I'm a REBEL! I grow weed!

Wilksey said:

How about we just ban political parties and make people stand on THEIR own merit instead?

Hell, Carter, Clinton, Obama, ALL could have used their "super" democrat powers to decriminalize the ganja, but they didn't. California is among, if not THE, most pro-democrat party state in the nation and have had ample opportunities to decriminalize the ganja, but they didn't. And on the other hand, the republicans could have used their "super" republican powers to completely crush the entire medical movement, but they didn't.

The issue of cannabis, and how BOTH parties have treated it, is one of MANY issues that prove beyond a reasonable doubt EXACTLY how full of shit EACH party truly is, which means they should be abandoned by any citizen with integrity and even an iota of reason.

History has shown time and again the folly and downright EVIL of any given "party" system, and we are no better than any other bunch of assholes...

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Now that's what I am saying as well. We need political reform and to modernize the system. 2 thumbs up bro. And we need ordinary people to stop cheerleading for parties an start considering the facts and not what you read in media. THX.

WHODAT@THADOR said:

You are so full of shit your gonna start using hoffa as an example of corrupt unions? come the fuck on the unions are the workers and they did build it all ...Get me some proof of your statement and maybe I'll consider something different the only thing I just heard was blah blah blah I dont kno a fucking thing I'm talking about

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funny you should mention Hoffa.

sure, jimmy hoffa was a corrupt son of a bitch, and sure, the teamsters became an arm of la cosa nostra under his rule, but AFTER hoffa got his concrete galloshes was when the real corruption started in the teamsters.

in 1991 the teamsters had their FIRST EVER (no shit) direct election of the president, and the reformer Ron Carey won. he started booting out the mobbed up goons, dismantling the sinecures that the gangsters had so painstakingly constructed, and set about turning the teamsters into an actual labour union again, rather than a protection racket.

unfortunately, Ron Carey was removed from his position by the feds due to a RICO investigation that proved he was involved with an even more sinister organization than the mafia, The Democrat National Committee!

yes thats right, the democrats were deemed to be a corrupt organization that was threatening to destroy the teamster's integrity as a union, so of course, who they gonna pick to replace Ron Carey?

Jimmy Hoffa Jr.

see i WAS gonna talk about the UAW, and their corruption, but you had to trot out hoffa, trying to be InB4, too bad you had no idea how deep the teamster's corruption goes, or that the federal courts determined that the DNC was more dangerous than the mob.

unions are corrupt, every goddamned one of them.

they start as a voice for the workers, then they become just another mobbed up racket, extorting the workers and lining the pockets of hucksters and mob bosses

i double dog dare you to claim otherwise.

Dr Kynes said:

funny you should mention Hoffa.

sure, jimmy hoffa was a corrupt son of a bitch, and sure, the teamsters became an arm of la cosa nostra under his rule, but AFTER hoffa got his concrete galloshes was when the real corruption started in the teamsters.

in 1991 the teamsters had their FIRST EVER (no shit) direct election of the president, and the reformer Ron Carey won. he started booting out the mobbed up goons, dismantling the sinecures that the gangsters had so painstakingly constructed, and set about turning the teamsters into an actual labour union again, rather than a protection racket.

unfortunately, Ron Carey was removed from his position by the feds due to a RICO investigation that proved he was involved with an even more sinister organization than the mafia, The Democrat National Committee!

yes thats right, the democrats were deemed to be a corrupt organization that was threatening to destroy the teamster's integrity as a union, so of course, who they gonna pick to replace Ron Carey?

Jimmy Hoffa Jr.

see i WAS gonna talk about the UAW, and their corruption, but you had to trot out hoffa, trying to be InB4, too bad you had no idea how deep the teamster's corruption goes, or that the federal courts determined that the DNC was more dangerous than the mob.

unions are corrupt, every goddamned one of them.

they start as a voice for the workers, then they become just another mobbed up racket, extorting the workers and lining the pockets of hucksters and mob bosses

i double dog dare you to claim otherwise.

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LOL dude. Say what you gotta say! Good stuff even if I don't completely agree with you.

GrowUrOwnDank said:

LOL dude. Say what you gotta say! Good stuff even if I don't completely agree with you.

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you dont gotta agree, i dont completely agree with anybody.

the real deal is, some people make arguments for or against something, and some dinks like "whodat" just throw turds at the wall and hope one sticks.

my argument: Unions are mobbed up rackets run by criminals and hucksters, every last one of em.

