If noone can help, I'm giving up this time, Plants that suddenly die with no reason

Goombatoker

Member
I'm attaching photos, and explaining the situation as best as I can, so bear with me.

Plants/GR
I have 6 plants (decent bagseed) growing under a 150W CFL 24/7, temperature is always 80 F, 2 computer fans (intake on one side, and outtake on the other side positioned to direct and circulate warmer/cooler airs) and a 3rd inside the GR blowing gently on the plants. My GR is dumb-ghetto, but I've built it from the ground up to ensure healthy and constant growth, and look Solid Snake (both good and hidden).

Watering
They are under strict watering with rainwater I caught, and it maintains itself at PH 6.5.

Growing Medium

Generic Potting soil I bought at my local flower shop (comes in airtight clear bag) and it works wonders.......until the plants suddenly die for no reason after they reach the exciting point of no return (you noobs like me know what I'm talking about, aint nothing more irritating than losing your best looking and biggest plant, only to start back again from a seedling that is growing nowhere near as fast)

Two 2-gallon planters with 8 drainage holes each

Nutes (Nutrients)
Aside from the nutes naturally found in rainwater (eliminating the possibility of chlorine contamination from tap) I have 2 plant food sticks on each side of each plant bout midway through the plant stems and planter sides. The sticks are made for vegetating plants, and I have a new pack of the same kind, but for flowering plants (if i ever get there)


Ok, here's some small back history, Whenever my plants enter their vegetative states, They always grow their 2nd, 3rd, or 4th set of leaves, then soon after they'll shrivel up and die. I keep losing my precious plants and I've lost about 6 already, and I'm just about to throw in the towel.

Not once have I ever seen nute burns, or signs of malnourishment in any of my current plants (i'm always reading up on the signs to look for), nor any of the ones I've lost. One day they just decide to droop, and then they keep drooping till the leaves start curling. They die looking just as beautiful as when they were growing.

One thing I have noticed though is that every time this happens, there's always one part of the stem that looks like it was squeezed with a vice-grip. What do i mean by this? I've illustrated on the last attached photo. the photo names tell you what you'll see in the photos:

Plants
num 1- 13 days old, my biggest most leaves, mysteriously drooped, now curling
num 2- 13 days old, still thriving, (for how long :-?)
num 3- 13 days old, mysteriously drooping
num 4- 12 days old, still thriving
num 5- 12 days old, kinda small
num 6- 12 days old, super small seedling, shriveling
squeezed stem- the picture accurately depicting the stems of all my fallen plants.

Last thing about all these plants, I flushed out and aerated the soil system 3 days ago

Please help, I seriously feel like throwing in the towel if these guys don't make it. Has anyone seen these shriveling stems? I've looked all over this forum, and several others for similar situations and I've found nothing

****Also, please refrain from telling me i shouldn't be putting more than one plant inside the planters. I have no space for the others, the roots are nowhere near each other (trust me before telling me and I go kill another one by accident), And whichever ones grow the fastest and the biggest will make the cut***
 

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blaze1camp

Well-Known Member
whats the strain...i would 1st only plant 1 plant per pot...go and get you some FFOF i have never had a seedling die...once above dirt im good i have had a few not come up but never die...make sure the stay watered(at least i do)...
 

Goombatoker

Member
whats the strain...i would 1st only plant 1 plant per pot...go and get you some FFOF i have never had a seedling die...once above dirt im good i have had a few not come up but never die...make sure the stay watered(at least i do)...
FFOF? Ma bad bro, I'm still a little new at this. As for the strain, Not sure, might just be regular Haze or something, but i cant tell till the leaves get bigger. They were some bagseed I got in brooklyn, NY

Also robert, imma take out the plant food sticks now.
 

Essex

Active Member
looks like what they call damping off on the stems, normaly a prob with mold/over watering. I would put gravel on the top of ya containers this fixed for me!
 

CLOSETGROWTH

Well-Known Member
I'm attaching photos, and explaining the situation as best as I can, so bear with me.

Plants/GR
I have 6 plants (decent bagseed) growing under a 150W CFL 24/7, temperature is always 80 F, 2 computer fans (intake on one side, and outtake on the other side positioned to direct and circulate warmer/cooler airs) and a 3rd inside the GR blowing gently on the plants. My GR is dumb-ghetto, but I've built it from the ground up to ensure healthy and constant growth, and look Solid Snake (both good and hidden).

