MR. MAGNUM
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Yeah, decriminalization is the way to go
if we legalize it, i'll need a job
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bleezyg420
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we have it right were we want it. Legal for some to grow, but still illegal. Its a money making industry. Thank prop 215 muahh!
ultimate procrastinator
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I think I'd be happy if it were legalized. No longer would drug tests discriminate against pot users. Those who need to take polygraphs as a screening process and have smoked pot for years would not be disqualified. I'd feel more like an abiding citizen. The only reason I smoke pot is because I feel the law is unjust and needs to be changed. Admitting that I wish the law to stay the same would mean I would rather break the law than not.
ThatFuckinKills
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what the fuck is ontrapanuar? HAHA
Bookworm
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entrepreneur. someone who starts their own business.
Gryphonn
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actual infield study:
legalized pot is worthless.
once it's legal, or even medical the money is gone. those who can grow will and it will be more than any of us will ever need. we all now how fun pot is to grow. imagine what you would do if you were allowed to do it with no worries. you would have enough for you AND all your friends. then what? i have so much i give it away. there is NO money in legalized marijuana.
i have some of the best outdoor in northern cali, so i've been told. but so does everyone else. i will be going to the club everyday now to try to dump a couple of these. the haven't talked to any vendors in over a week. hopefully by tomorrow they will. the clubs are selling grow supplies now. it looks like the are trying to supplement the income because med sales have been down. everyone grows their own now.
i got soooooooooooooooooooooo much pot. to go back 20 years ago with it, ......................
FDD! A man of your integrity and growing reputation should realise that cottage industries are money earners.
Sure, a lot of people will take up growing their own. However, there will also be a lot of busy business types out there that either don't have the time, or don't have the energy to look after their own plot.
Now, a gentlemen with some of the best outdoor in Nth Cali could set up a shingle with
Dr FDD's Medicinal Buds and Potions
You could offer your special amber balls, special blend hashish blocks, and a number of boutique bud varieties that target specific ailments or needs.
Quality bud at an affordable price for the busy professional.
If I were a philanthropic type with wads of cash I'd pop over and throw some start-up money your way. But I'm not, so don't expect a knock on the door any time soon...
As we say in Australia, "You'll be right mate!"
Quality bud at an affordable price for the busy professional.
If I were a philanthropic type with wads of cash I'd pop over and throw some start-up money your way. But I'm not, so don't expect a knock on the door any time soon...
As we say in Australia, "You'll be right mate!"
Twistyman
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i would have to get a job as a "consultant".
Your grow ability still makes you expert to the maximum level..become a pot Budda..and charge people to rub your belly...........
Gryphonn
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Yeah, but I reckon you could still make a living selling organic, well pedigreed weed. Better yet, run small growers workshops. Sure you can read about it here, but wouldn't you like to learn hands on? Weren't you teaching at the college FDD?
i had to hold off on teaching until after harvest. i'm now waiting to hear back from them.
No, If it were decrimanalized it should be done with small growers licences. Sence you know Hemp would be getting grown outdoors anyway. Grows in Greenhouses and indoors of "Medicinal" cannibus would be great. Charge me 100 200 maybe 300 bucks I'll pay it to know I will not be sent to jail for doin' somthing I enjoy and reaping the rewards therof. If Big Agro-buisness got into the trade I would not be killing my males anymore. I would transplant them into their feilds just to fuck with them. Keep it smallish.
Look what has been created sence the 60s new strains new buzzes its like having a national Cannibus production program and you people are at the forfront of it. Its exiteing to think of what has been accompleshed here and around the world and it ain't stopin' anytime soon. You all should be proud, as I will be, when I get my grow lights and room going. To know you were part of this noble profession, you bring lauphter into the world happyness, good times and merth. Its a shame that it gets treated like Heroin or Meth with pushers dealing on street corners when it should be enjoyed in coffee shopes and other places where people gather to be with there friends and relax. I see you all as vintners (guys who make wine right?) nobody questions there morals. They've owned there winerys for centurys some of them and take pride in that, we should to.
I looked at the Statistics for cannibus in this country did you know it is the biggest cash crop in the country!! I could not believe that wow more than corn and wheat combined. Not I guess in quantity but in price.
If buisness is bad then I think Cannibus clubs should get together form a PAC and lobby to decrimanalize After decriminalization Buisness will pick up (only half kidding here). Hell maybe they can see about a bailout from the treasury dept. LOL.
