I'm poor an can't afford ph down any other ways of lowering ph?

Bugeye said:

When I was your age, I was so poor I didn't even have a pot plant to piss in. So poor, I couldn't even pay attention.

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that's damn funny

Wholly Shit the guy asked for a cheaper way to get his ph down not a bunch of condescension.

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I guess if you were broke, and you wanted to raise your PH you could add Lye...
And if you wanted to lower it you could use Battery acid...
I mean, those are cheap options....

Brittle said:

Because that's why I'm broke??? Lol I got the small ph down from petco but how much do I use per gallon to bring it down a full point ? I can't afford a ph meter too but I know what it come out too after it's all mixed ..

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here's a pH pen for ya
http://www.amazon.com/BestDealUSA-PH-009-Meter-Digital-Tester/dp/B0087LOWIA/ref=pd_cp_hi_1
$5.10, $ 10.09 delivered don't drop it though, probes very delicate I've broken one,it fell. Ordering another now. GL.

Make sure to use potassium lye (KOH) instead of sodium lye (NaOH)

Not only is that a cheap option, it's a strong base and provides potassium.

Sand4x105 said:

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I guess if you were broke, and you wanted to raise your PH you could add Lye...
And if you wanted to lower it you could use Battery acid...
I mean, those are cheap options....

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Churhaze, I am not ignorant. You make your own shit, do not trust a company to do the right thing. Organic people know whats i their stuff, they made it. If your so smart take a look at whats in processed foods and ferts. Your ignorant, fucking plants, food and weed has growing for thousands of years with out your help.

Sand4x105 said:

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I guess if you were broke, and you wanted to raise your PH you could add Lye...
And if you wanted to lower it you could use Battery acid...
I mean, those are cheap options....

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OP wants to lower pH but good heads up on raising pH.

It is only in the last 50 years or so that man has decided to fuck with everything. Hey lets put growth hormones in animals. Lets spray everything with chemicals. Its fucking retarded.

whitebb2727 said:

It is only in the last 50 years or so that man has decided to fuck with everything. Hey lets put growth hormones in animals. Lets spray everything with chemicals. Its fucking retarded.

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It's the beginning of the end. Bummer.

The most dangerous chemical on the planet is water.

And plants have been around for a little longer than "thousands of years", in fact, humans have been fucking with things for thousands of years. Plants have been around for MILLIONS of years. Chemicals have been around for 10s of billions of years!

whitebb2727 said:

It is only in the last 50 years or so that man has decided to fuck with everything. Hey lets put growth hormones in animals. Lets spray everything with chemicals. Its fucking retarded.

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Brittle said:

You are the dumbest kid I've ever met not to mention ignorant I've been growing out doors since I was 14 so indoor is a bit new but you don't know shit dude

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If you're so knowledgable and experienced about growing, why don't you already have the tools needed to do the job? I'm pretty sure that's what everyone here has been saying. From your posts on this thread it seems as if not having the right tools is how you live your life. Have an apt but can barely afford the rent, want to grow weed but can't afford the expenses. I'm sure you have a car but can't afford the gas or repairs too. You need to grow up a little and get your life in order before running up your utilities to get high. I'm sure you can't afford those either. Get a second job or something. This thread has officially pissed me off.

its all about priorities

Wow breath step back puff a few times. this is a site to help each other. Yeah some are broke. some have allot of money. he is doing this to learn and once he has his setup then its cheaper. I work 7-8 months a year i dont do unemployment so in winter im poor. i pay all my bills ahead even stock up on all ill need. so i understand not having money to just go buy this and buy that. Talking bs and giving speeches is not helping anyone. Lets remember to be kind to each other, treat others the way you want to be treated.
Love and Peace all.

This thread is funny, in a sad kind of way...

DCobeen said:

Wow breath step back puff a few times. this is a site to help each other. Yeah some are broke. some have allot of money. he is doing this to learn and once he has his setup then its cheaper. I work 7-8 moAmennths a year i dont do unemployment so in winter im poor. i pay all my bills ahead even stock up on all ill need. so i understand not having money to just go buy this and buy that. Talking bs and giving speeches is not helping anyone. Lets remember to be kind to each other, treat others the way you want to be treated.
Love and Peace all.

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I predict you'll rip em up before theyre finished and smoke em...

Wait a minute...so you guys are saying R. Kelly was wrong all along?...DAMN! If you're gonna piss on your girls....make sure there are no cameras around and that you have consent.

I am not sure most of you know what a troll is. Giving stupid opinions (whichever opinions on here you think are stupid and exist to stir up conflict) is not a form of trolling. Trolling is the action of trying to get a reaction out of other people on the internet. Most of the people here seemed sincere and upset. A true troll never lets emotions get to them and laughs at the emotions thrown back their way due to their post which created a negative reaction. Basically what I am saying is being dumb/ignorant does not equate to being a troll.

churchhaze said:

Bullshit kid. There's no way you're getting a house without good credit and a good source of income...

And guess what, your credit score will affect your INTEREST RATES meaning you will pay more if you screw up now and you won't be forgiven for any mistakes you makes for 7 years! That means if you fuck up now and it takes you 2 years to fix your mistakes, it will be 9 years before you will ever be able to borrow again.

Also, you can't even get an apartment these days without good credit. You could end up homeless over a stupid number.

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You live by societies rules I see. You wouldn't last very long in the wilderness or on the streets (takes an entirely different form of intellect and knowledge). You don't need credit to live and it definitely won't make you homeless. I can get on craigslist and have a place to stay the same day as long as I have the money (and a nice place). I don't use credit, only cash and I don't use banks often except for when I invest in bitcoins. You are right when you say you do need income but you do not need credit. I have bad credit and am living the life I want to live. I won't go into details but because of the way I live and how I have my "identity" setup there is nothing, no paper trail, where authorities could find where I live, work, where my money is going, where it comes from, etc... I live under the radar and this allows me to buy the things I want without attracting unnecessary attention, keeps people off my back, and keeps money in my pocket. Using credit to purchase things only leaves paper trails and information about the way you live which the government can use and monitor.

The best way to get it right is to use hydro nutes with buffers every watering. My water is 8.8, I don't ph , I just use Canna terra vega then flores in coco, no adjustment and they are powering, green leaves till the end. Im sure other brands work like this too.