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GrowLightResearch

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-almost all of the popular meanwells dont dim below 10% anyway, regardless of what type of dimming you use - easily verified by datasheet. you dont "lose" the bottom 10% as it doesnt dim below 10% whether you give it 1K ohm or 10K ohm

youve already demonstrated that unlike many hundreds of actual growers out there you dont understand how to safely use a low voltage power supply to wire LEDs in parallel - you are simply incapable of understanding how this can be accomplished despite everyone's best efforts to explain the very simple concept of matching a driver to a COBs voltage range.

in this thread youve also demonstrated you have no idea how drivers and chips work in regard to forward voltage
You just continue to give bad advice.

Example: "as it doesnt dim below 10% whether you give it 1K ohm or 10K ohm"

I just tested an HLG-40-54B driving two BXEB-L0560Z-35E2000-C-B3 in series.

I was able to run them below 5 mA (0.06%) both with a resistor and a DC voltage. The LED strips were unstable at 3.5mA
With a voltage of ≈0.15v
With a resistance of ≈1,200Ω I first used a 3KΩ and then added a 2KΩ 5% resistor.
Going below 3.33 mA the LEDs turned off (0.04%).
you dont "lose" the bottom 10% as it doesnt dim below 10% whether you give it 1K ohm or 10K ohm


I have one running at less than 0.06% and you say you can't get an HLG below 10% with resistance and voltage? What's your problem?

in this thread youve also demonstrated you have no idea how drivers and chips work in regard to forward voltage
Correction: I've demonstrated how things work and/or are supposed to be done. You demonstrated you do not understand.



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Test Setup
Upper Left: Bench adjustable power supply to vary the dimmer voltage 0-10 VDC
Center: resistors connect to the HLG dimmer wires in Panavise.
Lower Righ: , current shunt to measure current and the two EB Gen 2 strips lit very dimly.

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Two Resistors on HLG Dim wires.
Bottom Center to Botton right, EB Gen 2 Strip very dim @ less than 5mA.

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GrowLightResearch

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that only works with meanwell drivers that have the "smart dimming function"

e.g. HLG-240H-36D
You are correct. I was wrong, haste makes waste. The Mean Well Australia site said "0-10 V Dimmer" available from their distributors. No part number, just a small photo.
The DAP Dali dimmer also looks the same but it's 0-10v PWM.
I use a dirt cheap Atmel Attiny417 which has a DAC.
 

ChaosHunter

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6% or 10 % is just splitting hairs. Your on a growing site trying to justify your electrical engineering knowledge and none of us could give two shits less about. Your in the wrong section of the Internet attacking a well respected vendor in his own thread.

Make your own thread or go to a site dedicated to LED light building and argue over there.
 

ChaosHunter

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Lookout @ChaosHunter looks like you are the next one to get picked apart.
I could care less. Most of us on here MacGyver or Outlaw engineer our setups. To argue over a Watt, Par or Ohm in a pot growing form is meaningless to us honestly.

If I ask any of the vendors here what I need for a given space I'm going to get recommendations and go from there. My QB304s on a HLG 120h-1400a driver dims down to 75w and goes up to 185w, it does all I need it to do for my given space and grow style.

I'm sorry but @GrowLightResearch be leaved knowledge is irrelevant and just not needed or wanted here.
 

swedsteven

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15170042909552037503174.jpg The 2× 200 watts led that I hack give me
More lux at 18 inch then my 400watts vl timber grow light I back the hack led up to 24 inch to have the same number
60 000lux

But the timber is spreading the light more evenly .15170028256111585843782.jpg
 
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swedsteven

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Here is my next project waiting on the
Citezen1212 clu048 gen5 3000k 90cri to replace those epistar
2 × 300watts fixture 6 cob
@50watts each cob
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Right now they pushing 30 000lux at 18 inch with the citezen it will double that at 24 inch !!!
 
Will an hlg600 36a run 32 1212 cobs? Will 2 1212's with holders fit on a single 120mm heatsink? Does this sound like a good setup for a 16 square foot area?
 
I know they aren't drilled and tapped for two cobs. What im asking is, can i make 2 cobs fit on a 120mm heatsink? What about 140 mm heatsink?
 
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