Look what has been created sence the 60s new strains new buzzes its like having a national Cannibus production program and you people are at the forfront of it. Its exiteing to think of what has been accompleshed here and around the world and it ain't stopin' anytime soon. You all should be proud, as I will be, when I get my grow lights and room going. To know you were part of this noble profession, you bring lauphter into the world happyness, good times and merth. Its a shame that it gets treated like Heroin or Meth with pushers dealing on street corners when it should be enjoyed in coffee shopes and other places where people gather to be with there friends and relax. I see you all as vintners (guys who make wine right?) nobody questions there morals. They've owned there winerys for centurys some of them and take pride in that, we should to.
I looked at the Statistics for cannibus in this country did you know it is the biggest cash crop in the country!! I could not believe that wow more than corn and wheat combined. Not I guess in quantity but in price.
If buisness is bad then I think Cannibus clubs should get together form a PAC and lobby to decrimanalize
After decriminalization Buisness will pick up (only half kidding here). Hell maybe they can see about a bailout from the treasury dept. LOL.
bigtittymilf
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yeah but not m,aking as much money with it is worth it to not do a mandatory 5 years behind a grow charge 5 years isnt worth any amount of money to me
dacheefmiester
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bring some to the valley. i got ahold of some of ur hi jack i havent been that stoned since i started blazin, itd sell like crack in the valley!
Louis541
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mane2008
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lol it's cool shows the biasness in RIU members
Bangers999
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Depends where you are man, they will never make it legal in the uk its all about votes and always will be, very good people who do good shit in the uk are hard to come by, its a closed shop you need to be in the know with the man, and the way the busts are going down on a daily basis demand is higher than the weed will get you, if i was sitting with 50/60oz the now i could sell the lot and the person would want more within a day, not enough going around you never have enough.
Gryphonn
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Ph03nix and I spend a lot of time discussing the threads we read here. That's the advantage of having a partner that you can talk with, it keeps your brain active...
Here is a hypothetical that formed while we were talking about all the posts here so far, with a focus on the small grower:
The scenario is that cannabis is fully legalised for medicinal use according to its use. For example, lower potency would be sold the same as Panadol. Higher strengths such as used to deal with pain, depression etc, would also be available over the counter. It would also be legal for personal recreational use much the same as alcohol. IOW, if you are over 18, you can walk into a drug store/chemist, clinic, co-op or bottle shop and buy your pot without need for a card or any other 'permit'.
Growers such as FDD can become licenced as a commercial grower, or can become licenced to grow for personal use (unlike tobacco where the laws [I think] still prohibit growing and processing in your back yard).
The commercial licence allows the grower to sell to either Government licenced co-ops, commercial processors who market pre-packaged, strength specific medicinal strains for chemists/drugstores, or to distributors for sale through liquor stores and clubs etc.
Commercial growers can grow as much pot as they want (supply and demand will control this), but must grow specific strains of specific strengths. Growers who produce superior crops with known, stable potency (read FDD) will command premium prices from buyers in the pharmaceutical sector. Growers of lower quality weed will sell to the recreational market where limits will be placed on the potency of the pot that can be sold, much the same as alcohol and tobacco. A further option for commercial growers will be to open their own 'boutique' outlet (like ilkhan's vintners) and sell their best quality products to the general public in the same way as a winery. This would be covered under a special licence.
The personal use licence will allow people to have thirty seedlings (up to budding stage) and five mature plants (in full bud) per season. It will be illegal to trade, sell or otherwise profit from these plants. You can share your harvested bud with friends, the same as home brewed beer, but not sell it. If you get busted breaking the rules, you lose your licence FOREVER and cop big fines. You will then have to buy your weed the same as anyone else. THERE WILL BE NO JAIL TERMS FOR THESE OFFENCES. However, the fines will be steep and you will forever lose the opportunity to have a growers licence.
Much the same as home brew, there will be some who grow as a hobby and to save money. Others will go big like Budweiser or Fosters and grow acres and acres of mids for the recreational market. Others will concentrate on the medicinal trade, while others will be happy to run their own outlet.
With full legalisation come taxes of course. We're not economists, so we couldn't think of what sort of a rate. Probably based on a potency and quantity rate. That way small high potency boutique growers wouldn't be paying higher taxes in comparison to large scale commercial mid-strength enterprises. Higher potency crops would attract higher taxes. However, if the grower was producing small amounts (coffee shop amounts), it would be reasonable. This would deter large scale high potency crops other than for the high end medicinal market. Government concessions would be available to medicinal patients to offset the tax component.
...I'll continue this later because we are really late and have to go out very soon else we'll miss the bus... (sorry for 'jacking the thread FDD)...
we've still got to think about prices, say between $100 and $300 an ounce retail including taxes etc. depending on potency. Top end boutique pot could even sell for more than it is today. Consider the value of a fine bottle of single malt scotch or a barrel proof bottle of Wild Turkey. Think of the price of some fine wines.