"whotdat's" response: demonstrate how unions damage the macro-economy in the long term

the fux with that retardation?

rapists, murderers, serial killers, burglars and rap musicians dont effect the macro-economy in the long term either, that doesnt mean they arent shiftless criminals who prey on society

Damn, Kynes. You beat a bitch!

desert dude said:

Damn, Kynes. You beat a bitch!

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wait till i get going!

Dr Kynes said:

wait till i get going!

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I know. I often marvel at the sheer volume, and eloquence.

Dr Kynes said:

funny you should mention Hoffa.

sure, jimmy hoffa was a corrupt son of a bitch, and sure, the teamsters became an arm of la cosa nostra under his rule, but AFTER hoffa got his concrete galloshes was when the real corruption started in the teamsters.

in 1991 the teamsters had their FIRST EVER (no shit) direct election of the president, and the reformer Ron Carey won. he started booting out the mobbed up goons, dismantling the sinecures that the gangsters had so painstakingly constructed, and set about turning the teamsters into an actual labour union again, rather than a protection racket.

unfortunately, Ron Carey was removed from his position by the feds due to a RICO investigation that proved he was involved with an even more sinister organization than the mafia, The Democrat National Committee!

yes thats right, the democrats were deemed to be a corrupt organization that was threatening to destroy the teamster's integrity as a union, so of course, who they gonna pick to replace Ron Carey?

Jimmy Hoffa Jr.

see i WAS gonna talk about the UAW, and their corruption, but you had to trot out hoffa, trying to be InB4, too bad you had no idea how deep the teamster's corruption goes, or that the federal courts determined that the DNC was more dangerous than the mob.

unions are corrupt, every goddamned one of them.

they start as a voice for the workers, then they become just another mobbed up racket, extorting the workers and lining the pockets of hucksters and mob bosses

i double dog dare you to claim otherwise.

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Sure I'll take your double dog dare...If the DNC is to be considered this dangerous then the Republican party is nothing short of a small communist nation. Im not saying either is right just like your assumptions that the unions get rich off of who again? The members who pay due's? the same members who vote from w/in as it "SHOULD BE" to put officer's in place to represent there wants? Sure, I will give that some step out of bound's absolutely like maddaloni in 05'.....But the unions barely represent 12% of the workforce anymore man. Should be more like 75% IMO.... Why? Ask your local republican whose pocket its lining.... the public has been brainwashed w/ so much of the trash you just spit out they think it must be so? As for corruption nah...They are not not every one them "The measure of a man is in what he does with power"-Plato...Individuals get greedy not the organization. Mob's have had more interest's in running wallstreet then the unions.

Dr Kynes said:

you dont gotta agree, i dont completely agree with anybody.

the real deal is, some people make arguments for or against something, and some dinks like "whodat" just throw turds at the wall and hope one sticks.

my argument: Unions are mobbed up rackets run by criminals and hucksters, every last one of em.

"whotdat's" response: demonstrate how unions damage the macro-economy in the long term

the fux with that retardation?

rapists, murderers, serial killers, burglars and rap musicians dont effect the macro-economy in the long term either, that doesnt mean they arent shiftless criminals who prey on society

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Dr Kynes said:

the fux with that retardation?

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That your childish insults drown out anything intelligent you might have said. It's FLUX not Fux you plick!

First the insults fly, then the cartoons, then Green Bay throws away a championship.

WHODAT@THADOR said:

Sure I'll take your double dog dare...If the DNC is to be considered this dangerous then the Republican party is nothing short of a small communist nation. Im not saying either is right just like your assumptions that the unions get rich off of who again? The members who pay due's? the same members who vote from w/in as it "SHOULD BE" to put officer's in place to represent there wants? Sure, I will give that some step out of bound's absolutely like maddaloni in 05'.....But the unions barely represent 12% of the workforce anymore man. Should be more like 75% IMO.... Why? Ask your local republican whose pocket its lining.... the public has been brainwashed w/ so much of the trash you just spit out they think it must be so? As for corruption nah...They are not not every one them "The measure of a man is in what he does with power"-Plato...Individuals get greedy not the organization. Mob's have had more interest's in running wallstreet then the unions.

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so, where in there do we find the name of this exemplary union that is not run by criminals, mob bosses and hucksters?

that was the challenge, yet is see only shrill accusations against republicans, conservatism, capital, vague allusions to crooked union bosses who were booted out after fucking over the pension funds (yes i had to google your obscure partial reference), and demands that unions be given MORE power over MORE workers cuz then they will stop being crooked...

all you gotta do is pull up one union that isnt dominated by crooks. they dont even have to be perfect, just ten years without a RICO indictment would be sufficient (lulz, good luck on that)

surely in all these unions you can find one that has gone a single decade without significant mob influence.

5 years?

