Is Hydro Really Better Than Soil?

cocodreams

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Soil alone is great, if you can manage 300 gallon pots.

MJ (and most modern cash crops) can't be grown successfully indoors in pure unadulterated soil in 5 or 10 gallon pots, or any manageable sized pot for that matter. They need supplemental fertilizers.

So halfway through your soil grow, you're going to have to start adding nutes. As the plant utilizes nutes, pH gradually becomes an issue.

What most people consider indoor soil growing is actually fertigation, a method of media culture hydroponics where soil acts as the media to hold and support the roots, while supplemental nutrients are supplying the plant's food. So if you're growing in soil and adding fertilizer to your water, you are already practicing a form of hydroponics.

In true soil culture, the soil itself supplies all the nutrients to the plants. This is not the case for most indoor MJ growers.

Here's my point... If you are adding nutes and monitoring pH anyway, why not just do soilless or hydro from the start?

The only way I would grow MJ in soil is if I was growing outdoors in a raised bed, cover cropped and sheet composted each year. Unfortunately this is not feasible in my backyard.
 
hydro is better. always has been, always will be. Its like lab-grown weed when you think about it. It involves way more science and smarts than soil. Theres gotta be a reason why hydro is so accredited.
 

BigFatFatty

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Yea pre fab are way more expensive... Most the stuff I get is from eBay or I have to go to a hydro shop in Dallas but just bout everything you can get now in home depot, lowes, wallyworld, or general hardware stores... You'd be surprised at the shit at your local petco... I've got a semi easy hydro set up maybe 2-300 bucks is it... But I like soil Too cuz it seems like the sun just works better...
 

BigFatFatty

Active Member
Ive seen and sampled some good bud from an outside hydro set up he used soil and have kind of a ebb and flow set up but he was wasting more nutes than the plants were getting... Once it ran outta the pots it just ran into the ground...
 

BigFatFatty

Active Member
That sounds good... I'm wanting to eventually go aero I guess when I can buy the PVC and shit but an outside aero sounds sweet...
 

jdmcwestevo

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honestly there is no better or worse its all in the grower. i have been doing hydro since i started, i have some soil plants that i play around with, and they come out just as good as my hydro my friends can't tell the difference in a blind test same strain hydro vs soil. i prefer hydro because i can manage a large amount of plants easier, and they veg much faster which is important to me. also in hydro you can react to issues much quicker
 

BigFatFatty

Active Member
Yea your right the more you put into it the better quality it is...or seems to me... I like my guerilla grow as well as my hydro... I can get faded and just sit out there by them and just watch em all day... Or until it starts getting hot then I load up and chill with my hydro... But to each their own but I prefer both cuz if the hydro fails I can always use the bid I got in the ground until my hydro gets goin again.
 

jdmcwestevo

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Soil alone is great, if you can manage 300 gallon pots.

MJ (and most modern cash crops) can't be grown successfully indoors in pure unadulterated soil in 5 or 10 gallon pots, or any manageable sized pot for that matter. They need supplemental fertilizers.

So halfway through your soil grow, you're going to have to start adding nutes. As the plant utilizes nutes, pH gradually becomes an issue.

What most people consider indoor soil growing is actually fertigation, a method of media culture hydroponics where soil acts as the media to hold and support the roots, while supplemental nutrients are supplying the plant's food. So if you're growing in soil and adding fertilizer to your water, you are already practicing a form of hydroponics.

In true soil culture, the soil itself supplies all the nutrients to the plants. This is not the case for most indoor MJ growers.

Here's my point... If you are adding nutes and monitoring pH anyway, why not just do soilless or hydro from the start?

The only way I would grow MJ in soil is if I was growing outdoors in a raised bed, cover cropped and sheet composted each year. Unfortunately this is not feasible in my backyard.
i partially agree. indoor soil is very similar to hydro, with differences. obviously there are inert soils which have no nutes or very very little in them that needs to be fertilized by nute feedings like you stated. other soils ie. fox farm ocean forrest have plenty of stuff in it to get you 3-4 week veg and into 1-2 week of flower in 5 gal pots depending on how heavy eating of a strain you have. this makes a big difference in how much maintenance and nute cost you have as well. another thing is that in soil it takes between 3-7 days in my experience to dry up the soil to allow o2 to the roots before you can water again. i don't like that because if for some reason i have a nute issue i need to wait a few days to fix it because i dont want to overwater the soil, and when it is fixed the plant takes longer to show the change.

it is similar, but very different at the same time. in hydro most mediums are designed to be pretty damn hard to overwater ie. hydroton, rockwool, coco.... if u fuck it up you can fix it pretty quickly and the plants respond very fast to the change. that is my two cents and why i prefer hydro
 

woodsmaneh!

