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FranJan said:

Find a man named Chronikool. He'll give you lots of ideas. His thread is around here somewhere and it's great for stealthy ideas with LEDs and limited space. Good Luck!

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cheers, i will check it out

anyone seen or gotten a hold of new lights from Blackstar? this new series is supposed to be much like the chrome series lights but with 8w leds between the grow spot clusters...

The Eshine 11 band and the Advanced 11 band are not the same. I own 2 Advanced DS200s (185 watts each) and 3 50x3 Eshines (85 watts each) and the difference in spectrums is obvious despite what Eshine claims. Both brands work great (rock hard 'n frosty), although not the most efficient when compared to the Hans.

$146.63 each for the Eshines delivered to the US and $505.00 each for the DS200s delivered.

ellydee said:

The Eshine 11 band and the Advanced 11 band are not the same. I own 2 Advanced DS200s (185 watts each) and 3 50x3 Eshines (85 watts each) and the difference in spectrums is obvious despite what Eshine claims. Both brands work great (rock hard 'n frosty), although not the most efficient when compared to the Hans.

$146.63 each for the Eshines delivered to the US and $505.00 each for the DS200s delivered.

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Thanks, allydee!

Tba did they give you any pricing on evergrow? I guess the site I found is a mirror site or something. I emailed both and haven't heard back.

hyroot said:

Tba did they give you any pricing on evergrow? I guess the site I found is a mirror site or something. I emailed both and haven't heard back.

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Yes. They said it will be 210$ including shipment to the US. Thats the email of the sells woman i was corrosponding with:
sales11@evergrowlighting.com
Her name is Teresa and she answered my questions very quickly.


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tba said:

I just got an email from them. They'r willing to sell one unite

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That sounds reasonable, I don't think these people can resist the temptation to sell their lamps to end growers directly. I always wonder why they are dealing the business in this way:
When their resellers and distributors are investing thousands of dollars and loading hundreds of lamps in stocks, promoting the lamps on the market, these chinese suppliers are aggresively to solicit the end users to buy a lamp from their factories directly. Further more, they even tell you:'We are producing lamps for xxx, so our quality is good, and you can buy the same lamp from us and save half cost.'
Oh, damn, is this a good way to do business?

Finally received an email back.

From evergrow lighting

Thanks for your enquiry about our products, this is Evergrow, manufactory of LED grow lights with 5 years experiences.

The details for your enquiry as below:
1). The LEDs is BridgeLux and Epistar, 3w leds.
2). We have both single lens and integrated lens for choices, now mostly use integrated lens more. 60 90 120 degree all. available,while 90 degree mostly.
3). The amps is 550ma, and AC85~265V for input voltage.
4). Fans have 2 types, 0.1A and 0.25A; aluminum finned heat sink.
5). We customize the full spectrum as request, from 400nm~730nm available.
6).We accept the Paypay payment for samples.

May we kindly know what's your company name and website, also the products details? I will send you the prices for your reference soon

So they still haven't sent you the exact price yet, cuase they are still not sure of your identity, if you tell them you have a website and would resell their lamps, would they offer a better price?

I don't know probably. I don t do web design so.....

Talked to them too this was the reply,
"Thanks so much for your enquiry about our products.This is Teresa from Evergrow, the manufactory of LED grow lights with 5 years experiences.
EG100, 2pcs to Canada, including shipping fees, total US$320.
EG55*3W, 2pcs to Canada, including shipping fees, total US$352.

EG100 leds:50pcsx3w
Actual Output:100w
Volatge: AC85-265V
Products size:460x120x70mm

EG55*3W LEDs:55x3W
Actual output:120w
Votage: AC85-265V
Products size:400x212x60mm

They both can have the spectrum for vegetables and flowers circle, each light has two switches,
We can set more blue LEDs in one swith for vegatables, and another swith for more red LEDs, good for flowers.



Please kindly advise your opinions, and requirements for the LEDs ratio, thanks a lot.
I look forward to your earlier reply."

Def seems like the best deal so far. Now I just got to pick which ones are better shape for my room and the best spectrum

The grammar and plain bad english always cracks me up with the foreign companies

how much LED to replace a 600w HPS flower room that is 4x4 ft and still get an ounce per plant? room has diamond mylar around it and grows 16 girls in soil all indicas, also how much to replace 3x3 cfl veg room?

IndoorKush said:

how much LED to replace a 600w HPS flower room that is 4x4 ft and still get an ounce per plant? room has diamond mylar around it and grows 16 girls in soil all indicas, also how much to replace 3x3 cfl veg room?

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Area 51 A-600; http://area51lighting.com/specials.html for flower.

For veg, 4 of these in a 3'x3' will fatten them up real good; (find them on Ebay for around $100.00) http://www.gothamhydroponics.com/grow-lights/gotham-hydro-led-grow-lights/lighthouse-hydro-90w-led-grow-light-ho.html

hey everyone, im looking to do a led grow in another room at my site. money no issue really, but i want to buy quality products that will produce . i have some led already, mostly ufos off ebay. and one blackstar that works great. but i know there is more improved leds out there.

grow space could be 4x8 or any size really . just looking to find the best of the best leds on the market today..

please tell me why you choose the companies.

looking for leds to replace 1000 watt hps lights basically

I'm looking to get a 90w ufo led light and a 32w led grow panel is this good to grow 2 plants?

Big fan of white leds.

For those who can't afford the >$800 for a quality light like A 51 in the US, or Astir Grows in EU, AND, especially if you are growing for personal use and have say ~ 2 x 4 or 4 x 4 grow area consider The Next Rage: White LED Tubes.

3 days ago, I bought 2 x 2 bulb 4ft shop lights ($30) + 4 iBright HO LED tubes ($140) to supplement my household LED globes in a vanity fixture. Within 48 hours, pistils started popping everywhere. An 8 bulb set up will be amazing. I'm waiting to hear back on how the led fixture is wired before ordering a 4 bulb

Drop in to see it in action

with leds i know they can grow a plant but which ones can pack on the dense bud also?

guest34 said:

hey everyone, im looking to do a led grow in another room at my site. money no issue really, but i want to buy quality products that will produce . just looking to find the best of the best leds on the market today..

please tell me why you choose the companies.

looking for leds to replace 1000 watt hps lights basically

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You want Cree, Philips or Oslon LEDs. Anyone who won't tell you what chips they are using is most likely trying to con you into buying an inferior product. The other lies that con artist manufacturers try to tell is to give the wattage of the panel in theoretical watts (the maximum that the LEDs are capable of producing) instead of telling you what the actual wattage is on the panel they are selling and they'll tell you that the coverage is much larger than it actually is. Take the physical size of the fixture and add 4 - 12 inches to the width and length of the fixture and you've got the approximate size of the area that the fixture will flower. Anyone that tries to tell you that some foot square fixture will grow flowers for over over a 9 ft2 area is lying. It will NOT. A foot square fixture will grow (flower not veg which is MUCH easier) at most about a 2 x 2 ft area no matter how many watts it is...unless you put it on a mover. A light mover is a wonderful thing and can leverage some high watt panels into providing good growth over a larger area.

Area51lighting tells you pretty straight up what they have and what it will do. So does Hans - bonsaihero.com - but his panels are most often used in smaller grows...but multiple panels is the way to go so you get even light coverage so Hans' is definitely possible.

Quality LEDs means that the power you are paying for is going into light (on spectrum) and not heat. Cheap LEDs produce far less light and therefore the rest of the energy is dissipated into heat...what most of us don't want.

That's why AT's new unit is 3x3 in actual unit size...covers a 4x4.