indoor grow plan

hello there my fellow growers!!
so why am i here?ofcourse for present to all of you a grow plan which can help me and all of you.
Any suggestions and comments is a must.
so here we are
my grow plan starts with a grow room that suites at least 10 plants im thinking i make it my own or i will buy it ready to go
<any good grow room making of is welcome and ofcourse any good ready to go grow room is welcome as well just place links>
About lights i thinking to use a hps 600 watt from start until the end<flowering period>with a time schedule starting at 18/24 and in the flowering period 12/12
<any suggestions again is welcome>
About air intake and out im thinking to use 4 pc fans 12v 2 for intake and 2 for outtake
<you know already ...suggestions
Seeds wow that word im really super confused about what strain i choose im thinking an early autoflowering skunk feminized but which one???
Nutrients im thinking not to use none of them ...what do you think is possible without them?and if not what do you suggest?in my opinion
im thinking to use bio grow in vegi period and and bio bloom in flowering period .biobizz rules yo!
Soil im thinking about an all in one from a local store
about watering i will use bottled water which has controlled ph and i will water them with some kind of waterer
and last for germination method i will use wet paper cotton and when is sprouted i will put them in a 10lt pots for avoid stress moving the plant from small pot to a bigger
So thats all for now folks lets make it happen!!

I'd suggest you have another realistic look at your plans otherwise you will cook the fuck out of your plants as to your light cycle 18/24 (that's not possible ) 18/6 or 24/0 then like you'd said 12/12 for flower never done autos my self but I prefer to change the light spectrum manually regarding your intake / exhaust is far too weak for a 600 hps you going to want a air cooled hood or cool tube to cool it then you'll need a inline fan 4-6" or bigger if you want to get rid of that hot air if odor is a problem which with skunk I'd say it might be you'll need a carbon filter to eliminate to stink and with germination either use the wet paper towel method or the cotton wool don't use both together if that's what you meant

thnks for the reply thcbrain yes i made a mistake with 18/24 i wanted to say 18/6
in your opinion what is better 18/6 or 24/24?
about lighting what do you suggest me for 10 northen lights at vegi stage?
is it possible not to use hps and go only with cfl?
and about nutrients what do you think is the best time to start them ?<my opinion is 2 weeks after germination>
thnks in advance and sorry for lost of questions

A shit ton of cfls for 10 plants!! Look in the lighting section there is a bit for cfl lighting I prefer 18/6 it worked well for me during my first veg and now on my second I'm doing a 24/0 I've read it speeds up growth plus I don't have a second timer to put it on a schedule so ill tell you in 8 weeks when I have finished vegging how it gets on nutes I have only used vitalink for coco and will be using pk13/14 next week if your going to give nutes after 2 weeks from germ give them only light nutes as you will burn them inside out if you give them full dose I didn't give mine nutes till around the 3rd or 4th week your feeder leaves will support the plant to begin with also if you have nutes in your soil you want to make sure you know what's in there so if you get deficiencys you'll know how to cure them

so i think i will take the solution of (MH) light which i think is the best for vegi stage and also for flowering but how many watts i need or how many bulbs to take care 10 plants?

Get yourself 1000w dimmable ballast. Get an air cooled hood. And 3 6 inch inline fans. One is for your hood only. The other 2 are for intake and exhaust. Make sure the hood has a tube on either side of your room so it never draws off the room air. Use a 400 mh OR conversion bulb if you don't have ballast that fires both, tho most dimmable ones do. Veg with 400, bloom with 600 or 1000 hp your choice. Use ro water only. Depending on your location or how cool your neighbors are you may need a scrubber the last few weeks. Good luck

chernobe you just said it all you completely cover all my questions but this plan is the expensive one and ofcourse the right one if you have any good links where i can found this gear in logical prices you are welcome to place them here.
ps:with this gear what do you think can i grow more than 10 plants?

newstart21 said:

chernobe you just said it all you completely cover all my questions but this plan is the expensive one and ofcourse the right one if you have any good links where i can found this gear in logical prices you are welcome to place them here.
ps:with this gear what do you think can i grow more than 10 plants?

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You would have to tell us what the size of your growing space is in order to know how much light you need. I never grew autos so I don't know how big they get but if they get normal size I guess you probably couldn't get more than 4 or 5 in a 3'x3' space, which would be what a 600w HPS would cover well. I wouldn't get a MH. Just too inefficient and too much UV output. If you start them in big pots you'll have to make sure you don't water too often when they're small. It would take a long time to dry out with just seedlings in them. About the soil, if you just buy cheap potting soil in a regular store it will probably be infested with fungus gnat eggs and you'll never get rid of them. I would get coco bricks instead if you can find them, and use hydroponic nutrients, discarding the runoff after watering. Also, if it's autos you can flower them under 18 hours unless you're concerned about high power usage. They'll grow faster. In fact you could even use 24 hours if you want.

