I'd like someone to accurately tell me why
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killemsoftly
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Bublonichronic
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Why don't you tell us bill nye the qwiso guy
BWG707
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Had to laugh at that. No offense QK, but that was funny. I actually do find your professional data invaluable, keep it coming.
lio lacidem
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Explain further please.
Texas(THC)
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when I decarb or overheat I get goo...?
lio lacidem
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Im assuming qk knows somehow to do a no heat decarb?
lio lacidem
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Posted atsame time. So hows it done
Twitch
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QK that should be in your sig.
Twitch
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i think the heating is what makes it turn to goo, although i do not know of another way to decarb it, also QK if you did decarb it with out heat would it darken up or stay gold?
lio lacidem
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Am i close. Applying a strong base to decarb? Not sure what would work and be removed fully from product but thats my slightly educated guess
a senile fungus
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Can't you also decarb over time? As far as I know, heat and time can decarb
Bublonichronic
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Arrrrfargarbar I'm drink, spit it out already, wtf u gettin at brooio
Bublonichronic
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Fwiw everyone loves bill nye? I ment it as a compliment, I very much appreciate qks breakdowns of info..
Sirdabsalot462
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I'm assuming you mean me, when you say/repeat ” Remove the Carboxyl group.”
Which is not exactly what I've said...
I.e.
” Sir-dabs.. I'm making oil and I want shatter... like, hard shatter, I can't seem to get a rock hard finish”
Which is not exactly what I've said...
I.e.
” Sir-dabs.. I'm making oil and I want shatter... like, hard shatter, I can't seem to get a rock hard finish”
Sirdabsalot462
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Damn..hit the damn post button.....
I'm working my way to an answer QK...
Just to say..
These are my opinions based off experience + what I was taught by a Bio-chemist; Jump.
This is merely friendly banter.
I'm working my way to an answer QK...
Just to say..
These are my opinions based off experience + what I was taught by a Bio-chemist; Jump.
This is merely friendly banter.
Sirdabsalot462
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I.e. ” Sir-dabs.. I'm making oil and I want shatter... like, hard shatter, I can't seem to get a rock hard finish”
^ That is a paraphrased version of various pm's I receive, at least once, twice a month.
My” answer” only applies to the non-polar properties of a butane extraction.
Polar Solvents are a different ball-park
Is this what you are referring to?..when I say/repeat...
” With material being fresh and not cured, THCa is still in it's carboxyl group, producing a resin referred to as a Concrete
Again referring to the properties of butane extractions...
Older material, Particularly the Top buds of main colas that have been cured and aged perfectly for smoking.
In my experience..extracting oil from these buds always produces a more sappy, softer supple resin that is more susceptible to nucleation.
Commonly referred to as an
Oleoresin
In relation to polar solvents that same principle does not apply
With chilled Iso extractions, it produces hard brittle resin regardless of the carboxyl group and it's current state or age.
I've performed way over 200 or so butane extractions, and the theory of the carboxyl group seems to apply consistently.
Fresh material, always produces rock hard shatter.
Young material, can vary, from rock hard to a supple sap to auto-nucleation.
Old cured top buds that are in my Smoke Jars...
Always produces sap or nucleates rapidly.
I'm not a scientist nor a chemist, but I do take what others have taught me (including QK) very seriously and simply apply these teachings to my extractions.
Qk.
I don't remember brotha..
You've done a handful of butane extractions right?
In closing..
Polar solvents; that carboxyl group does not seem to matter.
Non polars, the carboxyl group plays a big role in the finally consistency.
^ That is a paraphrased version of various pm's I receive, at least once, twice a month.
My” answer” only applies to the non-polar properties of a butane extraction.
Polar Solvents are a different ball-park
Is this what you are referring to?..when I say/repeat...
” With material being fresh and not cured, THCa is still in it's carboxyl group, producing a resin referred to as a Concrete
Again referring to the properties of butane extractions...
Older material, Particularly the Top buds of main colas that have been cured and aged perfectly for smoking.
In my experience..extracting oil from these buds always produces a more sappy, softer supple resin that is more susceptible to nucleation.
Commonly referred to as an
Oleoresin
In relation to polar solvents that same principle does not apply
With chilled Iso extractions, it produces hard brittle resin regardless of the carboxyl group and it's current state or age.
I've performed way over 200 or so butane extractions, and the theory of the carboxyl group seems to apply consistently.
Fresh material, always produces rock hard shatter.
Young material, can vary, from rock hard to a supple sap to auto-nucleation.
Old cured top buds that are in my Smoke Jars...
Always produces sap or nucleates rapidly.
I'm not a scientist nor a chemist, but I do take what others have taught me (including QK) very seriously and simply apply these teachings to my extractions.
Qk.
I don't remember brotha..
You've done a handful of butane extractions right?
In closing..
Polar solvents; that carboxyl group does not seem to matter.
Non polars, the carboxyl group plays a big role in the finally consistency.
Blunter the kid
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I doubt removing the carboxyl group from THC itself would cause any difference in consistency, I imagine what really makes it turn goopy when u heat it is the waxes and pigments are gettig too hot and so they degrade, especially chlorophylls, which are known to turn your oil dark and goopy when heated to degradation... What was this thread even about, just a pissing contest?