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WOW, that's a hell of a setup woodsman, What kind of lighting are you using?
I gotta check out your journal.

I read you are into the grow for over $7100 and using 7000 watts? is that right?

Yup 7100$, I dropped the lights back to 4000 as I am still messing with this set up, and learning. I am out of town most of the week so don't have time to tune the system. Will be able to give it my full attention in about a month. I have 2 more systems I will be running and one of them is a 30gal. Thanks for stopping by.
 

woodsmaneh!

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I always try to keep an open mind as every time I decide something is cast in stone, I'm wrong so, soil vs hydro is kind of like Dodge vs Ford or Chevy. They are both great and both allow you to take a different path to get to the end result. Now most people who grow think they know lots about growing, well sorry most or you don't know much that's why were here right. I have been growing for 30+ years and I learn new stuff all the time because I like to be the best at what I do and growing is my alter life. I can grow 850 to 950g per 1000w in dirt with 20 plants, all I do is water, after every grow I top dress with my custom ferts. Then all I do is water for the next 70 days that's it. I don't Ph or add anything and I reuse the soil in my raised beds, same soil for the last 5 years. I turn the soil every 3er grow. Great taste, smoke bla bla bla

I turned to hydro at the start of the year you can read about it by clicking on my signature.

The hydro is awesome, sorry it is better than the organic in every way, but the big difference is the yield from one plant.

Organic one plant = 45 grams
RDWC Hydro one plant = 224 grams

My overall yield is down per watt compared to the 40 plants. It takes time to master any growing style but so far I am very happy with RDWC and will stick at it. I hope after the next 2 grows of learning I will be closer to 3/4 lb plants. Than the plant yield will be 1 plant = 336 grams

Yup I like hydro
 

BeaverHuntr

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I always try to keep an open mind as every time I decide something is cast in stone, I'm wrong so, soil vs hydro is kind of like Dodge vs Ford or Chevy. They are both great and both allow you to take a different path to get to the end result. Now most people who grow think they know lots about growing, well sorry most or you don't know much that's why were here right. I have been growing for 30+ years and I learn new stuff all the time because I like to be the best at what I do and growing is my alter life. I can grow 850 to 950g per 1000w in dirt with 20 plants, all I do is water, after every grow I top dress with my custom ferts. Then all I do is water for the next 70 days that's it. I don't Ph or add anything and I reuse the soil in my raised beds, same soil for the last 5 years. I turn the soil every 3er grow. Great taste, smoke bla bla bla

I turned to hydro at the start of the year you can read about it by clicking on my signature.

The hydro is awesome, sorry it is better than the organic in every way, but the big difference it the yield from one plant.

Organic one plant = 45 grams
RDWC Hydro one plant = 224 grams

My overall yield is down per watt compared to the 40 plants. It takes time to master any growing style but so far I am very happy with RDWC and will stick at it. I expect I will get to 6 pounds in the next 6 months worth of growing. Than the plant yield will be 1

1 plant = 336 grams

Yup I like hydro
Yup I was getting half a LB per plant ( depending on strain ) in a DWC 5 gallon cooler. Just became to hard to maintain.
 

BigFatFatty

Active Member
Hey bev what probs did you have if you don't mind me asking... Just curious I like to hear ppls probs in case I run into the same shit one day ya know..
 

BeaverHuntr

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Hey bev what probs did you have if you don't mind me asking... Just curious I like to hear ppls probs in case I run into the same shit one day ya know..

Basically the plant was too big for the 5 gallon igloo cooler the rootball grew to the size of a basketball and just had major PH swings because I needed a bigger res. DWC/Bubbleponics promotes heavy growth in veg.
 

Clown Baby

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I prefer hydro.
Once you get it dialed in it's pretty foolproof.
you have more control over the growing situation.
And pumps/timers to automate everything.
Just check pH every few days
 

jcdws602

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Hydro=faster growth rates & larger yields......Soil=better taste......the soil does give buds a unique flavor...especially with the right amendments....so best is a matter of opinion.......do you prefer faster growth rates and larger yields over taste or vice versa......?? Why do you think cannabis cup award entries are grown in soil??Taste..
 

skunkd0c

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i feel lucky i started out with hydro .. if i had of started with soil i might of had problems like many of the predominantly soil growers i see asking questions about why there plants look sick, if that had been the case with me that might of deterred me from growing

so lucky for me i found hydro first, have grown healthy plants for many years with virtually no problems , i do not credit this to any real skill on my own part, but to how easy and great hydro is, it simply "grows itself" lol takes out much of the guess work involved with soil
 
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