Ice hash EPIC FAIL -- damn, I grow good but I SUCK at making ice hash!

kryptoniteglo

kryptoniteglo

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What a fucking waste of a bag of Jillybean trim! I watched Sub's tutorials several times, had my bags, my ice, my metal spoon. Did it all. Got nothing but the tiniest hint of hash at the bottom of a couple of bags, but it was so small I couldn't even scrape it up.

In one of the tutorials Sub says he'll thaw the soaked trim, then use for butter. I'm going to do that and mix with all the other trim I still have.

Hoped to do hash, but will now be happy with edibles.

I'm sure it takes some practice to get it right -- I just don't want to waste any more trim. They had tons of trichs on them when I froze them, so I know they're there. Just couldn't make it work.
 
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SSHZ

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Then something isn't right, if you got such a small amount. Do a google search for "DRY ICE" hash making- they're are plenty of good detail videos on doing it right.

Come to think of it- did you use DRY ICE? Not regular ice, but dry ice?

Regular ice is used in "cold water" hash extraction. There is no water in the "dry ice" method.
 
kryptoniteglo

kryptoniteglo

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SSHZ said:
Then something isn't right, if you got such a small amount. Do a google search for "DRY ICE" hash making- they're are plenty of good detail videos on doing it right.

Come to think of it- did you use DRY ICE? Not regular ice, but dry ice?

Regular ice is used in "cold water" hash extraction. There is no water in the "dry ice" method.
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I used ice as per Sub's tutorial -- so it was cold water hash extraction. I should have been able to replicate his results at least a little. But for shits and giggles, I'll show you guys what I got:

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So less than 1/4 teaspoon. And very green.

Canna butter, I hope you will be my friend...
 
grownbykane

grownbykane

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some food for though... while my jillybean cut produces outstanding flowers and yields plenty of bud, her trim yields the least amount of hash of any plant I have ever grown. try another strain...
 
kryptoniteglo

kryptoniteglo

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grownbykane said:
some food for though... while my jillybean cut produces outstanding flowers and yields plenty of bud, her trim yields the least amount of hash of any plant I have ever grown. try another strain...
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Nice to know!!! I've never made hash before, so I just looked at all the frosty trichs on the leaves and thought something would come of it.

Cool. I will NOT give my bag set away in disgust. I'll try with a different strain. I do have some Apollo 13 beans, which I recall is supposed to be a heavy hash producer, so when I get around to growing Apollo 13, I'll try again.

Thanks for the heads up!
 
mrCRC420

mrCRC420

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grownbykane said:
some food for though... while my jillybean cut produces outstanding flowers and yields plenty of bud, her trim yields the least amount of hash of any plant I have ever grown. try another strain...
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Sometimes it's not a tiny error or a trick question. Sometimes it's just how it is.
 
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SSHZ

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I did it the "old" cold water extraction method for many years and generally was happy with it. Then I saw some video's using dry ice and they were pulling like 5X or 6X the amount off hash of their shake, in a matter of a few minutes. Dry ice is about 5X as cold as regular ice and the hash literally jumps off the bud. I think there was a video with subcool doing it somewhere too. Once you try it, you'll never go back.

Hash production is sometimes dependent on the strain too. Indica's generally yield more hash then sativa's. It also depends on how cold your water was, how long you agitated the mixture, the size of your screen(s), the quality and amount of your starting material, etc.
 
kryptoniteglo

kryptoniteglo

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SSHZ said:
I did it the "old" cold water extraction method for many years and generally was happy with it. The I saw some video's using dry ice and they were pulling like 5X or 6X the amount of hash of their shake, in a matter of a few minutes. Dry ice is about 5X as cold as regular ice and the hash literally jumps off the bud. I think their was a video with subcool doing it too somewhere too. Once you try it, you'll never go back.

Hash production is sometimes dependent on the strain too. Indica's generally yield more hash then sativa's. It also depends on how cold your water was, how long you agitated the mixture, the size of your screen(s), the quality and amount of your starting material, etc.
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Thanks for the info -- I might try dry ice next time.
 
