Im doing it wrong! (less then an OZ a plant yields..) and SOG question

Ok, hello again everyone. Im embarking on my fifth grow now, and despite using AN nutes and measuring my PPMs and PH levels often, i STILL cant seem to get more then an ounce a plant, if im lucky.

when i say less then an ounce, im talking after ive trimmed ALL stems and its just buds. I think my issue is that while inexperinced, i never got familar with one strain. in my first year of growing ive grown the following

SLH
LSD
G13 Haze
Kandy Kush
Purple wreck
purple power
liberty haze
sour kush
arjan ultra haze 1

currently in my veg room i have

cotton candy
tangerine dream
Arjans haze #1
Hawiian snow.

not a SINGLE plant has ever given me over an ounce. Ive tried topping and super cropping, but my highest yield was actually from a SLH grow (my first ever) and is actually my fav strain so ive ordered ten seeds of it along withs ome vanilla kush to SOG with.

i grow in 5 gallon+ containers in dirt btw. use AN and my tap water comes out of the tap at 386ppms. I use a 1k HPS in a room 6ft long by 4wide and 5.5 ft tall.


I want to SOG with 20-25 plants. is it possible to get MORE then an ounce per plant with a setup like this if practice and get accustomed to one strain?

yes it is. what kind of dirt r u working with.

Sounds to me like ur doing something or something else is going on to stress ur girls.Try not to trim unless u have to,fan not blowing directly on plants constantly,try using rain water(no ph issues),really I could go on and on,really there r a lot of reasons as to why u have low plant yields, but I would suspect ur stressing 'em in some way.remember keep it simple,let mother nature help she cant b beat.keep reading other posts,youtube it!good luck dirty

Do you think I need an RO machine by chance. My.room.temps never.go above 85 f. Humidity is 40%. Plants are usually 18" away from the lights.

Working with regular old dirt.

Well the tap water is something that needs to be addressed somehow. Since your going with multiple plants I understand that buying water is simply first too expensive and second too much of a hassle. Maybe you can adapt some kind of R/O filter to your tap water; there's some really inexpensive ones in Amazon and E-bay you can take a look at (for example). But proper nutrition is an important aspect and having tap water with that much ppm can cause some issues and inaccurate interpretations of how much your plants are consuming.

Also are you using an MH light for veg and what wattage or are you using the HPS straight from seed? Using the MH for vegetation can help increase the overall size of the plant and thus have more bud sites per plant to later have flower with the HPS. A 1kW HPS should be enough for that space if you have the proper reflector and at the right distance.

The technique you use can greatly affect your end result. If you SOG make sure you space them at at least 1 plant per square feet, it might seem like a waste of space at first but once you see them flower you'll understand why. With the space you have it'll probably be more realistic to try with 15 plants max; this will also help increase overall yield per plant. Have you tried just letting them be and not top or super-crop to see how you fare? Another option would be to "lolly-pop" each plant so that there's only one main cola per plant, also increasing yield per plant, but beware because not all strains respond well to these techniques. Some are best suited for topping some are not and so on and so forth.

Good root development is essential to the plants overall health and a healthy plant will always yield more than a sick and weak one. Make sure your pots are light proof and your not getting any root bounding and you have time to dedicate to your girl making sure they have proper watering and always remember; LESS IS MORE, if your unsure as to what's going on it's always best to flush and start over with a half dose feeding.

Proper ventilation is another point to cover. For such a space I would imagine you have some sort of ventilation system bringing in fresh air to that room and exhausting the old. Plants need a constant supply of fresh air to ensure proper rates of photosynthesis. Proper respiration and transpiration is essential to a healthy plant and if the air around the plant is not replenished this could have an adverse affect on the overall health and thus eventual harvest.

It's impossible to accurately give you a straight answer without any more info and some pictures perhaps but following these common guidelines should help your situation to some degree. Hope it helps and keep us posted.

If u cant collect rain water I use ozarka spring water,use blackstrap molasses for a nutriment boost.Are ur day/night temps very drastic(85day/75night would be ideal).Try using supplemental lighting,cfl's or flourescents.use floros if heat is an issue.With 1000W I assume u temps controlled.hope I help remember keep it as simple as possible.