2 years?

BROBIE said:

That your childish insults drown out anything intelligent you might have said. It's FLUX not Fux you plick!

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i didnt make him jam an apostrophe into "republicans"

i didnt make him fail so miserably at presenting his argument

i didnt sabotage his attempt to craft a cogent response

i didnt force him to Twatter up this bitch with his @'s and shit

i just lay down facts, and ridicule idiots

somebody has to refute these calumnies, and i dont see you steppin up.

Dr Kynes said:

.... and i dont see you steppin up.

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Not worth the energy at this point. You just go on.

BROBIE said:

Not worth the energy at this point. You just go on.

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Pwned! The shrill cries of the progressive tit-sucker once again dispatched to ignominy.

You are free to look up the big words. Basically, they say you were bitch slapped.

desert dude said:

Pwned! The shrill cries of the progressive tit-sucker once again dispatched to ignominy.

You are free to look up the big words. Basically, they say you were bitch slapped.

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No...FOOTBALL is grabbing my interests at this moment. Ignominy? tit-sucker? which word do I need to look up? You are kidding right? Are you trying to impress? FAIL

WHODAT@THADOR said:

So that was easy enough....Dude so ya kno I really dont care... Your just a fag and there aint no denying that you act like you ain't putting out low blows to try and piss me off...Im not declaring victory I have stated several times I think both parties are corrupt maybe read back to the beginning? You have shown me absolutely nothing as for a strawman you still have shown me nothing show me where the UA is ran by the mob? Come on with it I'll b waiting ...O and why your at it you can show me some evidence on your assumption that they did not build america either
I double dog dare ya

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wow. my restating of YOUR idiotic strawman somehow equates to ME suggesting that union corruption effects macro-economics?

or are you simply illiterate?

ill break it down to 3rd grade level for ya:

I said "unions are all corrupt", and YOU responded with the macro-economics bullshit strawman. restating YOUR buffleheaded attempt to change the subject was a demonstration of your obvious incompetence.
i have never made any claim that unions in any way effect the economy as a whole.

your moronic assertion that "unions built this country" is equally foolish

one could make a better argument that SLAVERY built this country, since slaves actually did shit, while union bosses sit on their fat asses leeching off those who actually do shit, and steal a slice of the workers' already meager wages.

the corruption at UAW has not yet been presented, because you still havent dealt with the teamsters shit that is already in evidence.

try to follow the arguments, i know, it's super complicated, cuz TWO actual assertions remain outstanding, and for your benefit i shall restate them:

1 ) democrats controlled the congress when the cannabis prohibition laws were drafted, and they controlled the presidency at the time too, with the noted exception of Nixon
2 ) every union in america is a corrupt mob influenced racket

disproving EITHER of these assertions would be a victory

i dont usually go out on a limb and make declarations like this, since in most cases opinions and points of view get involved to muddy the waters.
in these cases, these statements are simply factual, stated in refutation of previous arguments.

if you were capable of proving these statements wrong, you would win this argument, but instead you have tried to change the subject, called me a fag, and posted gifs.

and in conclusion...

bu$hleaguer said:

all it took was a quick google search to see that at least 40% of republicans support legislation in favor of Mary Jane.

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i have to see a citation for that whopper.

ritt momney: " i will fight cannabis legalization tooth and nail!"

obama/holder: "here are 8 rules/guidelines for all the states that want legal cannabis. enjoy!"



but we should all probably listen to kkkynes and believe that democrats are the prohibition party. right.

hey kkkynes, if you unionized, your job stocking the hostess products at walmart might pay you enough to pay rent all by yourself, instead of splitting it with the 8 other family members you live with.

but hey, at least your white supremacist buddy desert dude thinks you PWNED someone, so you've got that going for you at least.

UncleBuck said:

ritt momney: " i will fight cannabis legalization tooth and nail!"

obama/holder: "here are 8 rules/guidelines for all the states that want legal cannabis. enjoy!"



but we should all probably listen to kkkynes and believe that democrats are the prohibition party. right.

hey kkkynes, if you unionized, your job stocking the hostess products at walmart might pay you enough to pay rent all by yourself, instead of splitting it with the 8 other family members you live with.

but hey, at least your white supremacist buddy desert dude thinks you PWNED someone, so you've got that going for you at least.

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You are correct that Mitt Romney is a prohibitionist. That doesn't mean Obama is Jack Here though.

Obama could have on DAY ONE instructed the DEA to trash the whole schedule 1 thing. He didn't though...hundreds of thousands of people have been arrested since he didn't do that, not to mention lots of puppy dogs got shot. Why don't you like puppies?