Watering
They are under strict watering with rainwater I caught, and it maintains itself at PH 6.5.

Growing Medium
Generic Potting soil I bought at my local flower shop (comes in airtight clear bag) and it works wonders.......until the plants suddenly die for no reason after they reach the exciting point of no return (you noobs like me know what I'm talking about, aint nothing more irritating than losing your best looking and biggest plant, only to start back again from a seedling that is growing nowhere near as fast)

Two 2-gallon planters with 8 drainage holes each

Nutes (Nutrients)
Aside from the nutes naturally found in rainwater (eliminating the possibility of chlorine contamination from tap) I have 2 plant food sticks on each side of each plant bout midway through the plant stems and planter sides. The sticks are made for vegetating plants, and I have a new pack of the same kind, but for flowering plants (if i ever get there)


Ok, here's some small back history, Whenever my plants enter their vegetative states, They always grow their 2nd, 3rd, or 4th set of leaves, then soon after they'll shrivel up and die. I keep losing my precious plants and I've lost about 6 already, and I'm just about to throw in the towel.

Not once have I ever seen nute burns, or signs of malnourishment in any of my current plants (i'm always reading up on the signs to look for), nor any of the ones I've lost. One day they just decide to droop, and then they keep drooping till the leaves start curling. They die looking just as beautiful as when they were growing.

One thing I have noticed though is that every time this happens, there's always one part of the stem that looks like it was squeezed with a vice-grip. What do i mean by this? I've illustrated on the last attached photo. the photo names tell you what you'll see in the photos:

Plants
num 1- 13 days old, my biggest most leaves, mysteriously drooped, now curling
num 2- 13 days old, still thriving, (for how long :-?)
num 3- 13 days old, mysteriously drooping
num 4- 12 days old, still thriving
num 5- 12 days old, kinda small
num 6- 12 days old, super small seedling, shriveling
squeezed stem- the picture accurately depicting the stems of all my fallen plants.

Last thing about all these plants, I flushed out and aerated the soil system 3 days ago

Please help, I seriously feel like throwing in the towel if these guys don't make it. Has anyone seen these shriveling stems? I've looked all over this forum, and several others for similar situations and I've found nothing

****Also, please refrain from telling me i shouldn't be putting more than one plant inside the planters. I have no space for the others, the roots are nowhere near each other (trust me before telling me and I go kill another one by accident), And whichever ones grow the fastest and the biggest will make the cut***
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Goombatoker

Member
Damn damping off disease............I read the first few paragraphs and that's exactly what it sounded like. Damn, you guys rock.
Imma go get myself some gravel and some of that jack's stuff.


Thanks again bros, stay high, i know im about to get to hehe
 

Goombatoker

Member
you guys think asphalt pebbles will work? I found a bunch of these asphalt pebbles and they are about the same size as gravel. Is there anything harmful about them i should know? I'm about ready to bring my pretties back to life
 

desertrat

Well-Known Member
going forward - is your light 150 equivalent watts or actual? best bet is its 42 watt actual/150 equivalent watts and that is not near enough light for your plants once they pass the seedling stage. you're going to want 75 actual watts per plant for a decent yield.
 

Antigen

Well-Known Member
you guys think asphalt pebbles will work? I found a bunch of these asphalt pebbles and they are about the same size as gravel. Is there anything harmful about them i should know? I'm about ready to bring my pretties back to life
Did you find these like outside on the ground or at a store? A good policy is don't put crap that is lying around outside on your plants. :)
You might get spider mites, it could upset the pH of your soil, there could be gasoline, oil, or various other things on it that you don't want to water down into your plants.
 

Goombatoker

Member
Did you find these like outside on the ground or at a store? A good policy is don't put crap that is lying around outside on your plants. :)
You might get spider mites, it could upset the pH of your soil, there could be gasoline, oil, or various other things on it that you don't want to water down into your plants.
I kinda figured as much (i found em on the ground) so i was gonna run them through some boiling water after my mom left for work.

Although it might not really be necessary, these rocks were found as (what im guessing) what never cured as part of the new asphalt that was just pressed. So all around the pressed area were these fresh black asphalt rocks

You guys think i should boil em anyway?
 
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