Im Praying this doesnt happen

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Keenly

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stalebiscuit said:
move to the US, at least here you have a chance to be a citizen versus a subject
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at&t has servers that copy every text message, every IM, every conversation you have on the internet


i believe they are based in san francisco
 
stalebiscuit

stalebiscuit

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Keenly said:
at&t has servers that copy every text message, every IM, every conversation you have on the internet


i believe they are based in san francisco
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ya, never said i dont like that shit either

fucking facebook does it to, they post ads based on what you wrote about yourself on your profile

as soon as i broke up with my girlfriend, i got ads for single christian bitches (like wtf they dont put out, why am i interested in that)

my point is though, the UK is a little.....alot worse than the US

i mean cameras on every street, not being able to own a firearm, highly socialized government, its a police state as far as im concerned

and as far as AT&T doing that BS, i dont like it. which is why i dont mention things over that stuff
 
jeff f

jeff f

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as soon as i broke up with my girlfriend, i got ads for single christian bitches (like wtf they dont put out, why am i interested in that)
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dude, that may be the funniest thing i have ever read on riu. fucking hilarious
 
doc111

doc111

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The U.S. isn't too far behind the U.K. at the rate we're going. Everybody who logs onto RIU from the U.K. will be getting a visit paid to them from the bobbies if that's the case. That's pretty much the end of privacy. :cuss:
 
undertheice

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doc111 said:
That's pretty much the end of privacy.
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while big brother set up shop long ago in the u.k., the u.s. isn't far behind. it seems i'm hearing more and more often that privacy isn't a right and that the necessities of national security and public safety trump any rights that the individual may have. the good of society is being taken out of the hands of the people and placed under the control of an elite at an ever increasingly global level. hidden behind the rhetoric of fairness and humaneness, there is the shadow of authoritarian control and the rise of global dominion. wherever the individual is free of the probing eye of authority, there is the possibility of sedition against the state and this will not be tolerated for much longer. every conversation we have (over whatever means of conveyance), every place we go, every site we visit and word we post can be scrutinized and traced back to its point of origin. stored away for future use, all but our most personal thoughts and private face to face conversations can be used against us if the state finds that it has that need.

we have not only allowed this, we have demanded it. we wanted safety and our governments have provided its illusion. we wanted plenty and our governments have provided that illusion as well. we have asked for too much from others and the price we pay is the inability to fend for ourselves. we have been willing to sacrifice the individual for security and comfort and are in danger of losing what makes humanity so special. bees exist in hives and cattle in herds, but people have the capacity to survive and thrive as individuals within the society. we are giving that up for the illusions offered by our would-be masters.
 
doc111

doc111

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undertheice said:
while big brother set up shop long ago in the u.k., the u.s. isn't far behind. it seems i'm hearing more and more often that privacy isn't a right and that the necessities of national security and public safety trump any rights that the individual may have. the good of society is being taken out of the hands of the people and placed under the control of an elite at an ever increasingly global level. hidden behind the rhetoric of fairness and humaneness, there is the shadow of authoritarian control and the rise of global dominion. wherever the individual is free of the probing eye of authority, there is the possibility of sedition against the state and this will not be tolerated for much longer. every conversation we have (over whatever means of conveyance), every place we go, every site we visit and word we post can be scrutinized and traced back to its point of origin. stored away for future use, all but our most personal thoughts and private face to face conversations can be used against us if the state finds that it has that need.

we have not only allowed this, we have demanded it. we wanted safety and our governments have provided its illusion. we wanted plenty and our governments have provided that illusion as well. we have asked for too much from others and the price we pay is the inability to fend for ourselves. we have been willing to sacrifice the individual for security and comfort and are in danger of losing what makes humanity so special. bees exist in hives and cattle in herds, but people have the capacity to survive and thrive as individuals within the society. we are giving that up for the illusions offered by our would-be masters.
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I agree. The U.S. isn't far behind at all. Where I live they are already putting up those surveillance cameras in high crime areas. We are at the threshold of computers being able to do the monitoring and decision making for us. Before it was a matter of not being able to effectively put enough eyes behind those cameras to watch everything that goes on. We are almost there. George Orwell was off by a couple of decades but he was pretty correct with his assessment of what was to come. A warning in the guise of fiction goes unheeded by the masses.
 
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the U.S. government already spies on citizens without a warrant or anything...

it became commonplace practice under the Bush administration.... yeah, BUSH approved of spying on citizens, without any regards to what the constitution says... he essentially read the constitution, laughed, wiped his ass with it, then said, FUCK THIS, spy on any abzullah, mohammed, etc. etc. etc. until you catch me a terrorist...

this isn't coming to the US, it's already here.... it's called the NSA.
 
doc111

doc111

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redivider said:
the U.S. government already spies on citizens without a warrant or anything...

it became commonplace practice under the Bush administration.... yeah, BUSH approved of spying on citizens, without any regards to what the constitution says... he essentially read the constitution, laughed, wiped his ass with it, then said, FUCK THIS, spy on any abzullah, mohammed, etc. etc. etc. until you catch me a terrorist...

this isn't coming to the US, it's already here.... it's called the NSA.
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What does Nasa got to do with it? lol! The U.K. has made a policy to spy on every communication it's citizens make. And they are telling the people that they are doing it! The U.S. is spying on it's citizens but probably not absolutely everything. Case in point, the whack job who just shot up Ft. Hood. If they were watching all of us they should've been able to catch this asshole. :dunce:
 
undertheice

undertheice

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redivider said:
the U.S. government already spies on citizens without a warrant or anything...

it became commonplace practice under the Bush administration....
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i realize that blaming baby bush for all the problems of the world is the cool thing to do, but enough is enough. that doofus has been and will continue to be the scapegoat for anyone with an axe to grind, but our dilemma started long before he was even born. since shortly after the constitution was written, the powerful have been finding ways around it and attempting to pervert its meaning and no one person or party has been any more to blame than the people themselves. we have deluded ourselves into believing that our security is more important than our freedom, our comfort worth the loss of our independence.
 
Phenom420

Phenom420

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what's privacy????
our ISPs can already filter packet data as well as spy on data as well and know everything you do.
If noone tells anything, how would you know....
We all have been watched for a good deal of time, they just are getting around to telling us, much like everything else wrong 2 late BITCH.
 
medicineman

medicineman

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I have to agree with the righties on the spy thingy, but I believe it was and is primarily the paranoia of right wing zealots in government that have forced these programs down our throats, Prove me wrong if you can. I'm agreed that the left had a hand in it, but the primary promoters were repukes. I'm more inclined to go with my new choices for Pres and veep, Dennis Kucinich for pres and Ron Paul for veep. What say you righties? HO HO HO!
 
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