I NEED HELP POSTE 5 TIMES CANT SOLVE THE PROBLEM.pics

panta

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12 days old euphoria duch passion,got also purple haze same age same problem it started 4 days ago,its not the soil i grown in this soil many strains ph 6.5 n-p-k 14-16-18 0.7kg/m3 thats the soil called seedling german brand,ph water 6.5,no nutes,temp day 25c temp night 21c,good ventilation,this shit is spreding fast i flushed a few plants and it didnt stop tryed some fugicide it didnt help,im posted this 5 times and still cant figure it out,if theres someone whit knowlege of what this can be,im thinking some kinda disease
 

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k|ng18

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I'd agree that soil looks as if it's been over watered...is that pic taken after the flushing?
 

ferrotype

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Thats exactly what my seedlings looked like when I first tried to grow...
oh so long ago...

I was overwatering, and the soil was so dense and heavy, it couldnt drain properly, and then my plants showed thier pain. - they weren't getting enough Co2 and weren't producing any O2..

I changed my soil to a 50/50 suculent mix and miracle grow moisture control, and things have been great now...

We also have a nice grow room built for total atmospheric control.

Maybe you should start your seedlings in Rockwool cubes..
We have found this to be the best... for us anyway.
When ready... we just drop the cubes into our growing medium.
 

tusseltussel

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Roots require Oxygen to breathe and low levels are the main cause of almost all root diseases. Both soil and hydroponic plants often fall prey to the same syndrome although it is rarely recognized as what it really is. Hydroponic crops often fail due to "root rot" and soil crops succumb to "over watering." The real cause of both these problems is a shortage of Oxygen at the root zone. In a soil system the soil consists of particles, a film of water on the particles and air spaces between the particles. When too much water is put into the soil the air spaces fill with liquid. The roots will quickly use up what Oxygen is dissolved in the water, if they haven't drunk enough of the liquid to allow air back in to the soil spaces they will stop working. In this situation roots will start dying within twenty-four hours. As the roots die the plants ability to drink water and nutrients will decrease, this will cause symptoms of nutrient deficiencies (mostly pale, slow, weak growth), and strangely they will start to wilt like they don't have enough water. It is easy to make a fatal mistake at this point and add more water.
 

Twistyman

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I don't nute at all at that age...... I also like a 50-50% promix soil for good drainage...luck..
 

panta

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i grown in this soil 80 plants 20 seeds indoor mix 20 seeds outdoor mix,afghani 10 seeds,early skunk,northern lights and skunk #1 all the same,that was 6 months ago had no problems,i didnt overwater,i always wait for the cup to get light when i lift it and the soil is dry when i stick my finger in it,the soil is wet on the pics thats couse i took them the day when i flushed,i put an airstone for an hour in the water right before i water my plants,and i planted 2 seeds in rockwool cubes a day ago just to make sure to see how they grow but that gonna be atlest 12 day for me to see the reults couse all my plants grow healthy for the fist 8 days and then this starts some sooner some later, but i dont think its the soil couse i been growing in it in the past and everything was great,and i asked the people at the store where i bought it they said that its not strong it cant hurt your plants i told them im growing tomatos,so they gave me some fugicide and i tryed that but it didnt work,i dont know what else to do my plants are dying i had 20 now i got 17 like this in 10 days its gona be 3 left.i got pics of the roots
 

Bamstone

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For what it's worth, I have had trouble starting DP Blueberry and a few other strains in the soil I nomally use with great success (Fox Farms Ocean Forest). My plants looked just like yours, stalled and unhealthy.

I then tried starting them in 50% Miracle Grow Seed Starting Mix (mostly spagnum peat) combined with 50% Ocean Forrest, and that did the trick - no more problems.
Once they become healthy seedlings I repot them into FFOF and they do great.
 

tusseltussel

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i still think its the soil not draining well.. every plant ive ever seen that looked like that was bcause the soil was to wet... i woulld pot em up in somthing lighter.... i made brownies that look like your soil mmmmmmm brownies:peace:
 

panta

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this doesnt make sense all those plants and no problem and how can it be that now its to strong for seedling,but im gonna listen to your advice and tomorow ill transplant in some other soil,since i dont live in usa what kind of a soil should i look for when i ask the clerk at the store and should i shake this old soil from the roots when i transplant as they are not to strong its all falling apart as i pull it from the container or should i just transplant normal the whole thing like in the pics
 

natmoon

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this doesnt make sense all those plants and no problem and how can it be that now its to strong for seedling,but im gonna listen to your advice and tomorow ill transplant in some other soil,since i dont live in usa what kind of a soil should i look for when i ask the clerk at the store and should i shake this old soil from the roots when i transplant as they are not to strong its all falling apart as i pull it from the container or should i just transplant normal the whole thing like in the pics
Just because some soil is out of the same bag or even the same brand one bag can easily be stronger than another.

Always empty the whole bag out and mix it well by hand and if you want my advice add perlite at 3 pots perlite to 7 of pure soil mix.
I always add water crystals as well as per the exact kind that you have purchased instructions.

IMO never use any soil that has slow release nutes in it for seedlings as this can easily nute burn them especially if you have accidentally over watered them.
Lift the whole plant up and just soak it in some room temp clean water in a large bowl until the soil has fell away carefully and slowly then simply replant it in your new soil carefully.
Best of luck with itbongsmilie
 

ferrotype

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this doesnt make sense all those plants and no problem and how can it be that now its to strong for seedling,but im gonna listen to your advice and tomorow ill transplant in some other soil,since i dont live in usa what kind of a soil should i look for when i ask the clerk at the store and should i shake this old soil from the roots when i transplant as they are not to strong its all falling apart as i pull it from the container or should i just transplant normal the whole thing like in the pics
i wouldnt shake the plants...
remember - dont shake babies!!
gently remove soil with a little water..
ask your clerk for succulent mix.. has LOTS of good drainage stuff in it...
and mix 50/50 with some other soil than what you are currently using.

thats what has worked for me anyway.
 

Tamzi

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does not look like fugi attack.

personaly i think its strain and the soil. the soil looks very dark ( compost type look) and i bet when you smell that soil it has a sweetish aroma. i would first repot with some perlite,sand etc, etc, break up that soil abit more and add some loose structure too it. its a heavy compost type soil too i would say.

also look at everything else. bottles used for watering, clean grow area, water correct, soil ph,

you may have grown with this soil before and found good results, that could depend on where seeds came from plant wise. but i would look into soil that looks like a nuet problem. as for soil look for a seedling/cutting type medium
 
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