In House Genetics Thread

Dividedsky

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Genetics will matter most when it comes to frosty buds, almost any product designed to add trichomes is a marketing scam. As long as you give the plant a decent environment and all the food it needs you will end up with nearly the maximum amount of frost that the genetics will allow. Also dont be surprised the find certain phenos of strains that dont have good bag appeal, pretty much every pack of seeds from any breeder will have a few. Like the others said it looks great and healthy.
Genetics and environment...#1...there's always phenos in packs that usually don't make the cut. Just cull those and its cuts and keep the best. You don't want to fuck with snake oils that promise better trichome production. Remember years ago products like bloombastic, rocks resonator, etc. Stay away from those types of booster/hardening products, they usually have very harsh ingredients that contain metals. All you need is a proper npk ratio and dialed in environment and you're good to go!
 

ketamine_disposal_unit

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OK, I've never done coco so I have no advice in regards to feeds and strength. Them boosters usually mess shit up for me, I just micro dose with PK boosters, silica and cal mag and kept my ppms around 800 and lower base feed and micro dose some pk after week 4. Boosters don't go in till after week 4 and I use them to just bump the p & k ratio a bit from the base feed. Regardless you will finish fine mate, the budsites look good, and them crispy leaves are just gonna get worse, but give them some love, outdoors is nature, indoors is nurture
Im never too sure. Thats comforting. Another grow i had this same issue with leaves but i wasnt sure if it was effecting the final outcome of terps etc of the buds.
 

colocowboy

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Alrighty I took some pics in the tent tonight, unfortunately I didn't take any photos in veg or the first few weeks of flower when it was healthy.

I'm just into week 5 of flower

Here's a closeup of a PKBR bud to show the deficiency:





Here's the Twisted Helix next to it, looking fine:





Interestingly; here's an Orange Cheesecake from Conscious Genetics, the one cola that's in between the LED and HPS is preying towards the LED and is turning purple in the middle of the fanleaves and the rest of the plant under the HPS is not turning purple: (thats the PKBR in the bottom of the pic)






So I'm starting to wonder, is the LED fucking up the plant? Is it the nutes? The Twisted Helix stretched so much and is like, 10cm away from the LED panel on some heads and is totally fine and not even showing any signs of bleaching. I had this a similiar problem with another PKBR in another tent, French Cookes and Afghanica seed under my other LED last grow so I'm wondering if I'm doing something wrong with the lights?! I'm actually surprised at how little this PKBR stretched indoors compared to it's outdoors mother, which stretched almost as much as the Twisted Helix mother but had way tighter internodal spacing.

am confuse.
You’re going magnesium deficient, also check your ph and leaf surface temperatures across the canopy. You shouldn’t be more than a degree or two off ambient.
 

ketamine_disposal_unit

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You’re going magnesium deficient, also check your ph and leaf surface temperatures across the canopy. You shouldn’t be more than a degree or two off ambient.
Hot tip. Thankyou heaps. Im not confident to identify these deficiencies. We're coming into winter now. Tent temps are about 20-24°c

I'll top feed some Mg to this plant. The others seem fine.
 

Moabfighter

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You guys know how to turn a meh day into a better one. I have all these plants but not a nug to be found to chief on for 420. Should’ve planned this shit to have some ready for today. Ah well. Next year. Have about a pound at dads because I dont like to shit where I sleep and haven’t felt like going over the last few days. I did atleast pinch a few buds and run that greasy love juice all over my skin so atleast I smelled like a gangsta everywhere I went. Dividedky if you want a cut of that ATG scotti shoot me an addy sorry I not got back to your PM been all over the east coast the last week or two man sorry but I got you on it have 3 rooting now. Killer oat/cereal smelling OG shaped golf ball Nugs. Amazing plant
 

ketamine_disposal_unit

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Pulled down PKBR and Twisted Helix greenhouse plants today. Nice frost grenades.

And another photo of the Twisted Helix lowers because I just cant get enough of it. Hnnng. Man i cant wait for next summer. Might try 4 plants next year. Got so many delicious strains to try.

I got some CalMag and added to the regime to help the indoor PKBR as well as a good flush. I looked at my nute chart and I realised its cooked because it came from my friend who uses PGR's and always pulls at 7 weeks, so when I dropped out the PGR I didn't take into consideration the lengthened flowering time so some additives I've been adding in around week 4 should really be coming in around week 6-7 so I think that might one of the main issues I'm having. Have adjusted it all now and fingers crossed it's the end of that problem.

Thanks for the help fellas.
 

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Moabfighter

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Man does anyone have a keeper cut of Slurricane they’d share? I popped another bean, still hard as a rock doing nothing. Man. I’ve NEVER complained about bean germination before. It’s fucking easy to do. Put in paper towel, wet, in bag. Put bag in dvd case, set case on lights for tiniest cunt hair of warmth, explosive tails in 24hrs. These Slurricane beans suck dick. I want a refund. They won’t germinate
 

Big Sparks

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I totally feel your pain! I have still not been able to get a Slurricane ix bean to fully germinate and pop its head above soil. %98 percent so far were total duds. Still have 2-3 to go but I'm not optimistic at this point.
Hopefully you can find someone with an available cut. Shoot I myself would be interested in a cut!
 

