"I would not advocate that we put a Muslim in charge of this nation" -Ben Carson

Padawanbater2 said:

I think you're using two different sets of standards for Christianity and Islam because one has run through the gauntlet of western civilization for a couple thousand years and developed a cushy makeover for the 21st century while the other is still very much in its openly barbaric phase. You go back just a few hundred years and Christianity was exactly the same.

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ttystikk said:

I disagree. The are millions of devout, faithful, practicing Muslims here in America and around the world who accept the local law of the land as their law, and obey everything from human rights to traffic signals because it's the right thing to do... in other words, the decision of a few barbaric monsters to use Islam as a cover for their terrorist activities has nothing to do with the practice of that religion for everyone.

We have plenty of Christians who kill in the name of doing abortions, as insane as it sounds, it's exactly the same thing.

You can't call one religion more barbaric than the other, only the activities of the individuals who would use it as their excuse.

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OddBall1st said:

You have plenty of Christian claimers. Your first paragraph needs to be drilled into the fucking heads of sooooooo many people.

And Paddy doesn`t realize that a few hundred years ago, the options were not the same and not one Christian killed in the name of their God.

There are so many good Muslim that do nothing about the atrocities of the other Muslim extremists,...But if a group of Christians started a land grab and murdered like the Muslim faith,....it would be over the next day,...we`re going on two years now with ISIS and it`s just getting and is allowed to get stronger.

Putin has other idea`s and will show Obama once again,....How to handle that, and what to say to those very unhelpful Muslim followers that do nothing but watch. The few Muslim over their trying and dying, are left hanging by those living in America. They don`t have each others six cuz all they care about is themselves, for the most part.

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ttystikk said:

Christian claimers? You lost me.

A few hundred years ago, Christians ran the inquisition, among many other religiously mandated atrocities. I'm sorry, history runs red with the blood of many examples where you got this one dead wrong.

There are plenty of Christians who don't stand against the wrongdoing of others of THEIR faith, either. So I wouldn't go there.

...But if it's Jews stealing land from Palestinians, it's okay? Your logic is perverted here.

WTF is Putin doing in this discussion? LOL

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OddBall1st said:

The problem I see is that you actually believe these authorities were Christian. They are ,...... Claimers.

Any Christian knows that there is one and only one Christ and he is that authority. Anyone,...including the Pope, that claims authority,...is full of shit. They, at best are nothing more than smarter than others.

Any Christian also knows that Christ`s description of punishment is an "eye for an eye".....but vengeance is the fathers. He foreseen those Claimers and they could not sell the BS today, not so for yesterday when the world was flat and the sun went around the Earth.

You need to shy away from yesterday`s actions being the excuse for tomorrows, today.

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OddBall1st said:

The problem I see is that you actually believe these authorities were Christian. They are ,...... Claimers.

Any Christian knows that there is one and only one Christ and he is that authority. Anyone,...including the Pope, that claims authority,...is full of shit. They, at best are nothing more than smarter than others.

Any Christian also knows that Christ`s description of punishment is an "eye for an eye".....but vengeance is the fathers. He foreseen those Claimers and they could not sell the BS today, not so for yesterday when the world was flat and the sun went around the Earth.

You need to shy away from yesterday`s actions being the excuse for tomorrows, today.

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ttystikk said:

I dunno, man-
I've been listening to the Pope's speeches during his current visit to the United States and I must admit that I'm shocked at just how much he and I agree on;

He wants the world's leaders to make wealth inequality, feeding, housing and caring for the poor and reversing environmental damage global priorities. I'm with that ten thousand percent! I'm still not okay with outlawing abortions, but that's the one and only point of disagreement between us. He strikes me as the 'finding points of agreement and building on them' kind of guy as opposed to obsessing over differences.

I totally dig the pics of him waving at the crowds from the back seat of his 1984 Fiat 500, too... it sends a message loud and clear- one I like a lot better than the one a luxurious but bulletproof limousine sends.

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OddBall1st said:

One day even the Pope will realize what I meant when I told him,...they know not what they do............Jesus.

One may not understand this but, Jesus did not give Lazarus someone`s flesh, he kept his own..........OddBall1st

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ttystikk said:

So now you're telling us that you're giving advice to the pope!?

Congrats, you've lived up to your handle.

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OddBall1st said:

No, you read it with one eye. Not what I said at all...........

My handle is from the bowels of fission.

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bluntmassa1 said:

We are buying fruit for dirt cheap in Africa and selling it for good money in America and most ends up in landfills while Africans starve.

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Bugeye said:

Wow! That's one crazy brain surgeon.

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ttystikk said:

I dunno, man-
I've been listening to the Pope's speeches during his current visit to the United States and I must admit that I'm shocked at just how much he and I agree on;

He wants the world's leaders to make wealth inequality, feeding, housing and caring for the poor and reversing environmental damage global priorities. I'm with that ten thousand percent! I'm still not okay with outlawing abortions, but that's the one and only point of disagreement between us. He strikes me as the 'finding points of agreement and building on them' kind of guy as opposed to obsessing over differences.

I totally dig the pics of him waving at the crowds from the back seat of his 1984 Fiat 500, too... it sends a message loud and clear- one I like a lot better than the one a luxurious but bulletproof limousine sends.

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Uncle Ben said:

#1 status symbol, a must have for young African males who usually do nothing all day but loaf is a cellphone. Next "must have" is a bicycle.

FACT

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bluntmassa1 said:

So what all Africans are the same? And don't mind starving long as they get a cell phone? How much time have you spent in Africa? You seem to have them all figured out.

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Uncle Ben said:

I read an article on this in National Geographic. It was a story on how young African men spend their days, which is primarily non-productive. If they starve, it's their own fault. If they starve their own children, it's their own damn fault. And the selling of young girls into sexual slavery is another huge problem in such countries, dominated by Muslims I might add.

Now, before you say something stupid like "well, that's a conservative mag", you're wrong. They swing left. Have been a subscriber for years.

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