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Rhodes55

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So I was doing some more reading and really trying to understand what happened to my girls. What do y’all think about nutrient burn? I know we all thought is was calmag deficiency (and it may still be, that comes in today) but like I mentioned in previous post, I used the recommended amount of the General Hydroponics bloom and ripening when I always used 1/4 or 1/2 recommended before. I did that for 3 straight waterings so I feel I might of over fed them. Nothing has gotten worse since the flush. I’m planning on flushing again today or tomorrow, or depending on what feedback I get from y’all. Let me know your thoughts.
 

Rhodes55

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Girls are looking thirsty, leafs drooping a bit. Think I’m going to hit them with plain water again. Calmag is here, let me know if I should test nutrients and calmag soon.
 

m99smith

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Girls are looking thirsty, leafs drooping a bit. Think I’m going to hit them with plain water again. Calmag is here, let me know if I should test nutrients and calmag soon.
1ml of calmag per L of water should be good hope it is a calmag defecancy because that's easy to handle
 

Rhodes55

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1/9/20 - ALRIGHT! Ready for an update. So the girls haven’t got better or worse, stayed about the same with two distilled water flushes. Going to go water them now cause they need it. We’re going to do 1/2 maybe 3/4 of recommend from general hydroponics, then also add 1/2 maybe 3/4 tsp of calmag. Really don’t want to overdo the nuts as the plants seemed to have loved the distilled water. Will get some pics while watering and update how much nuts I really used.

Update - just mixed everything, going with 1/2 of everything. Figured it’s easier to add more then remove and I would hate to get nut burn this far into flower.

Something else I’d like to call out that may or may not had something to do with the discoloration. For the 6 pots through veg and beginning flower I used about 2 gallons of distilled water, wasn’t much run off but I was okay cause the plants were super healthy. I started doing some reading that I should be using a gallon each! And definitely having runoff from the smart pots. So I ended up using 3/4 gallons for the 6 plants and made sure there was plenty of run off where I actually had to use a shop vac to suck up the access. Today, I went back to just 2 gallons, some run off, not really any though with 1/2 recommended nuts. Don’t want to shock the girls as there getting close. We’ll see if less water & nuts is more.
 
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Rhodes55

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1/12/20 - Again, plants haven’t shown any better or worse signs. They need a watering again, going to bump nuts & calmag up to 3/4 recommended. Here’s some updates pics, the discoloration was from previous weeks, nothing has got worse. It’s also weird that it’s only in 2 of the plants. Sticking with less is more for watering, not watering to drain and using less water as I’ve read and mentioned in my last post. *What works for this situation. 1/3-1/2 gallon for each 3gallon fabric pot.*
Also, about 40days into flower.

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Hust17

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How often are you water at this point?

I think you might have some burn starting on some tips now, I would lower overall ppm while raising CalMag even more :)
 

Rhodes55

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How often are you water at this point?

I think you might have some burn starting on some tips now, I would lower overall ppm while raising CalMag even more :)
Thanks for the suggestion. But like I said there are no color differences since I called it out weeks ago. They’ve had straight distilled water and just got 1/2 of recommended nuts, very much doubt any burn is happening. Actually I can assure you.
 

70's natureboy

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It's a good thing you quit feeding this past week or you would have seen them go backwards some more. I used to call that phoshorus burn, not sure if that's the exact problem but it comes from giving too much bloom nutes. If you go by the GH schedule the plants will bet that rusty burn. I think it was mydank that caught that a week ago. I skimmed through the thread and didn't see how strong you are mixing the nutes.Your buds still look very nice. If they haven't had nutes for a week I might give them a 1/4 dose but they don't look to be lacking anything, just a little rusty that will later turn crispy.
 

Rhodes55

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It's a good thing you quit feeding this past week or you would have seen them go backwards some more. I used to call that phoshorus burn, not sure if that's the exact problem but it comes from giving too much bloom nutes. If you go by the GH schedule the plants will bet that rusty burn. I think it was mydank that caught that a week ago. I skimmed through the thread and didn't see how strong you are mixing the nutes.Your buds still look very nice. If they haven't had nutes for a week I might give them a 1/4 dose but they don't look to be lacking anything, just a little rusty that will later turn crispy.
I was always doing 1/2-3/4 GH recommended throughout grow. Then once I transitioned to flower the gave them the full GH recommended and that’s when the problems started. This is common following GH?

They got 1/2 GH&calmag on the 9th and 3/4 GH&calmag this morning. They have around a month left and want to make sure they are getting the nuts they need. I didn’t see any negative effects since the 9th, why I figured I could bump back up to 3/4 today. Lemme know what you think.
 

70's natureboy

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I have the best overall success with the Lucas formula. I usually use 5 ml micro and 10 ml bloom per gallon. That gets me around 1 EC with my tap water. I rarely use the 8/16 mix. I would recommend the 5/10 mix every other time. I hate to see you mess up sour D. My sour D is the most nute sensitive strain I grow. That's the only reason I looked at this thread. :)
 

Rhodes55

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I have the best overall success with the Lucas formula. I usually use 5 ml micro and 10 ml bloom per gallon. That gets me around 1 EC with my tap water. I rarely use the 8/16 mix. I would recommend the 5/10 mix every other time. I hate to see you mess up sour D. My sour D is the most nute sensitive strain I grow. That's the only reason I looked at this thread. :)
You don’t use floragro at all? What about micro & bloom with calmag? And can you elaborate on 8/16 & 5/10 mix, have no idea what your saying lol
 
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Rhodes55

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1/14/19 - Weirdly enough, I think it is a nute burn friends. The other 4 are *slightly* burning (yellowing) on the leaf tips. Nothing crazy by any means. This came after 3/4 recommended nutes, going to go back to 1/2 recommended & 1/2 cal mag next watering. UPDATE: pic below. Sorry for burple, but wanted y’all to see.

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m99smith

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1/14/19 - Weirdly enough, I think it is a nute burn friends. The other 4 are *slightly* burning (yellowing) on the leaf tips. Nothing crazy by any means. This came after 3/4 recommended nutes, going to go back to 1/2 recommended & 1/2 cal mag next watering.
So you use the 3 part flora series I used the 1 part FloraNova Grow for veg and the one part FloraNova Bloom for flower and I ad calmag every 2-3 waterings I used to use the 3 part but the 1 part is way easier to use less bullshit
 

Rhodes55

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So you use the 3 part flora series I used the 1 part FloraNova Grow for veg and the one part FloraNova Bloom for flower and I ad calmag every 2-3 waterings I used to use the 3 part but the 1 part is way easier to use less bullshit
See next post!
 

Rhodes55

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So I wanted to add the nutes I’m using so y’all can see what I’m referring to when I say recommended dose. Also just added the real feeding/watering schedule so you can see the real numbers of everything actually used. I’ve used all 3 since the beginning, just adding in cal mag these last two feedings cause we thought it was a deficiency there.


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m99smith

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So I wanted to add the nutes I’m using so y’all can see what I’m referring to when I say recommended dose. Also just added the real feeding/watering schedule so you can see the real numbers of everything actually used. I’ve used all 3 since the beginning, just adding in cal mag these last two feedings cause we thought it was a deficiency there.


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Yeah I used that stuff befor now I use this
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