Is it normal that leaves curl down first hours after watering?

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sofiakani

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hello again! I've been trying to achieve a good amount of water to water the plant after it gets dry, but its so hard to achieve a nice amount - the leaves always curl down the very first hours. Is that normal? Or is it basically overwatering?

Last three times I watered my plants I've frequently decreased the amount of water but it doesn't help. Their leaves always curl down after 20 min~. I check the top of the soil, stick my thumb 1-2 inches in the soil and I also check the weight. As I said I've frequently dropped down on the amount of water they get fed each time, trying to figure out how much they actually need.

Honestly it's quite hard to stick the thumb into the soil because the plants are rootbound. Most of the time I recognize all the fan leaves (from the middle of the plant to the bottom) slightly drop down, which I believe is a sign of an underwatered plant. Sometimes I barely have any runoffs water from the container.

-Is it normal that leaves curl down after watering?-


Appreciate all answers. Sorry for the bad typing


3 gal container
Plants are 5-6 feet tall
5-7 weeks away from harvest
600w hps
 
MomaPug

MomaPug

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Wowzer... I am sure your plants are rootbound. If I were you I repot up one more time. The health of the root system determines the health and yield of the entire plant.

It's normal for the plant to droop after watering, some more than others. My outdoor plants droop when the sun goes down thirsty or not...it's not uncommon and doesn't mean you are over watering. Just water until you have a decent run-off and only water when the plant dries out... I lift my pots to determine their water needs, it they feel light it's time to water. You will find what works for you, don't let them get so dry that they wilt. Wilting isn't the same as drooping.

Good luck and happy gardening!
 
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sofiakani

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MomaPug said:
Wowzer... I am sure your plants are rootbound. If I were you I repot up one more time. The health of the root system determines the health and yield of the entire plant.

It's normal for the plant to droop after watering, some more than others. My outdoor plants droop when the sun goes down thirsty or not...it's not uncommon and doesn't mean you are over watering. Just water until you have a decent run-off and only water when the plant dries out... I lift my pots to determine their water needs, it they feel light it's time to water. You will find what works for you, don't let them get so dry that they wilt. Wilting isn't the same as drooping.

Good luck and happy gardening!
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Thanks for the answer :) I wish I could repot but I changed to 12/12 the 7th last month. Its my first plants ever, I should have repotted them weeks ago before the cycle change.. I guess I have to ride it out the very first time ;p
 
qwizoking

qwizoking

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Your watering too much. I don't water till run off , but if your roots are that tight too have runoff means your giving em too much...just my opinion
 
Sir.Ganga

Sir.Ganga

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Now that its known to be root bound you should try to keep it evenly moist at all times. Dry pockets will reek havoc in the next 5-6 weeks. Generally speaking when watering soil in containers your run off should equal about a 1/4 to 1/5 of your total water(4 go in 1 comes out) . You don't want it to dry out but it should be dry a few inches down. Cultivating the top surface also helps in determining when to water. The best way to determine how long is to actually take one plant right to the wilt and then you know exactly how long to wait. Watch her carefully and good luck
 
SOMEBEECH

SOMEBEECH

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1 - Purple Stems could be a result of that wonderful thing we call genetics, if this is the reason, you are to expect a purple stem throughout the life of the plant. It must be noted that purple stems aren’t a dominant trait, and are rarely genetically induced.
2 - A baby sprout with a purple stem is almost always 100% natural. Young seedlings are still adjusting to their environment and may be slightly lacking in a Nutrient. If this is the case, healthy plants will regain their green/greenish-brown color within a few days to a week or two.
3 - If you have ruled out the possibilities of genetics and the seedlings adjustments to life, you should begin looking for a nutrient deficiency. Purple stems are commonly caused by a Phosphorous (P) or Magnesium deficiency, if there is a P deficiency you may also notice symptoms such as brittle leaves or greyish spots. To assist the uptake of Phosphorous (as well as most other nutes) you should ensure the pH is slightly acidic-- 6.0 will suffice.
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Buddha101

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REPOT YOUR PLANTS!!!!!! YOU have to do it!! even if you are in flowering!! They are to rootbound in those pots.. You can do it as long as u do it carefully.. Wait until it is bout time to water them (dry soil) THat way when u pull them out of the pots the roots and soil stay together.. Make sure you use the same exact soil you used before. Then just put soil in the new pots grab the plants, squeeze the pot around a little bit (not to hard!) grab the stem right above the soil (lower plant stem) turn upside down and pull out gently (MAKE SURE TO NOT TOUCH THE ROOTS OR SOIL) just put them inside the new pot and put soil around and press the soil down gently (not to hard) You want the roots to be able to move around in their new home easily.. you can always go back in a week or so and push the soil around them tighter... Then water them!!! And always water until you get run off!! if not then salts build up in the soil and you PH will get fucked up... Hope this helps you!! hope u take the advice
 
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Newgrower4646

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Please help i think my bro dropped bag seed all over the yard lil seedlings are everywhere! And is there any way to definetely say weather its marijuana or not?
 
