This is CCGNZ I've never been on a forum, I'm a 55yr old oldschool outdoor guy. i have vast exp. over 30 outdoor grows and have run at least 100 strains outside in the northeast I've also ran over 30 different breeders and done bus. with over 10 different online websites
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ThaDonDaDa
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What strains are you thinking of running outdoor this year?
Churchlady
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Huh.
Im running 10 strains of CopyCat GEN(CCCrunch,PRKSkunk,KhalifaKush,LAPopRocks,Sh.Temple,N3drz,Goob3rz,ProjX,MRBigStuff,andRuntzRemix. INHouseGenSugarCane,BarneysVanKush+LibHaze,DankGenSherbPebbles,GHouseChemDog,CSIMendoPurps,HSCVanFrosting,ExGENScoops,OmuertaGen72Virgins+ThousOaksOregonGreenSeedTwoDogs+ForgetfulCindy. Autos areMuayThaiFlash,SourDurbCookiesRebelGrown,GBerryOGDPassion, andCremeDeLaChemMeph. How's that for a crop?ccguns
Romulanman
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25 plants outdoors huh? You lookin to make some weight?
We Can Make Sandwiches
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Not here for drama concerning that, I'm aware some people not into him, can understand polite mdwestern people think he's cocky, but I'm a eastcoast guy and I'm not offended that's how it is around here, I'm 50 miles from Copy and the guy works his ass off. He runs his own facility and has done time in prison for this plant.ccguns
Herb & Suds
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Your skin better be real thick cause that isn't the perception most folks who don't live fifty miles from him haveGood luck with your grow
Can't say I'll be watching all the same
More like 80 plants plus cloning , sea of green to the max,bust ass all summer+fall(grow+job),lay off in winterTRIM,TRIM,TRIM!ccguns
Just joined Lst week,already knew the drama existed concerning him,but he's always been cool w/me ,I'm older than him and speak the same language,like I said i'm well aware eastcoast accents and mannerisms tend to offend I can't fix that other than being accountable for my actions, But if you look into the guy, he hustles, you have to give props to people who can grind + work their tail off thats the eastcoast way HUSTLE to get yourself ahead in this life.ccguns
Good luck with your grow
,Can't say I'll be watching all the same
Herb & Suds
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HUSTLER would be an appropriate term in my neck of the woods 
I'm not going to endlessly drone on about this matter, joined site to shoot shit after putting in 30 yrs of grows and seedbank purchases. Copy spent time in the can and did'nt rat anyone out so that alone is admirable I know he's cocky everybody regrets things in life .The dude is older now and is just a hard working guy taking care of his family. I'm sure there are a lot of warts on plenty of people in the cannabis industry.ccguns
LeftOurEyes
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I wont "give props" to someone who steals other people's work for a living. I couldn't care less that he is from the east coast or has been to prison. If he works so hard then maybe he should work hard on his own line of genetics.
Herb & Suds
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Sorry I don't do born again
LeftOurEyes
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No naivety here. Honest breeders use others genetics to create their own lines, this guy simply makes a S1 of others work and then sells it. No morals in my view.
This will be my last post concerning Copy.1st of all I already knew the drama before I joined.Secondly when talking sd.banks I have'nt talked or hawked his gear. Knew poss. reaction when stating I'm running some but honestly it performs well. Thirdly when people working in facilities sneak out cuts thats not his fault (not like he has a army of agents working in facilities to steal cuts) they should vet their employees better.If he pays 5000 for a cut its his now. Guy has a vid showing MarcEmory order forms ,he's got 30 yrs inthe game. And lastly the guy is a prof. photographer, talentedDJ, and a snake breeder and anyone who has that many irons in the fire+taking care of a fam is a busy hard worker thats why I respect the dude end of story
LeftOurEyes
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You think cause he paid 5K for each stolen cut that his business practice of making nothing but S1s of the of other people's work makes it all ok? Apparently you have questionable morals as well. I don't care where or how he got the cuts honestly though, the fact that his entire line is just rip-offs of others work alone makes him a scumbag. Make something for yourself if you want to call yourself a breeder.
It takes years for a good breeder to create something that is unique and stable that will stand out. This guy just shows up and in 6 months steals what they have years into. Its easy to have so many irons in the fire when everything is stolen lol. It 's very telling that can't grasp the concept and you think the only reason people don't like the guy is because he is from the east coast. You actually respect the guy because he is a "hard working" thief.
I'm glad the genetics preform well for you though, someone somewhere worked really hard on them before copycat got his hands on them lol.
This bus is in the Wild west phase, there are no patents or copyrights going on here.10 yrs. ago the cops would step on my head and take my house for a grow. You apparently believe everything going on in breeding is all righteous and cumbaya. I've gotten trashy seeds from numerous breeders and I don't run to my computer to trash them cause I understand the game as it exists now its in the infancy stage. there has been plenty of defections and breakups of teams across the board in seed bus. I didnt sign up here to troll and arguew/people, watched the drama and trolling on this site yrs. before I joined. just put in 30yrs growing and trying to buy best seeds and willing to help out when I know something. Maybe in 30 years this market will be where you think it is now.
LeftOurEyes
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You seem to be confused with the difference between legal and moral. What is legal may change in 30 years, but good and bad morals don't change. Just cause it's "the wild west" doesn't make stealing ok, even if it's legal. There are plenty of breeders that he has stolen from that have made IG posts saying how they feel about it.
You may have got trashy seeds from breeders before but all copycat is doing is stealing other breeders work literally. So why not buy from the people he is stealing from instead, and support the actual creators? How would you get burned buying from the breeders he's taking from if you think his stuff is good? Why support a thief, cause he works hard? Just strange logic to me but to each their own.
I do not think that breeding is all righteous, and it never will be. There will always be douche bags like copycat out there when there is big money to be made. There will always be people supporting people like him, and there will always be people like me who never will as well. It's how the world works with everything not just this industry.
All that said the only reason I even commented at all was because you tried saying previously that the reason people don't like copycat is that he is from the east coast and possibly because he had been to prison. That is way off and has nothing to do with the reason most people do not like him lol. You can't just ignore that fact and not expect someone to say something here. Who cares about people's opinions online anyway though? If you like what your growing then that's all that matters, I couldn't care less.
You may have got trashy seeds from breeders before but all copycat is doing is stealing other breeders work literally. So why not buy from the people he is stealing from instead, and support the actual creators? How would you get burned buying from the breeders he's taking from if you think his stuff is good? Why support a thief, cause he works hard? Just strange logic to me but to each their own.
I do not think that breeding is all righteous, and it never will be. There will always be douche bags like copycat out there when there is big money to be made. There will always be people supporting people like him, and there will always be people like me who never will as well. It's how the world works with everything not just this industry.
All that said the only reason I even commented at all was because you tried saying previously that the reason people don't like copycat is that he is from the east coast and possibly because he had been to prison. That is way off and has nothing to do with the reason most people do not like him lol. You can't just ignore that fact and not expect someone to say something here. Who cares about people's opinions online anyway though? If you like what your growing then that's all that matters, I couldn't care less.
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