Nutes and Nugs

Nutes and Nugs

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Somebody on RIU posted this a few months back.
Cool shit.

[video=youtube;1buSgDNfGFQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1buSgDNfGFQ[/video]
 
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Daemon

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The very first i made ice-o-lator hasch i made only enough for a pipe with 30G of nice trim but after a few years of practice i get good amount of it, usually 10-15% of the green material used. You really need to have cold water and shake for long time if you shake by hand. I had good result with my Jillybean trim as other strains. Next time have some water in freezer a few hours before you use it as well as freezing buds and when shaking by hand you have to shake for 15-20 min minimum to get good result. You should try again to make ice-o haschich cause it worth the work.In my country you can't get dry ice as you want because it's an extremly dangerous product so i've never seen how the result can be. I think you have to be extra careful if you use dry ice.
 
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SSHZ

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Dry ice isn't dangerous until you don't have a brain. I just use a glove when u touch it, no problem at all. Safeway (a nationwide supermarket in the U.S.) sells dry ice, as do many other types of businesses. By freezing it so much colder with dry ice, the hash practically falls off the bud in a few seconds. Try it once and you'll never go back to your old methods.
 
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rooky1985

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SSHZ said:
I did it the "old" cold water extraction method for many years and generally was happy with it. Then I saw some video's using dry ice and they were pulling like 5X or 6X the amount off hash of their shake, in a matter of a few minutes. Dry ice is about 5X as cold as regular ice and the hash literally jumps off the bud. I think there was a video with subcool doing it somewhere too. Once you try it, you'll never go back.

Hash production is sometimes dependent on the strain too. Indica's generally yield more hash then sativa's. It also depends on how cold your water was, how long you agitated the mixture, the size of your screen(s), the quality and amount of your starting material, etc.
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Which micron bag do you use for the dry ice extraction?
 
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SSHZ

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I have a 3 bag system, and use the middle bag. I don't know the micron size of the mesh- sorry. The bigger the holes, the more hash you get though. If you don't go long when shaking, the hash will be very blond.
 
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rooky1985

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SSHZ said:
I have a 3 bag system, and use the middle bag. I don't know the micron size of the mesh- sorry. The bigger the holes, the more hash you get though. If you don't go long when shaking, the hash will be very blond.
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Thanks I'm going to make some the process looks much faster and easier than the water extraction that I have used. Do run it multiple times or is it just one and done?
 
chbk

chbk

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From my few runs of dry ice hash you lose a lot of flavor, but 3x the yield! Waterbubble is a much better hash in my opinion...
 
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rooky1985

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chbk said:
From my few runs of dry ice hash you lose a lot of flavor, but 3x the yield! Waterbubble is a much better hash in my opinion...
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Do you think the lost quality and gained yield could be contributed to "over working" the trim? Would dry ice do as well with a smaller micron bag in your opinion? I'm just curious I've never done the dry ice method before.
 
chbk

chbk

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The first time I used a 160 bag an a fair amount of shaking. then next run, I dropped down to a 120 bag got better an blonder hash an only lost afew grams.
 
Nutes and Nugs

Nutes and Nugs

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In the video they are using a 220 work bag. Whatever that means.
Wish I had one but dry ice is hard to find in this small town.
Last I bought was $6.oo a pound and it was more dry frost than ice.
 
kryptoniteglo

kryptoniteglo

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Very helpful discussion for me, thanks! I have been a little worried about dry ice, as I remember an "incident" in high school in a science lab. So in my mind it might be more dangerous than it actually is, and simple precautions would alleviate any problems.
 
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SSHZ

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Quality is exactly the same, no matter which method you use. The longer you do it though, the more green the hash gets- meaning you are getting more leaf matter in the hash. I'd shake it with each bag you have, and go from there. The higher quality hash is blond, which I keep. The more green stuff goes to others. The hash does retain some moisture from the dry ice, so it's a good idea to let it sit out for a few hours......but it's no where as wet as the cold water extraction method.
 
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