in a wolverine state of mind? wanna fight like a spartan? just planting a seed :)

please consider voting on the poll question...
"poll question:
in your 'personal' view, is possessing seeds and growing plants, 'any' plants (in effort to meet your own needs in order to 'live') your self evident inherent human right? at least as important as 'religion' for example
yes
no
i dont know
the poll is linked here:
https://www.rollitup.org/politics/773992-your-personal-view-possessing-seeds.html

please also maybe consider being involved in an action as described here:
in at least 9 fed district courts from coast2coast and north2south we simultaneously file for injunctive relief based on the poll question (linked above) turned into a statement and a cause of action linked to the 9th amen...
such would force media coverage if done right and then possibly shift the public 'debate' or question from being simply about 'legalization' through legislation/regulation or not and is there 'a right to grow cannabis' or not to the more appropriate question is there 'a right to grow plants' etc...and imo the majority of the public would answer as the majority has voted in the poll question here so far...
(current polling stats for 'legalization'/regulation at the moment show a 55% yes...i think that number would jump to possibly 75% or more if the question was just worded differently)
such cases would also be written up and hopefully spoken about as human rights cases which would also hopefully penetrate and morph the current frame work of the status quot public debate etc...
the litigation would hopefully force more then summary dismissals but even if that were the case it would open many peoples eyes to exactly where we r at in these times etc..
of course i've hardly scratched the surface of what such an effort would look like etc, but its totally doable...
further, it could be done with the folks here at RIU, theres plenty of talent creativity and passion etc researchers who live to prove others wrong etc lol...just saying even sock puppets could do this deal if need be, it just needs to get done b4 our standing becomes any more eroded through legislation/regulation etc...
even would be a bonus if we created 'amistad' moments in court rooms (our fact finding rooms, all other rooms are opinion rooms) across the country ???

[video=youtube;WzCgOrQn0GM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzCgOrQn0GM[/video]

ok thanks, jusplantinaseed<3

The woodland Indian knew the spirit of the Wolverine well and they invoked its master for medicine and war time . Fight like a Wolverine and die like one in war . I learned of this reading French Voyageur notes as well as Jesuit notes .

Magicweed said:

The woodland Indian knew the spirit of the Wolverine well and they invoked its master for medicine and war time . Fight like a Wolverine and die like one in war . I learned of this reading French Voyageur notes as well as Jesuit notes .

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we r in a time when it is critical that we see all the creatures (including plants and rocks etc) in respect and as relatives and thereby invoking the medicine of all in order to better know ourselves so that we know what we fight for...
the battle field can still b the court room and we fight for human rights just as the constitution was written to protect...unless we neglect to show up...

i wrote this for another thread but thought it might help here in effort to help bring better understanding as to why what questions we are asking ourselves and others are so important...

1. i was put on trial in madera co for felony cultivation charges in 1994 and before 215...
   this was also before i understood the concept of a 'general intent crime' so i didnt understand that in such 'criminal' trials (cannabis cultivation being in that category) why you did what you did becomes (unless a judge explicitly rules other wise in pre trial deliberations etc) irrelevant and inadmissible and the only relevant questions become 'did you do it?' or 'did you have it?' etc...(lesson learned, always be a plaintiff if possible rather than a criminal defendant because basically the rules flip to the reverse and give you relevance when telling why your doing what your doing etc lol)
   prob for me was that the whole reason i planted the 20,000 seeds was to intentionally go on trial in order to tell the jury why i did what i did lol so you can imagine what a pickle jar i had gotten myself into...
   long story short i represented myself and even though for 5 days the judge kept 'shutting me down' and instructing the jury to 'disregard' what ever i had said i kept getting a sentence or two in here and there that 'put the skunk in the jury box' as they say...
   because i had 'admitted to guilt' (was even on video tape and called the sheriff myself lol) the judge basically instructed the jury to convict...
   the conservative madera co jury came back with a unanimous acquittal...it was a unique jury nullification case...
   but you would never know what im about to tell you if you relied on norml's 'official' press releases about the trial/verdict etc...
   which is that the 'skunk' i through in the jury box every chance i got was that we all have the self evident inherent human right to posses seeds and grow plants for our own use in effort to satisfy our needs to live...
   my point is that we are in this mess imo do to our own negligence in that we have all along been framing this issue wrong or allowing it be framed wrong etc...
   our corpsgov relishes in the fact that we help them keep the question away from human rights and only asked in terms of 'should weed be legalized/regulated' etc...
   what if?
   what if the nation question to the public jury was 'is possessing seeds and growing plants, 'any' plants (in effort to meet your own needs in order to 'live') your self evident inherent human right?
   would things be different now?
   its not to late to make this happen...​
   
   
   
   

i'm thinking of helping to put the measure below on the ballot in my state...

The Lake County 'Right to Grow Plants' Human Rights Initiative.


Whereas on this day in the State of California the people of the County of Lake do hereby find that:

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for people to reaffirm and reestablish the fundamental human rights that they are endowed, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's origins entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of humankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to come forward in reestablishment.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all humans are created equal, that they are naturally endowed with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to re-declare and reestablish the inherent human rights that would intrinsically correct such governmental negligence, and to reconstitute such in a form as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness, and in accordance with the 9th amendment of the constitution of the United State of America:
Amendment IX
"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."

Whereas disregard and contempt for certain human rights have resulted in barbarous acts which have outraged the conscience of humankind, and the advent of a world in which human beings shall enjoy freedom of speech and belief and freedom from fear and want has been proclaimed as the highest aspiration of the common people, it has become necessary to reaffirm and specifically constitute that:
1.(a)
Humans are naturally endowed with the fundamental right to posses seeds of and partner with and grow the plants of this earth for their own uses as individuals in pursuit of life and in effort to live, and that such basic human rights exist and are held in perpetuity outside of the constitutional responsibility of government to protect an individuals right to engage in commerce.
1.(b)
Any and all existing County, State or Federal laws where such conflicts may arise with the herein declared human rights are to be set aside depending on if the individual circumstance determines that such conflicts are occurring outside of a 'commerce' related activity as defined herein, and so for the expressed purposes of this document the word "commerce" shall be taken to mean:

'The buying and selling of goods in any form, as between individual humans, and in direct reference to the exchange of United States currency for such goods or services.'