If Tax cuts create jobs

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NoDrama

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ChesusRice said:
  1. A New Tax Credit for Hiring Unemployed Workers
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Hire unemployed people, work them for 7 months and then lay those people off and then hire another unemployed worker the next week. Government (taxpayers) will pay 75% of your cost to employ someone. It's all tax deductible too, you will basically get employees to work for you at no cost. This is how all of you tax payers pay for my farm help when it comes to planting and harvesting. Initially the money comes out of my pocket, but after the tax year is done I get the deductions, as long as you do the paperwork correctly it is a great deal.

Money for nuthin and your chicks for free.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Rob Roy said:
How valid are "agreements" that are unilateral and made under duress and the threat of force? My philosophy is based on consensual interactions. Yours appears to be based on supporting involuntary interactions. That's the same philosophy imposed by rapists.
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who has ever been forced to sign a W4 under threat of force? name one time this has happened or just shut the fuck up with your fail philosophy already.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Rob Roy said:
Okay what happens if a person starts a business and decides they will not play the government game, and not seek permission, fills out no bureaucratic paperwork etc. Will they be left alone or will they be forced to cease ?

As far as your pity me comment. I'm not looking for pity, you're the guy claiming a 3.5" penis remember ?
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and proud i am of that monster penis of mine.

no one ever forces anyone to start a business. if you start a business, you give your consent. try again.
 
MellowFarmer

MellowFarmer

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Zaehet Strife said:
If you watchd that 4 minute educational film about how our monetary/fiat money systems work... and are intelligent enough to understand it, watch this next. lol


[video=youtube;NOzR3UAyXao]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOzR3UAyXao&feature=related[/video]
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I know I know Zaehet they won't awaken till they do no matter how many damned times I repost but :wall:

Attention all RIU members! If you live in the commonly referred to as The United States of America you are probably going to find this of interest and very valuable knowledge. Right up there with don't harvest your girlz to early ever ok?

THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOES NOT OWN THE FEDERAL RESERVE. IT IS PRIVATELY OWNED. HONEST. ASK THEM.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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UncleBuck said:
who has ever been forced to sign a W4 under threat of force? name one time this has happened or just shut the fuck up with your fail philosophy already.
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As far as your shut the fuck up. No.

As far as your who has ever been forced....connect the dots. All government interactions ultimately imply or indicate force, some people chose to wear blinders. In your case I think a red tipped cane applies as well.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Rob Roy said:
As far as your shut the fuck up. No.

As far as your who has ever been forced....connect the dots. All government interactions ultimately imply or indicate force, some people chose to wear blinders. In your case I think a red tipped cane applies as well.
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connect the dots? who is he? where does he live? what was the chain of events that led to him being forced against his will to sign a W4?

you FAIL.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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UncleBuck said:
and proud i am of that monster penis of mine.

no one ever forces anyone to start a business. if you start a business, you give your consent. try again.
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Funny I know lots of people that have businesses and never consented. Consent, it is not something others can give on your behalf is it? I mean for consent to BE consent, you must provide yours and I must provide mine right?
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Rob Roy said:
Are you claiming the tax system is voluntary ?
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yep. no one is ever forced to start a business or sign a W4. these are all things you must voluntarily choose to do.

unless, of course, you can finally name me these mythical people who were forced to sign W4s and start businesses.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Rob Roy said:
Funny I know lots of people that have businesses and never consented. Consent, it is not something others can give on your behalf is it? I mean for consent to BE consent, you must provide yours and I must provide mine right?
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so someone quite literally put a gun to their heads and forced them to start businesses? that's not right. if you tell me who these people are, i will go out into the streets on this 100 degree day in portland and protest the injustice of people being forced to start businesses.

that's not fair.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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UncleBuck said:
so someone quite literally put a gun to their heads and forced them to start businesses? that's not right. if you tell me who these people are, i will go out into the streets on this 100 degree day in portland and protest the injustice of people being forced to start businesses.

that's not fair.
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Your two dimensional thought is showing. Nobody forced them to start a business? Okay. But that's beside the point. What happens after they started a business?....did somebody force them to cough up money or threaten to harm them?
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Rob Roy said:
Your two dimensional thought is showing. Nobody forced them to start a business? Okay. But that's beside the point. What happens after they started a business?....did somebody force them to cough up money or threaten to harm them?
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so you concede that no one forced them to start the business, thus you concede that they voluntarily chose to do something that subjects them to taxation.

you FAIL.
 
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ChesusRice

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Rob Roy said:
Your two dimensional thought is showing. Nobody forced them to start a business? Okay. But that's beside the point. What happens after they started a business?....did somebody force them to cough up money or threaten to harm them?
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Maybe you have a chemical imbalance
Or maybe
You just want to live in a society and not help support it
Freeload much?
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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UncleBuck said:
so you concede that no one forced them to start the business, thus you concede that they voluntarily chose to do something that subjects them to taxation.

you FAIL.
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If the "option" of having a business insists that there will be taxes involved, like it or not...how does that imply voluntarily agreeing to the tax? When a person is "subjected to" something as you state, they are hardly agreeing.

If taxes are voluntary, why is there an "or else" if a person doesn't pay them?
 
canndo

canndo

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Rob Roy said:
If the "option" of having a business insists that there will be taxes involved, like it or not...how does that imply voluntarily agreeing to the tax? When a person is "subjected to" something as you state, they are hardly agreeing.

If taxes are voluntary, why is there an "or else" if a person doesn't pay them?
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What are you talking about Rob? there are negative portions of every transaction, there are bad things that come with every action, why are you expecting things to be different than that? Cause they never will be. Every hot dog you eat comes with a bit of heart attack, every breath you take comes with the understanding that it is one less you will ever take.


Life is like that.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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ChesusRice said:
Maybe you have a chemical imbalance
Or maybe
You just want to live in a society and not help support it
Freeload much?
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Supporting consensual interactions and being responsible for ones actions, leaving others to live their life, things like that I endorse.

However I don't support the drug war, I don't understand why you do. Nor do I support free loading or redistributing other people's money in a forceful way.

Although I would consider voluntarily donating to a penis extension for your buddy Uncle Buck. Perhaps you could recommend a good surgeon?
 
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ChesusRice

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Rob Roy said:
Supporting consensual interactions and being responsible for ones actions, leaving others to live their life, things like that I endorse.

However I don't support the drug war, I don't understand why you do. Nor do I support free loading or redistributing other people's money in a forceful way.

Although I would consider voluntarily donating to a penis extension for your buddy Uncle Buck. Perhaps you could recommend a good surgeon?
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YA OK
Grow up
 
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