Anyway, the point is... imagine yourself going to a big flashy cocktail party and discussing your job with some old lady dripping in diamonds:
"So, Mr Fdd, what do you do for a living?"
"Well, I grow top grade medicinal canabis for Canafine (a fictional pharmaceutical company)".
"Oh, how lovely. I know your products well. I'm completely off Valium now. And is that going well for you, dear?"
"Well yes. I have 100 000 acres of the finest quality bud, almost ready to harvest, and I just bought a small plot to plant out with a little experiment of my own. It seems that this new pot we're growing can completely eliminate any type of cancer cell known. Oh, I'll have to show you my new yacht. We took delivery last week... *blah, blah, blah*
That'd be a pretty cool job, I think.
Here is a hypothetical that formed while we were talking about all the posts here so far, with a focus on the small grower:
The scenario is that cannabis is fully legalised for medicinal use according to its use. For example, lower potency would be sold the same as Panadol. Higher strengths such as used to deal with pain, depression etc, would also be available over the counter. It would also be legal for personal recreational use much the same as alcohol. IOW, if you are over 18, you can walk into a drug store/chemist, clinic, co-op or bottle shop and buy your pot without need for a card or any other 'permit'.
Growers such as FDD can become licenced as a commercial grower, or can become licenced to grow for personal use (unlike tobacco where the laws [I think] still prohibit growing and processing in your back yard).
The commercial licence allows the grower to sell to either Government licenced co-ops, commercial processors who market pre-packaged, strength specific medicinal strains for chemists/drugstores, or to distributors for sale through liquor stores and clubs etc.
Commercial growers can grow as much pot as they want (supply and demand will control this), but must grow specific strains of specific strengths. Growers who produce superior crops with known, stable potency (read FDD) will command premium prices from buyers in the pharmaceutical sector. Growers of lower quality weed will sell to the recreational market where limits will be placed on the potency of the pot that can be sold, much the same as alcohol and tobacco. A further option for commercial growers will be to open their own 'boutique' outlet (like ilkhan's vintners) and sell their best quality products to the general public in the same way as a winery. This would be covered under a special licence.
The personal use licence will allow people to have thirty seedlings (up to budding stage) and five mature plants (in full bud) per season. It will be illegal to trade, sell or otherwise profit from these plants. You can share your harvested bud with friends, the same as home brewed beer, but not sell it. If you get busted breaking the rules, you lose your licence FOREVER and cop big fines. You will then have to buy your weed the same as anyone else. THERE WILL BE NO JAIL TERMS FOR THESE OFFENCES. However, the fines will be steep and you will forever lose the opportunity to have a growers licence.
Much the same as home brew, there will be some who grow as a hobby and to save money. Others will go big like Budweiser or Fosters and grow acres and acres of mids for the recreational market. Others will concentrate on the medicinal trade, while others will be happy to run their own outlet.
With full legalisation come taxes of course. We're not economists, so we couldn't think of what sort of a rate. Probably based on a potency and quantity rate. That way small high potency boutique growers wouldn't be paying higher taxes in comparison to large scale commercial mid-strength enterprises. Higher potency crops would attract higher taxes. However, if the grower was producing small amounts (coffee shop amounts), it would be reasonable. This would deter large scale high potency crops other than for the high end medicinal market. Government concessions would be available to medicinal patients to offset the tax component.
...I'll continue this later because we are really late and have to go out very soon else we'll miss the bus... (sorry for 'jacking the thread FDD)...
we've still got to think about prices, say between $100 and $300 an ounce retail including taxes etc. depending on potency. Top end boutique pot could even sell for more than it is today. Consider the value of a fine bottle of single malt scotch or a barrel proof bottle of Wild Turkey. Think of the price of some fine wines.
Anyway, the point is... imagine yourself going to a big flashy cocktail party and discussing your job with some old lady dripping in diamonds:
"So, Mr Fdd, what do you do for a living?"
"Well, I grow top grade medicinal canabis for Canafine (a fictional pharmaceutical company)".
"Oh, how lovely. I know your products well. I'm completely off Valium now. And is that going well for you, dear?"
"Well yes. I have 100 000 acres of the finest quality bud, almost ready to harvest, and I just bought a small plot to plant out with a little experiment of my own. It seems that this new pot we're growing can completely eliminate any type of cancer cell known. Oh, I'll have to show you my new yacht. We took delivery last week... *blah, blah, blah*
That'd be a pretty cool job, I think.
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