Do you ever top it during veg? Do any type of training?

I was about to say maybe your not doing too bad if you putting like 6 plants in a 30 gal tub like I used to do .. but when i do 5 gal tubs and let a plant grow i get 3 oz or more easy.

You gotta top em bro.. dont skimp on nutes.. etc . Don't stress the plant I find you ever stress the plant you will pay for it. And last week or two of flushing don't let the plant stress. If those buds really need to thicken more spray some organic nute on it at night or something.. just find something that works.

dude u have everything right except the very basics. Get some Fox farms soil and distilled or reverse osmosis water. I think there is a lot of confusion on this side with the term R/O being either reverse osmosis or run-off from rain

No confusion dirtyjersey said RO MACHINE.FFOF soil is good but it should be organically supplemented if possible.Spring water is better than distilled.Nothings better than mother nature.My opinions and I'm a smart dumbass or dumb smartass

You're growing in dirt? that might be your problem. try to make a nice compost pile and when that's ready use that, or atleast mix that with your dirt. Hell, even if you go to the store and buy a bag of compost to mix into your dirt it would be a whole lot of help.

If you're not as concerned about organic then I'd recommend buying some good soil. I use black gold organic potting soil, it's not fully organic but it works good for my first grow and I think I'm gonna stick with it.

Compost or Guano tea would also be a great thing to learn about and thinking about using. Gotta make sure you feed your beneficial bacteria & microbes so it doesn't have to take away from your plant. Unsulphured molasses is a great way to feed the bacteria and microbes.

What nutrients are you using? you said AN so i'm guessing Advanced nutrients? they have a ton, what ones are you using?

How long are you vegging your plants? If you're a "she's been in veg 2 weeks and I'm going 12/12" your answer is right there. The longer the veg, the bigger the plant (unless you have black thumb) and the better the yield of bigger buds. Start 12/12 at a month a reap an ounce. Read up here on RIU. Some guys get even less! One guy this morning - "I got 18 grams". No shit.

Dirt? From your backyard? There is a difference between dirt and 'fertile soil', Not every continent/town/state is blessed with the latter.

Make yourself a nice mix of good quality potting mix and enrich it with wormcastings, compost and good amounts of perlite to make it drain well. It may cost more than just using dirt but the return you will reap will be well worth it............and your buds will be tasty!

Yeah dirt does that i bet it has clay in it

I use AN sensi bloom,big bud, bud candy, budfactor x, bud blood and overdrive. Im thinking an RO machine will help me since my tap water isnt the cleanest, and as for soil i use regular old top soil.

do you REALLY think these are my main issues here? something is stressing my plants, and id really like to get to the bottom of it.

btw, i keep feedings in the 700-1200 PPM range depending on week of course.

I use cat litter containers for my pots btw, im just thinking about it....they arent lightproof perhaps? could this be an issue?

Dirty jersey said:

I use AN sensi bloom,big bud, bud candy, budfactor x, bud blood and overdrive. Im thinking an RO machine will help me since my tap water isnt the cleanest, and as for soil i use regular old top soil.

do you REALLY think these are my main issues here? something is stressing my plants, and id really like to get to the bottom of it.

btw, i keep feedings in the 700-1200 PPM range depending on week of course.

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you just named 6 bloom boosters being used from AN.. there's your problem

That's most likely close to $100 of nutrients and i don't see any Nitrogen food?

you're plants are not getting the correct NPK ratio's, little own not getting any of the essential minerals.

i would suggest getting a decent base nutrient and starting over again, https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/429438-dyna-gro-vs-advanced-nutrients.html

Have a read through that.. you will learn a tun.

Wait what?

You use a 1000 watt hps and cannot get more than one ounce per plant?

If you plan on s.o.g 20-25 plants with 1 1k I doubt you will get 1oz per plant..

less plants, more lights

from my understand dirt is soil that is not alive with bacteria. soil is a living thing. the living things break down nutrients for your plants to take it up. you always want a good soil.