backyardagain
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i ran 220 190 160)=trash (90 73 45 = keeper been working for me so far. tried the 25 sometimes to but till i get extended walls im not doing it,
ICE WAX (bubble hash) with Matt Rize
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650baquet
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making ice wax is a labor of love though, takes alot longer to do right than any other method.
Until I can do enough studying up on ice hash I won't try it again only do to the need to yield the most I can in concentrate and in a easier method. Though, full melt ice wax is the best! Can't wait until I feel I have the spare time to make some great ice wax with great yields!
Until I can do enough studying up on ice hash I won't try it again only do to the need to yield the most I can in concentrate and in a easier method. Though, full melt ice wax is the best! Can't wait until I feel I have the spare time to make some great ice wax with great yields!
Jester0420
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a 120 bag would make your 90 much better I have found, hope it helps , also payload bags are the bomb! cheap, quality and extended mesh! cant lose!
backyardagain
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i actually ran the 120 instead this time before seeing this and i have ti agree my 73 came out alot lighter and better at melting. and if you pick it up it almost feels like kif,
Grindin8732
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Ways up everyone, been using dry trim and was going to try fresh frozen in a couple weeks when I harvest, but have a couple questions.. Do i need to let it sit in the ice water before agitating? If so, for how long? And I was gonna invest in a nicer set of bags, any recommendations?
backyardagain
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id let it sit 20 30 minuets with good frozen trim and for bags id look for something with extended walls if you plan on doing alot through it and a better name brand for the better stitching
Grindin8732
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Thanks Kalyx, any brand recommendations for bags?
I was looking at the payloads but there are so many brands out
I was looking at the payloads but there are so many brands out
iloveyoumj
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Amazon has the 5 bag by iPower for 32 bucks. Have not tried them yet, plan to test it out next weekend. Seem nicely made though. Good reviews.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005TY2MFS
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005TY2MFS
bowlfullofbliss
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why are these so inexpensive compared to the brand names? is this a typical case of you get what you pay for, and these bags will be in the trash in 6 months, or is it really not worth buying the brand name ones?
Baywatcher
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My first set were cheap Amazon sets. Cheap stitching, questionable materials. I have a set of bubblebags on the way. At least I only threw away $50 on them.
KBkiller42
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Hey Matt what is the ideal temperature for drying your hash? I heard in one video that your drying temperature is around 50 degrees. What if my room temperature is well above that? Should i try drying inside a cooler?
Grindin8732
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I made a small batch using fresh frozen today and it came out green, trying to figure out what I did wrong..
i loaded the work bag and let it soak for ten minutes then hand stirred for 4 min, let sit for 5 min then strained with 190, 160, 73, 45, and 25. I've used the same methods but with dry cured then frozen trim and got great results so I don't know where I went wrong, any help or advise would be appreciated!
i loaded the work bag and let it soak for ten minutes then hand stirred for 4 min, let sit for 5 min then strained with 190, 160, 73, 45, and 25. I've used the same methods but with dry cured then frozen trim and got great results so I don't know where I went wrong, any help or advise would be appreciated!
Baywatcher
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Just finished microplaning a mixed batch.
Kalyx et. al.,
How long do YOU dry the patty before micro-planing? I have experimented with drying it about 24 hours in a cool room in a drying rack as well as drying it on frequently changed paper towels in the refrigerator for an hour or so and many variations in between. I've only ever had my 70 be truly dabbable. After zesting, I have dried for between 24 hours and 2 weeks in the same cool room. One issue is my humidity is not controlled. It seems my best results came in my first couple batches. My bags look to be clean, we rinse them backwards immediately after use. My washer is clean, we run heated water through it before use and rinse it well after use. I have run 3 different strains, mostly FF and on Sunday dry frozen. Thanks all! Rize up!
How long do YOU dry the patty before micro-planing? I have experimented with drying it about 24 hours in a cool room in a drying rack as well as drying it on frequently changed paper towels in the refrigerator for an hour or so and many variations in between. I've only ever had my 70 be truly dabbable. After zesting, I have dried for between 24 hours and 2 weeks in the same cool room. One issue is my humidity is not controlled. It seems my best results came in my first couple batches. My bags look to be clean, we rinse them backwards immediately after use. My washer is clean, we run heated water through it before use and rinse it well after use. I have run 3 different strains, mostly FF and on Sunday dry frozen. Thanks all! Rize up!
cannachef
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my guess would be becuase there is no need to soak when you are using fresh frozen matierial. you soak when using dry material to rehydrate it, in hopes of not letting the chlorophyll into the hash.
edit - also i'm not sure that you need to let it sit after the stir, this is just my opinion, but using a sprayer on the bag after immediatly pulling it up and letting it drain should be enough. the faster you move with the cool temps you have the better.
Baywatcher
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The cookie sheet above ended up as right at 32g. The breakdown was (micron/g): 160/1, 120/11.5, 90/4.15, 73/5.3, 45/5.6, 25/4.4. I didn't weigh it, but it was around 4-5 oz of dry trim. Based on the mixed bowl I just hit from scraping the cookie tray, it is *not* going to be productivity-enhancing 
Couch enhancing is more like it.
Couch enhancing is more like it.
Kalyx
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You should still soak fresh frozen. It can get very brittle when frozen just like dry. Green can result from shredding leaf while too frozen/brittle. Some varieties also have leaves that shred easier no matter what. (Not good IWE plants)
When to grate is a key part of creating true Ice Wax. Ideal drying temp., grating temp., and timing will vary with each trim batch(grow)/hash run and also by variety (resin profile). IME the meltier varieties need to be cooler to even grate.
Drying should be slowed by BOTH cool temp and proper humidity. The idea is to initially "dry" it cool and at the correct humidity (thus rate) to the perfect grating point, but grate it before its "completely dry" and traps water/moisture in at the microscopic level. (This is what makes most bubble hash bubble so much, trapped water finally escaping! and IMO is a sign of IWE that could have been made better, not a sign of dankness!) Increasing the surface area before it heats up and the oils and water can more easily mix is what I am currently working on. The season is against me now though... Can't wait to move further north!
When to grate is a key part of creating true Ice Wax. Ideal drying temp., grating temp., and timing will vary with each trim batch(grow)/hash run and also by variety (resin profile). IME the meltier varieties need to be cooler to even grate.
Drying should be slowed by BOTH cool temp and proper humidity. The idea is to initially "dry" it cool and at the correct humidity (thus rate) to the perfect grating point, but grate it before its "completely dry" and traps water/moisture in at the microscopic level. (This is what makes most bubble hash bubble so much, trapped water finally escaping! and IMO is a sign of IWE that could have been made better, not a sign of dankness!) Increasing the surface area before it heats up and the oils and water can more easily mix is what I am currently working on. The season is against me now though... Can't wait to move further north!
greenghost420
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IMO freeze your patty and grating materials asap and grate after 30-60 minutes , you want the water out as fast as possible. also i dont soak my fresh frozen more than one minute. i run 2 times real gentle to get good shit, then beat the fuck out of it to make sure nothings left behind and my hash hasnt been green yet! all beat by hand and kept real cold. i do almost everything standing at my freezer lol