VALUE as they are more efficient but show me a light for £50 or under that will outperform a vipar 300w

I do plan to upgrade to cobs or QB but the little vipar has done amazingly for such a low start up cost

Yeah!
Most of these shitty blurple units grow bud, at least for a half decent grower but watt for watt effiency is not better as old HPS technique, maybe 30-35%. So you can expect a 1g/w as well from these lights.
BUT when we talk about COB's, QB's and latest LED-strips we are in the 50-60% effiency range, which means 1,5-1,8g/w should be possible for the same half decent grower.
You don't save electricity with such lights and I doubt that they will run 5 years without any defect. They do not use good branded LED's nor good branded drivers and even if they offer replacement warranty, I would not feel like repairing it myself. Many people have rebuilt their blurple units and equipped them with white COB LEDs, with good success.
A lot of how-to's on youtube..