K
Keenly
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makes you sound very informed 
Iran Update...
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CrackerJax
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Oh so no answer has the mouse ... thought so.
K
Keenly
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no answer? i posted an article that i specifically wanted you to see, you call me a mouse and say i have no response?
your really good at mentally twisting things to make yourself feel good
CrackerJax
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K
Keenly
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fear mongering about Iran is pretty much the point im getting at
medicineman
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Maybe there is hope???
CrackerJax
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So pointing out the OBVIOUS to those actually paying attention is fear mongering?
How bout getting urself informed.
Don't be like Med Man.
Polar bears are NOT going extinct.
How bout getting urself informed.
Don't be like Med Man.
Polar bears are NOT going extinct.
Woomeister
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CrackerJax
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Most of the data shows that PB's have increased dramatically since the 50's or 60's.
Facts are we can't stop the ice from melting up there, no matter how many taxes are collected. What's going to happen IS going to happen.
What will become of the PB's? Unknown...
What will become of human beings? Unknown ...
Hey, I'm glad I ran into you, I read a very interesting article today about ur favorite subject ... methane. Illuminating to say the least.
Facts are we can't stop the ice from melting up there, no matter how many taxes are collected. What's going to happen IS going to happen.
What will become of the PB's? Unknown...
What will become of human beings? Unknown ...
Hey, I'm glad I ran into you, I read a very interesting article today about ur favorite subject ... methane. Illuminating to say the least.
Woomeister
Well-Known Member
lol...not quite my favorite subject! Care to share?
CrackerJax
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Hayduke
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CrackerJax
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Here it is, i pasted it over here for you all.
===================================================
Climate Change Is Nature's Way
It's our good luck one of Earth's many ice ages ended 12,000 years ago.
By HOWARD BLOOM
Climate change activists are right. We are in for walloping shifts in the planet's climate. Catastrophic shifts. But the activists are wrong about the reason. Very wrong. And the prescription for a solution—a $27 trillion solution—is likely to be even more wrong. Why?
Climate change is not the fault of man. It's Mother Nature's way. And sucking greenhouse gases from the atmosphere is too limited a solution. We have to be prepared for fire or ice, for fry or freeze. We have to be prepared for change.
We've been deceived by a stroke of luck. In the two million years during which we climbed from stone-tool wielding Homo erectus with sloping brows to high-foreheaded Homo urbanis, man the inventor of the city, we underwent 60 glaciations, 60 ice ages. And in the 120,000 years since we emerged in our current physiological shape as Homo sapiens, we've lived through 20 sudden global warmings. In most of those, temperatures have shot up by as much as 18 degrees within a mere 20 years.
All this took place without smokestacks and tailpipes. All this took place without the desecration of nature by modern man.
The stroke of luck that's misled us? The sheets of ice in whose shadow we made a living for two million years peeled back 12,000 years ago leaving a lush new Garden of Eden. In that Eden we invented agriculture, money, electronics and our current way of life. But that weather standstill has held on for an abnormally long amount of time. And it's very likely that this atypical weather truce shall someday pass.
Why? What's the real cause of the Earth's norm—a climate that rocks back and forth from steamy tropical heat to icy freeze? A climate that deposits fossilized seashells on mountaintops and makes dry land into seas and swamps?
The Earth is a traveler. Its angle as it sweeps around the sun produces the massive weather flips we call seasons—the dance from summer to winter and back again. But there's more. Our planet has a peculiar wobble—its precession. And that precession produces upheavals in our weather, weather alterations we cycle through every 22,000, 41,000 and 100,000 years. This is called the Milankovich cycle, named for the Serbian engineer and geophysicist who discovered it.
But the wobbles in our trip around the sun are just a start. The sun is a traveler, too. It circles the black hole at the galaxy's core every 226 million years. And it takes its tiny flock of planets with it. That means us. The result?
The journey around the galactic core is fraught with dangers. For example, every 143 million years we pass through a spiral arm of the galaxy, an arm that tosses tsunamis of cosmic rays our way. Those rays produce massive climate change. Then there's the innocent-sounding stuff astronomers call galactic "fluff," massive clouds of cosmic dust lurking in our solar system's path that also cause dramatic climate change.
Meanwhile, the sun itself is going through a cycle from birth to death. As a result of its maturation, good old reliable sol is 43% warmer today than it was when the Earth first gathered itself into a globe of planetesimals 4.5 billion years ago.
The bottom line? Weather changes and the occasional meteor have tossed this planet through roughly 142 mass extinctions since life began 3.85 billion years ago. That's an average of one mass extinction every 26.5 million years. Where did these mass die-offs come from? Nature. There were no human capitalists, industrialists or cultures of consumerism to blame.
We do not want to be the victims of one of these extinctions. Nor do we want to see whales, elephants and pandas go the way of trilobites and dinosaurs. We need to prepare for far more than just the changes we think we make. We need to prepare for the challenge that forced us to evolve into our modern, highly adaptable form. We have to realize that nature tosses us tests, and that we grow by outwitting her. We have to prepare for fire and ice. And we have to realize that Mother Nature is not nice.
Mr. Bloom is the author, most recently, of "The Genius of the Beast: A Radical Re-Vision of Capitalism," published last month by Prometheus Books. He is also founder and head of The Space Development Steering Committee.
===================================================
Climate Change Is Nature's Way
It's our good luck one of Earth's many ice ages ended 12,000 years ago.
By HOWARD BLOOM
Climate change activists are right. We are in for walloping shifts in the planet's climate. Catastrophic shifts. But the activists are wrong about the reason. Very wrong. And the prescription for a solution—a $27 trillion solution—is likely to be even more wrong. Why?
