Impeachment Anyone

medicineman

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Remember what Bill Clinton was impeached for when reading the following ten reasons why George W Bush should be impeached:
North American Union, Amnesty program, Killing sovereignty
The open plan to merge the US with Mexico and Canada and create a Pan American Union has long been a Globalist brainchild but its very real and prescient implementation on behalf of the Council on Foreign Relations has finally been reported on by mainstream news outlets.
The framework on which the American Union is being pegged is the NAFTA Super Highway, a four football-fields-wide leviathan that stretches from southern Mexico through the US up to Montreal Canada .Coupled with Bush's blanket amnesty program, the Pan American Union is the final jigsaw piece for the total dismantling of America as we know it.
Illegal legislation / Re-writing law: Patriot Act, Military Commissions Act, Wiretapping
The party line often heard from Neo-Cons in their attempts to defend the Patriot Act either circulate around the contention that the use of the Patriot Act has never been abused or that it isn't being used against American citizens. Here is an archive of articles that disproves both of these fallacies.
Neo-Con government mouthpieces and others are claiming that the Military Commissions Act of 2006, which heralded the official end of the "great experiment" of the American democratic republic, does not affect U.S. citizens, only illegal aliens and foreign terrorists. Recent history of how terror legislation was used to target American citizens clearly indicates the legislation will be used domestically.
Buried amongst the untold affronts to the Bill of Rights, the Constitution and the very spirit of America, the bill also contains a definition of "wrongfully aiding the enemy" which labels all American citizens who breach their "allegiance" to President Bush and the actions of his government as terrorists subject to possible arrest, torture and conviction in front of a military tribunal.
The wiretapping program violates the Fourth Amendment and FISA and will chill free speech. The Fourth Amendment protects the right of the people of the United States to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures and requires court approval except in an emergency. As a bipartisan group of legal experts—including Judge William Sessions, the former Director of the FBI under President Ronald Reagan—concluded after analyzing all the constitutional and statutory assertions of the administration: “the Justice Department’s defense of what it concedes was secret and warrantless electronic surveillance of persons within the United States fails to identify any plausible legal authority for such surveillance.”
Bush is also planning to abolish parts of the War Crimes Act of 1996 that makes it a felony to commit grave violations of the Geneva Conventions. He is systematically re-writing laws that could make him accountable for previous crimes against humanity.
UNESCO and UN treaties
For reasons inexplicable to most sensible Americans, in September 2002, President George W. Bush told the United Nations that the U.S. will rejoin the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO), a wild-eyed bunch President Reagan abandoned in 1984, noting that it was utterly corrupt and the U.S. had no business being a member of such a group.
Destruction of the Dollar
Former World Bank Vice President, Chief Economist and Nobel Prize winner Joseph Stiglitz has predicted a global economic crash within 24 months - unless the current downturn is successfully managed. Asked if the situation was being properly handled Stiglitz emphatically responded "no,".
Stiglitz caused controversy in October 2001 when he exposed rampant corruption within the IMF and blew the whistle on their nefarious methods of inducing countries to fall under their debt before stripping them of sovereignty and hollowing out their economies. Stiglitz agreed that the process of hijacking and looting key infrastructure on the part of the IMF and World Bank, as an offshoot of predatory globalization, had now moved from the third world to Europe, the United States and Canada.
 