18/6 for veg. 12/ 12 for flower then 10/14 for late flower. heres my grow plan. 2 rooms. 12 foot long by 5 foot wide table with 90 plants in 2 gallon pots. 6 gavitas. central heat and air plus 18,000 btu mini split for each room to help my central air. 7 to 10 days veg. 12 to 14 pounds every 10 weeks.

hello bobcajun i have a closet who is 5x5 thats why i ask about how many plants can place there because i want to grow more than 10 plants is this possible ot at least tryable?

you said no to mh what do you suggest for veg?

about coco bricks are you talking for the whole life of plant from seed to flowering?and not use not at all soil?

by the way i change my mind and i will go for just feminized seeds..do you have any good to suggest me?at this time im more close to royal queen seeds northen light

and for last if you have experience do you know how much yield i can gain per plant?

sorry for too many questions but this is my second grow and i want to do it professional

You can get a decent entry-level 1000w HPS/MH kit for about $225, I have the 600w version and have used it for 2 rounds now without issue.
http://www.amazon.com/iPower-GLSETX1000DHMAC6-Digital-Dimmable-1000-Watt/dp/B005F6BI1Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1444677943&sr=8-1&keywords=1000w+grow+light+kit

For seeds, I was very happy with my last order from Midweek Song. Nice freebies from them they let you pick yourself, and if you check the promo list you can often find freebies from the breeder too. I got 2 nice free Fems from Barney's Farm when I grabbed a 10-pack of Cookies Kush, I think they were Red Diesel and Critical Kush.

I'll avoid the usual yield joke, "about a pound", and just say hope for .5g a watt and see what happens lol. Seems like a very meager goal, but there are so many variables and pitfalls it's just not possible to guess.

Get an HID system for veg and flower and the proper ventilation to go with it. Cfl's will cost too much(bulbs and electric bill) for 10 plants. You could veg with a small amount of cfl's for a few weeks and flower them right away if you want.

newstart21 said:

hello bobcajun i have a closet who is 5x5 thats why i ask about how many plants can place there because i want to grow more than 10 plants is this possible ot at least tryable?

you said no to mh what do you suggest for veg?

about coco bricks are you talking for the whole life of plant from seed to flowering?and not use not at all soil?

by the way i change my mind and i will go for just feminized seeds..do you have any good to suggest me?at this time im more close to royal queen seeds northen light

and for last if you have experience do you know how much yield i can gain per plant?

sorry for too many questions but this is my second grow and i want to do it professional

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Yeah you could probably fit 10 plants in there, or at least 9, 3 by 3 square. If you want to grow more but smaller plants you could do that but probably not with autos because you can't control what size they are when they flower. I used to grow 6 x 6 in a 3 foot square space, so 36 plants, but I only grew them to about 1 foot tall before flowering them.

I just recommend using HPS for the entire grow cycle, veg and flower. There's no need to use two different types of lamps. That way they're be accustomed to the intense HPS light right from the start and won't get burned from going from a less intense type of light to the HPS. The thing about using different spectrums for veg and flower is crap and just overcomplicates things. HPS is most efficient so using a less efficient light source for veg is just a waste of money on power. I have even used a very small 70 watt HPS for starting cuttings. Worked great. I made a box about 2 feet cube of plywood and painted it all white and made a hole on top so I could sit a fixture on it and have the light going inside but the heat coming off the top of the fixture outside so it didn't get too hot inside.

The coco is good for the entire grow cycle too. Soil is just a mess to work with and you really don't know what's in it. Besides, why lug big heavy bags of soil around when you can just carry little bricks of completely dry coco instead? It swells right up to a large volume when you add water to it. You have to use a complete fertilizer though because it contains no nutrients itself. As I said, a hydroponic fertilizer.

I didn't speak about how much light you would need for the 5'x5' space earlier but I would think 1000 would be right, or maybe two 600s. You could probably even use two 400s if you want to save on power and reduce heat.

Regarding the strain, Northern Lights would probably be alright. It's not a very exotic strain but it's pretty easy to grow and performs well in indoor grows. For yield, it depends on the amount of light mostly. Should be able to get at least a pound though. Not per plant but for the whole space.

I would make a platform out of plywood (coated with shellac so it won't mold) with polyethylene sheet over it with the board angled slightly toward the front and the sides and back of the sheet turned up to keep the water from running off the sides and the front part folded down over the front edge of the board so it directs the water into a container under the front of the board with the nutrient solution in it, like a Rubbermaid storage container, fairly short to conserve on vertical space. You would probably want a small fountain pump with a hose on it to pump the water up to the pots. I taped the hose to a long stick so I could get it to the back pots. You just plug the pump into a power strip with an on/off button so you can turn the pump on and off as required with your other hand. As the plants use water you'll have to top up the nutrient solution to it's original level with plain water of course. You would change the solution completely every week or two. Weekly would be best.

i really appreciate it this helpfull guide bobcajun...and something for last that i want to understand the matter with electricity bill correct me if im wrong

18hrsx400w=7200/1000=7.2kwh. times the 7.2 by the amount my electricity cost for one unit and i have one day
my kwh costs 0.09461 so 7.2x0.09461=0.681192x30=20.43576
so my monthly costs will be 20 euros?

thnks splfreak but seems this one not work for me

an update
im going to buy northen lights and amnesia haze from midweek song from this banner of this site
any experiences of this store is welcome

I like them, try to look at the breeders offers to get a few more freebies if you can

newstart21 said:

an update
im going to buy northen lights and amnesia haze from midweek song from this banner of this site
any experiences of this store is welcome

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Hey dude I would recommend a digital ballast , quantum has a good switchable one. I use the magnum hoods , t hey work great. For fans you can cheap out on a setuo.if fan noise won't be an issue. Check out windking, they are the old value line brand. Ehydoponics.com is a great place to start, I use their brick and mortar stores in my area but this is their website. If you need used gear and you in the usa, pm me a friend has shut down and has many things for sale. Craigslist is good too depending in what area you are in