qwizoking

qwizoking

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Dude start a thread....it might be. Every stoner I know at one point broke up seeded bud and tossed it in their driveway or yard, some will sprout eventually. Its all good no reason to worry nobody will know what that are until they get huge by that time you can easily spot them
 
TeW33zy

TeW33zy

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sofiakani said:
Thanks for the answer :) I wish I could repot but I changed to 12/12 the 7th last month. Its my first plants ever, I should have repotted them weeks ago before the cycle change.. I guess I have to ride it out the very first time ;p
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My name Ty, I am a Sr. Biosystems Engineer. I would like to say first stop asking questions to people who knows nothing about how agriculture and rooting/oxygen etc works with a plant that photosynthesis during the day and photorespire during the night. Always ask for a professional in agriculture or Biosystems to answer your question and NEVER a answer from someone who doesn't know and just guess without truly knowing wts going on. First, what you are seeing after you watervis not nothing they responded saying root bounced and all the other non sense I didn't even bother reading anymore. Your plant is not root bound or overwatered. Wts happening is perfectly normal, the roots are low on oxygen as they are drinking the water u poured in. Just like humans, plants can't breath and drink at the same time. Plants will always get low oxygen to the roots after a watering as it is perfectly part of the cycle. You water, they pull in the water which lower the oxygen to the roots temporarily as water clogs the roots only a hour or so and they rebound back shortly after. Only be concerned if more than 4 hours have went by and they are worst, leaves have curled badly and look like they are getting no oxygen, that means the root hairs are damaged from multiple overwatering causing the plant to photorespire as in the opposite of transpire. It will stop and bring in oxygen and release co2 instead of bringing in co2 and releasing oxygen. If the roots can't get oxygen from rooted roots the plant will pull oxygen using its leaves in the air instead of the roots from the soil of which plants always fold leaves under and drooping trying to stay alive. When it curls under its saving itself from death. When u can't breathe u also take small breaths in attempts to get something to your brain and lungs. As long as ur plant is breathing good 1 hour later and the leaves are praying dude get off the internet stop looking for stuff. Especially not from people ready to tell u you are root bound yet he didnt even ask you about your root system yet he established u were root bound and u overwatered. Stop and think get off here these people are guessing you to failure. Follow me on Instagram I can answer your future questions. world_star_engineer (instagram username)
 
Alter Jean

Alter Jean

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TeW33zy said:
My name Ty, I am a Sr. Biosystems Engineer. I would like to say first stop asking questions to people who knows nothing about how agriculture and rooting/oxygen etc works with a plant that photosynthesis during the day and photorespire during the night. Always ask for a professional in agriculture or Biosystems to answer your question and NEVER a answer from someone who doesn't know and just guess without truly knowing wts going on. First, what you are seeing after you watervis not nothing they responded saying root bounced and all the other non sense I didn't even bother reading anymore. Your plant is not root bound or overwatered. Wts happening is perfectly normal, the roots are low on oxygen as they are drinking the water u poured in. Just like humans, plants can't breath and drink at the same time. Plants will always get low oxygen to the roots after a watering as it is perfectly part of the cycle. You water, they pull in the water which lower the oxygen to the roots temporarily as water clogs the roots only a hour or so and they rebound back shortly after. Only be concerned if more than 4 hours have went by and they are worst, leaves have curled badly and look like they are getting no oxygen, that means the root hairs are damaged from multiple overwatering causing the plant to photorespire as in the opposite of transpire. It will stop and bring in oxygen and release co2 instead of bringing in co2 and releasing oxygen. If the roots can't get oxygen from rooted roots the plant will pull oxygen using its leaves in the air instead of the roots from the soil of which plants always fold leaves under and drooping trying to stay alive. When it curls under its saving itself from death. When u can't breathe u also take small breaths in attempts to get something to your brain and lungs. As long as ur plant is breathing good 1 hour later and the leaves are praying dude get off the internet stop looking for stuff. Especially not from people ready to tell u you are root bound yet he didnt even ask you about your root system yet he established u were root bound and u overwatered. Stop and think get off here these people are guessing you to failure. Follow me on Instagram I can answer your future questions. world_star_engineer (instagram username)
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That's great.
 
DCcan

DCcan

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TeW33zy said:
Always ask for a professional in agriculture or Biosystems to answer your question and NEVER a answer from someone who doesn't know and just guess without truly knowing wts going on.
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Who is he talking to in a 8yr old thread? Quit necromancing old threads, use your education to read instead of arguing with dead people over dead plants.
LOL. Follow your own advice, stop and think, and use paragraphs. Why would anyone follow you, you got no weed dude...no pics, no grow, just arrogant advice a decade late, like you don't truly know what's going on.


TeW33zy said:
Stop and think get off here these people are guessing you to failure....
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8 years ago...and then you come along
TeW33zy said:
Dude ain't no fkn pictures
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12 years ago... and you start armchair quarterbacking
TeW33zy said:
No wonder 99% of you are failing, u guys come up with the dumbest stuff ever.
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6 years ago, along comes the Biosystems engineer who can't read timestamps.
TeW33zy said:
No dude stop arguing goofy. It's light stress from to much light.
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