medicineman

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New Freedom Initiative
Enforced and mandatory psychological testing and drugging is now a proposed federal law, to be done nationwide under Bush's 'New Freedom initiative'. Bush established the New Freedom Commission on Mental Health in April 2002 to conduct a "comprehensive study of the United States mental health service delivery system." The commission issued its recommendations in July 2003. Bush instructed more than 25 federal agencies to develop an implementation plan based on those recommendations
Real ID act
The Real ID Act essentially turns your driver's license into a national identification card. Or at least licenses issued by 2008 will be. That's when the program is to start.
Congressman Ron Paul: "Proponents of the REAL ID Act continue to make the preposterous claim that the bill does not establish a national ID card. This is dangerous and insulting nonsense."
The Senate has passed the Real ID bill, creating a backdoor national ID card. After weeks of activism directed towards them senators knew the full scale of this horror but voted for it 100-0 anyway.
Lies that led us to war
The Downing Street Memo and other documents prove that Bush knew there were no WMD before the invasion of Iraq. Bush's WMD statements, in chronological order, were:
"Right now, Iraq is expanding and improving facilities that were used for the production of biological weapons."
-- United Nations Address, September 12, 2002
"Iraq has stockpiled biological and chemical weapons, and is rebuilding the facilities used to make more of those weapons."
"We have sources that tell us that Saddam Hussein recently authorized Iraqi field commanders to use chemical weapons -- the very weapons the dictator tells us he does not have."
-- Radio Address, October 5, 2002
"The Iraqi regime . . . possesses and produces chemical and biological weapons. It is seeking nuclear weapons."
"We know that the regime has produced thousands of tons of chemical agents, including mustard gas, sarin nerve gas, VX nerve gas."
"We've also discovered through intelligence that Iraq has a growing fleet of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that could be used to disperse chemical or biological weapons across broad areas. We're concerned that Iraq is exploring ways of using these UAVS for missions targeting the United States."
"The evidence indicates that Iraq is reconstituting its nuclear weapons program. Saddam Hussein has held numerous meetings with Iraqi nuclear scientists, a group he calls his "nuclear mujahideen" -- his nuclear holy warriors. Satellite photographs reveal that Iraq is rebuilding facilities at sites that have been part of its nuclear program in the past. Iraq has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes and other equipment needed for gas centrifuges, which are used to enrich uranium for nuclear weapons."
-- Cincinnati, Ohio Speech, October 7, 2002
"Our intelligence officials estimate that Saddam Hussein had the materials to produce as much as 500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve agent."
-- State of the Union Address, January 28, 2003
"Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised."
-- Address to the Nation, March 17, 2003
Buying fake news and engaging in domestic propaganda
In 2004, several news stations around the country broadcast a story on plans for a White House advertising campaign on the dangers of drug abuse. But the "journalist" who reported this story was not a journalist, and his report was actually produced by the Bush administration.
The nonpartisan Government Accountability Office, the investigative arm of Congress, ruled that this amounted to illegal "covert propaganda."
The GAO said the Department of Health and Human Services violated two federal laws when it created fake news footage to support the administration's Medicare drug benefit bill.
Hurricane Katrina response
The event paved the way for the standard government response to a crisis - sabotage the rescue efforts, dominate and enslave the victims, then reap the windfall from the tragedy.
Katrina was a trial balloon for widespread gun confiscation under the pretext of a crisis. Every aspect of government involvement with the event unveils scandal, corruption, deceit and criminal negligence.
9/11
Bush personally backed the FBI off Bin Laden before 9/11.
The Bush administration moved to block transparency of secret bank accounts, which in part facilitated the 9/11 terror attacks.
The demeanor of Bush on the day of 9/11, doe eyed, unsure, taking the decision to read an upside down book about a pet goat for half an hour after he’s told about the biggest attack on America since Pearl Harbor.
Impeachment and indictment is the only way to go to save America and democracy. Bush is a figurehead but we need to show the world that he and his handlers are not our leaders.
 

Wavels

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More paranoia with a very slight, almost microscopic, kernel of truth to some of the allegations of breach of trust.
I Listened to this Alex Jones last night here....
COAST TO COAST AM WITH GEORGE NOORY IMO, not credible for even a nanosecond!

Hysterical and shrill sophistry!
Politics also now dictate impeachment to be DOA for dems.
It's not gonna happen, way too risky politically.
:joint:
 

medicineman

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Wavels, where do you live? you must be from another planet. Are you just visiting earth for the first time? What kind of isolated life are you living. I speak of the real America, the one with poor people in it. You must not know of these things in your fantasy world where all things turn to gold. There is a real struggle going on in "our" country and you assholes could care less. Let them eat shit. You Elites make me want to puke! Guess what, when judgement day arrives, I'm gonna be in the front row to see you get yours.
 

ViRedd

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Med ...

Why are you so god-damned insulting to anyone who disagrees with you? This is a forum for political discussion. Either learn to be more respectful of other posters, learn to debate/discuss without debasing yourself, or curb the postings. Your insults are getting mighty old.

Vi

 

Wavels

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^^^^l
Med certainly is a trip!
I love the way he characterizes any critique of his ideas in such colorful hyperbolic terms. Quite energetic, and amusingly misguided!
 

Smirgen

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I noticed that there are a lot of Democrats , Liberals,secular progressives who want to put Cheney in charge by Impeaching Bush.
 

Widow Maker

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I agree with Med. Impeach that mofo. Im tired of losing my freedoms from lies and manipulations. But yeah Med needs to learn some better debating skills. lol.
 

DankyDank

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I would like to see impeachment, but for different reasons than Med. I think a long and drawn out impeachment process would help people see that there is no significant difference between the "two" parties, and that they are just locked in a power struggle that has nothing to do with trying to govern wisely. Not to mention the fact that the government that governs least governs best, and if they are busy attacking each other, they will have a lot less time to pay attention to me.

Unfortunately, impeachment is a political non-starter. The only people who are really supporting the notion are the fringe folks way out on the edges; lefties who are convinced that Bush's poor policies were a result of some kind of vast corporate conspiracy rather than simple stupidity, and staunch conservatives who recognize that there is nothing "conservative" about invading a third world country and spending money like a drunk Democrat. The vast majority of Americans are the folks in the middle, who just want to see some solutions instead of constant bickering and power grabs.

On another note- Med, would you please quit railing about "poor people?" We don't have a poverty problem in this country. We have a problem with how we deal with drug addicts and mentally ill people; we call them "homeless." Take those folks out of the equation, and you are talking a bout a group of people who are CHOOSING a particular lifestyle. They can only be called "poor" in relation to the megarich. You really have to go into other countries to find truly poor people. We've got it real good here, and that's the truth.
 

