In Reference to AN PH Perfect Products...

NebulousPLM

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Just received this E-Mail from AN. I thought it was kinda interesting.
Thought I would share it with you guys!

Also, kinda frustrating since I was getting inconsistent PPM readings, so I assumed it was my PPM Pen.
Well, my PPM pen can't be calibrated - so I went out and bought a new $70 PPM pen.

While that's nice, I wish I would've known this before I bought the fucking pen...

"The pH perfect formulas contain organic components (Humic and Fulvic acids, organic Wet Betty and amino acids), which are not good conductors of electricity making EC (ppm) readings inaccurate and unreliable, growers feeding the pH perfect formulas based on EC readings tend to under feed their plants, we recommend that you feed at the rates suggested in the nutrient calculator http://www.advancednutrients.com/nutrient-calculator/, (it is the only nutrient calculator that we offer at this time), for the week that the plants are in (it is customizable, you can add and subtract weeks as required to accommodate your strain requirements, enter the amount of water that you will be using, and choose between standard or metric measurements)


Base Nutrients Directions: Cutting and Seedlings(2 sets of leaves): 1 ml/L | Small Plants(3-4sets of leaves): 2 ml/L | Mature Plants(5+ sets of leaves): 4 ml/L

Supplements Directions: Apply at 2 mL/liter every week during both Veg and Bloom"
 

NebulousPLM

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Well that was nice of them to drop you an email and tell you to use up your nutrients as fast as possible so you can go buy more...awww so nice of them.
I just think that it's strange that they say you shouldn't use a PPM meter, when growers like to be specific, and track things like that. I originally emailed them about a more detailed calculator that I saw on a forum a while back... And that's what they sent me
 

az2000

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""" not good conductors of electricity... growers feeding the pH perfect formulas based on EC readings tend to under feed their plants, """
Does that sound backwards to anyone else? If it conducts less electricity, wouldn't the EC read lower? Causing people to feed more?
 

Resinhound

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Does that sound backwards to anyone else? If it conducts less electricity, wouldn't the EC read lower? Causing people to feed more?
I run 3ml/liter of bioag pure fulvic acid and it does almost nothing to my ec...so ya it seems like bs to me.They just want people to burn through the stuff as fast as possible it seems.
 

MisterBlah

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Their arguments are backwards. That is, wrong. First off, lets assume the first thing they said is correct.

organic components (Humic and Fulvic acids, organic Wet Betty and amino acids), which are not good conductors of electricity making EC (ppm) readings inaccurate and unreliable
If they are not good conductors of electricity, then you would need MORE of them in solution to achieve the same EC reading. EC scales mostly equally with TDS(all the conversions I've seen tell you that, but really, it doesn't, though that's a discussion for another day). So, if your claims are true, that they are all bad conductors of electricity, then the EC readings and corresponding TDS conversion would be LOWER than the actual TDS. This would cause growers to OVERFEED.
 
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Dr. Who

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AssholeNutrients Thread again? Oh fuck'in please!

Lying,Molesting, cartoon charactered, overpriced, watered down garbage in too many unneeded bottles, to do what I can do with home made soil and taste better with no flush needed...Nutrients?

Ask yourself WHY?
 
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