Climate change is not the fault of man. It's Mother Nature's way. And sucking greenhouse gases from the atmosphere is too limited a solution. We have to be prepared for fire or ice, for fry or freeze. We have to be prepared for change.
We've been deceived by a stroke of luck. In the two million years during which we climbed from stone-tool wielding Homo erectus with sloping brows to high-foreheaded Homo urbanis, man the inventor of the city, we underwent 60 glaciations, 60 ice ages. And in the 120,000 years since we emerged in our current physiological shape as Homo sapiens, we've lived through 20 sudden global warmings. In most of those, temperatures have shot up by as much as 18 degrees within a mere 20 years.
All this took place without smokestacks and tailpipes. All this took place without the desecration of nature by modern man.
The stroke of luck that's misled us? The sheets of ice in whose shadow we made a living for two million years peeled back 12,000 years ago leaving a lush new Garden of Eden. In that Eden we invented agriculture, money, electronics and our current way of life. But that weather standstill has held on for an abnormally long amount of time. And it's very likely that this atypical weather truce shall someday pass.
Why? What's the real cause of the Earth's norm—a climate that rocks back and forth from steamy tropical heat to icy freeze? A climate that deposits fossilized seashells on mountaintops and makes dry land into seas and swamps?
The Earth is a traveler. Its angle as it sweeps around the sun produces the massive weather flips we call seasons—the dance from summer to winter and back again. But there's more. Our planet has a peculiar wobble—its precession. And that precession produces upheavals in our weather, weather alterations we cycle through every 22,000, 41,000 and 100,000 years. This is called the Milankovich cycle, named for the Serbian engineer and geophysicist who discovered it.
But the wobbles in our trip around the sun are just a start. The sun is a traveler, too. It circles the black hole at the galaxy's core every 226 million years. And it takes its tiny flock of planets with it. That means us. The result?
The journey around the galactic core is fraught with dangers. For example, every 143 million years we pass through a spiral arm of the galaxy, an arm that tosses tsunamis of cosmic rays our way. Those rays produce massive climate change. Then there's the innocent-sounding stuff astronomers call galactic "fluff," massive clouds of cosmic dust lurking in our solar system's path that also cause dramatic climate change.
Meanwhile, the sun itself is going through a cycle from birth to death. As a result of its maturation, good old reliable sol is 43% warmer today than it was when the Earth first gathered itself into a globe of planetesimals 4.5 billion years ago.
The bottom line? Weather changes and the occasional meteor have tossed this planet through roughly 142 mass extinctions since life began 3.85 billion years ago. That's an average of one mass extinction every 26.5 million years. Where did these mass die-offs come from? Nature. There were no human capitalists, industrialists or cultures of consumerism to blame.
We do not want to be the victims of one of these extinctions. Nor do we want to see whales, elephants and pandas go the way of trilobites and dinosaurs. We need to prepare for far more than just the changes we think we make. We need to prepare for the challenge that forced us to evolve into our modern, highly adaptable form. We have to realize that nature tosses us tests, and that we grow by outwitting her. We have to prepare for fire and ice. And we have to realize that Mother Nature is not nice.
Mr. Bloom is the author, most recently, of "The Genius of the Beast: A Radical Re-Vision of Capitalism," published last month by Prometheus Books. He is also founder and head of The Space Development Steering Committee.
NewGrowth
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You're right Jax the damn Polar Bears are not even dying they are actually doing better than ever. Just and the crock of shit that global warming scammers have trown in the mix.Most of the data shows that PB's have increased dramatically since the 50's or 60's.
Facts are we can't stop the ice from melting up there, no matter how many taxes are collected. What's going to happen IS going to happen.
What will become of the PB's? Unknown...
What will become of human beings? Unknown ...
Hey, I'm glad I ran into you, I read a very interesting article today about ur favorite subject ... methane. Illuminating to say the least.
edwardtheclean
Well-Known Member
If any of us, were in charge of the situation, i think it would have already been solved. but since we live in democracy, a fucked up one at that, (were people that want power, run for office to get power), we vote people in to make decisions and then elect their replacements to do a better job, and the whole time we complain about it. Iran knows no one is going to do anything, which is messed up because the U.S. could roll through them in a few days. and yes, the whole time, China and Russia does nothing, because nothing is going to happen regardless, Why not bank roll people that hate the U.S. and try to make a weapon and give it to the terrorists. We will watch and wait just like that dude in detroit that was on a terrorist watch list but was allowed to travel from seria to fuckin Detroit???? all our money we spend on this is stupid, did you guys see that tunnel in mexico? you could drive a truck through it......
CrackerJax
New Member
Iran has now placed Obama on the wrong side of history. Obama recognized that maniacal regime when the demonstrators were looking for some support ... uhhh ... that wasn't it.
Now the protests are escalating and yet, not a word from Obama.
What the heck is he waiting for?
Get out there and give them some support !!!
His foreign policies are atrocious so far...... abysmal.
Now the protests are escalating and yet, not a word from Obama.
What the heck is he waiting for?
Get out there and give them some support !!!
His foreign policies are atrocious so far...... abysmal.
edwardtheclean
Well-Known Member
no kidding, the GOP would love obama for that,(and america, and me and you) and the election coming up would be big time for them, the liberals would cry and then go after obama, but at least we could use our army for something other than getting sneak attacked,
but his foreign policy is to try to be nice and kind other than "you have 48 hours to leave", wouldnt you agree, half of America would prefer peace and prosper
but his foreign policy is to try to be nice and kind other than "you have 48 hours to leave", wouldnt you agree, half of America would prefer peace and prosper
Hayduke
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We are creating unrest in the country between the other two we have occupied for going on a decade. We paid good money for this. What the hell is he supposed to say...besides sorry?