Widow Maker

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I agree Dank but I think its was all planned out. George W is stupid but his daddy is not. I thought he would be a good president haveing the backing of a dad that was experianced. Boy was I wrong.
 

medicineman

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Basically I'm not talking about the mega-poor, but the middle class that is being squeezed to tears. I react to being called paranoid, as paranoia supposes that something is made up or not true. In essence you are calling me a liar. I am probably the least liar on this site and if you are going to call me one be prepared to get an insult back at you. Just because I don't swallow your libertarian crap doesn't make me any less of a citizen or patriot! When you belittle me as a paranoid then it's on, so bring it or shut the fuck up!
 

DankyDank

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Med, I'm not calling you "paranoid", I'm just sayin that I think the term "poor" gets used VERY loosely in this country, and that it needs to be put in perspective. I'm lower middle class myself, and while I don't feel particularly picked on, I do agree with you that the government is not being run with my best interests at heart.
 

medicineman

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Dank, I don't feel picked on by the government, yet! I've got serious reservations about their authority over me and all citizens. What galls me are the posts about poor, or lower middle class people being exactly where they should be because they want to be there. Doesn't common sense tell you they would rather be rich? What these libertarians don't understand is how hard it is to come from poverty, with no wealthy backing and end up where they are, at a place where the income tax is the greatest worry in their pitiful selfish lives. I would be on cloud 9 if I paid 70K in income tax. Just think how much I'd have left. These are the same people that when they were Kids, they wouldn't let anyone play with their toys. Spoiled Brats. To be demeaned by them makes me proud, because I know I'm gettin to them. I doubt if either of them went to war, yet they are perfectly happy to see others kids going there. I guess I'm tired of them thinking they have the moral high ground when I know exactly how they are!
 

Wavels

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I think I can strike a note of commonality here because I agree completely with the notion that the current two party system is totaly dysfunctional and putrid.
This is one of the reasons I would like to see government reined in and downsized......In addition to a viable third party appearing on the political scene.
 

medicineman

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In addition to a viable third party appearing on the political scene.
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They can never quite get it together as the two partys have it sowed up. I believe something like Britain or Canada where they have 4-6 partys and they all wield influence in parliment and vote with one-another to get things done would be better. I also love their prime minister questions! If G.W. had to get up every week and brief congress, then answer all the questions for an hour, I'm pretty sure the last 6 years might have turned out different!
 

Wavels

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Good points Mr. med,
I think a potential adjustment for all those holding elected office in DC, are severe mandatory TERM LIMITS!
Throw them out before they develop superior weasel skills, feeding at the Beltway trough!
 

ViRedd

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Med sez ...

"I guess I'm tired of them thinking they have the moral high ground when I know exactly how they are!"

Nope ... no paranoia there! LMAO!

Vi
 

medicineman

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What would you do without me to post to? This would be pretty boring eh! You get off on the arguments and really like it when I call you an ass, because then you think you've won. No, thats just my way of thanking you for being so contentious. If you'd start answering my questions about the un-rich and what to do with them, I'd see you a lot clearer and quit making judgements based on your lack of spontenaity, as in you don't have an answer because you really don't care as long as they (Govt.) leaves your tax money alone. Untill I get a clear picture of what you think about the rest of humanity, I'll assume the worst, pretty much because that is what you have inferred here on this site, "I've got mine, Fuck you"!
 

ViRedd

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"What would you do without me to post to? This would be pretty boring eh!"

First of all, Med ... you give yourself WAY too much credit. To answer the above question ... I would get along just fine in this forum without you "to post to." In fact, I think your absence would make a monumental improvement to the site. You are a deplorable debator, constantly demeaning, not only to the other members, but also to yourself. You have made physical threats, including physical threats in private messages. You suffer from "little man" syndrome, my friend ... and its getting mighty old. There! Does that answer the above question to your satisfaction?

"If you'd start answering my questions about the un-rich and what to do with them, I'd see you a lot clearer and quit making judgements based on your lack of spontenaity ..."

What to do with the "un-rich?" Uhhh ... how about raising the minimum wage to $70,000 a year. That should take care of it, no?

Vi
 

medicineman

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"What would you do without me to post to? This would be pretty boring eh!"

First of all, Med ... you give yourself WAY too much credit. To answer the above question ... I would get along just fine in this forum without you "to post to." In fact, I think your absence would make a monumental improvement to the site. You are a deplorable debator, constantly demeaning, not only to the other members, but also to yourself. You have made physical threats, including physical threats in private messages. You suffer from "little man" syndrome, my friend ... and its getting mighty old. There! Does that answer the above question to your satisfaction?

"If you'd start answering my questions about the un-rich and what to do with them, I'd see you a lot clearer and quit making judgements based on your lack of spontenaity ..."

What to do with the "un-rich?" Uhhh ... how about raising the minimum wage to $70,000 a year. That should take care of it, no?

Vi
I guess there is no getting along with you, so go on and post your demeaning bullshit, I'll just consider the source! Yeah I almost forgot, I'm a little bald fat man with a big chip on my shoulder, you'd be surprised to see me, really you would!
 
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