LeftOurEyes

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Man does anyone have a keeper cut of Slurricane they’d share? I popped another bean, still hard as a rock doing nothing. Man. I’ve NEVER complained about bean germination before. It’s fucking easy to do. Put in paper towel, wet, in bag. Put bag in dvd case, set case on lights for tiniest cunt hair of warmth, explosive tails in 24hrs. These Slurricane beans suck dick. I want a refund. They won’t germinate
One thing I would recommend is to soak them first for 1-3 days in a cup with just a little water and a squirt of some 3% peroxide before putting them in the paper towel.

Some seeds have thicker shells and don't crack as easy. I've had problems with these types of seeds almost rotting and growing mold before they want to crack open. The peroxide helps chemically scarify the seeds a little to help the water get through the shell and will kill the stuff that would grow mold in the beginning giving the seeds more time to soak.

I didn't have a lot of problems before I used this method, but every once in awhile I would. I lost a whole pack of Seed Junky's Animal Mints because they were soooo slow to pop like this. Now I only have a rare one like once or twice a year not pop on me.
 

Moabfighter

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If germ rates are that low you should tell him and get some extra packs.
Hit him up on IG. Explained I didn’t want to complain however I was 0/3, in theory 4 on the “Slurricane ix” when Slurricane pops fine and every other inhouse I’ve popped has been fine. Just not this Slurricane Ix. Nothin to say back. Anyway. I’ll try the peroxide but man if I gotta add shit to my water just to get the dang seed to start it’s first day of life.... that sucks.
 

Moabfighter

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I've soaked three Slurricane IX beans and all three came up. They are from the original drop in Feb 2019.
Wish I had that pack and wish I wasn’t having first time germination problems with these Rico Suave fancy expensive beans. My pack is from the Black Friday sale Slurricane Ix with platinum gorilla fem advertised freebies with it. How was your Slurricane fam? Can you agree it’s damn worth seeking out? I love the stuff. Candy for grownups IMO

I’m really not trying to overly complain or make any stories up. I just want to grow a killer Slurricane plant again lol because the last one was the dankest marijuana I’ve ever seen smelt or smoked. It starts with a bean and these IX beans just ‘aint starting lol

ain’t. Gosh dang fucking east coast hick lingo lolololol. My bad.
 
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Observe & Report

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How was your Slurricane fam? Can you agree it’s damn worth seeking out?
One seedling died, one had OGish terps and threw lower balls and the other had deep red berry funk and hard nugs. I didn't keep it because I had a Bodhi LA Affie x Wookie keeper with similar but better terps. It's like a deep red berry with anise and asafoedita funk.

Looking forward to more when this packs number comes up again in the bean cracking lottery but I'm not sure it's really much better than other gear in my fridge that I got for a lot less.

I stopped buying gear with three digit prices but I made an exception for Slurricane IX just to "vote with my wallet" against knock-off brands like Archive.
 

grimweeder

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For those of you that have grown PKBR before, whats the deal with it regarding nutes?

I grew a pkbr plant outside in a pot full of horse & chicken manure no problems. I cloned it and grew a plant inside, thru veg it waa fine and very healthy. In flower for the first 3 weeks or so it was also very healthy and preying etc. Come week 4 the leaves start to turn purple which i think "cool" but then they just start to mottle and turn brown and look generally pretty sad compared to the rest of the tent which is all fine (another 5 plants all different strains). Are they particularly hungry in your experience or am i overfeeding them something? Or do they just naturally fade a whole lot? I cant figure it out, like i said all my other strains are doing fine but pkbr is just looking particularly unwell.
The 2 pkbr I jus did were both bright green and the leaves stayed quite deep green throughout veg and flower. They were really healthy all throughout. Revegged the best one that had a bo funk to it, it’s super dank it revegged an was ready to clone in 4 weeks and it’s now on flower again as it seemed a shame to jus clone it an Chuck it away it’s not even been 2 months really since harvest (end of feb) so it really wanted to live it seems. They didn’t seem that hungry or that light feeders jus average really although they could take a lot of feed an didn’t ever loot over fed at all or suffer any nute burn of any type at all through flower. I ran them in coco jus fed house an garden nutes an a few other random bits an pieces.

But no purple at all on any of the leaves or buds on either plant. Only did 2 tho so maybe il see more purple etc in the future.
 

joecanna17

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I appreciate the suggestion but it was actually the Gorilla Butter side of the cross that I was/am most interested in. I have wanted to do a Peanut Butter Breath cross for a long time and Gorilla Butter is one of the best. But if I have to get something else, I will take your suggestion into consideration. Thanks!
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Not sure if you're aware, but if that gorilla butter isn't available, 3Thirteen seeds also did a fem gg4xpbb cross called Greases Pieces. You can get them as a 3pk freebie, if you order a 3 Thirteen pack at GLG.
 
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