Is lighting my issue?

Z71banshee

Z71banshee

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Hi all. I’ve been lurking for a week or two now and finally decided to join. My girls are about 10 weeks old now. They were fine for the first three weeks and once I started on nutrients, they’ve been yellow. I started with Nectar for the gods and got frustrated with trying to chase a nute deficiency. Did a flush and now am on megacrop. These are going to be mothers so I need them healthy for cloning. After hours of reading threads, I’m wondering if it’s my lights/environment.
setup:
4x4x6 box (keeping a 4x4 footprint with lights).
When lights are on it’s roughly 75-78f. Lights off is around 63-65.
Box is in my basement with a year round ambient temperature of around 55-65.
Lights are two Mars Hydro TS600 on a 18/6 schedule.
From all my reading, it seems as though the temps are too cold for led lights?....or maybe add some more lights?
Really leaning towards getting one or two CMH 315’s. Any and all help is greatly appreciated! 6BE66429-1169-4B17-A7B9-4BD6B6FDFAB8.jpeg
 
PURPLEB3RRYKUSH

PURPLEB3RRYKUSH

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Z71banshee said:
Hi all. I’ve been lurking for a week or two now and finally decided to join. My girls are about 10 weeks old now. They were fine for the first three weeks and once I started on nutrients, they’ve been yellow. I started with Nectar for the gods and got frustrated with trying to chase a nute deficiency. Did a flush and now am on megacrop. These are going to be mothers so I need them healthy for cloning. After hours of reading threads, I’m wondering if it’s my lights/environment.
setup:
4x4x6 box (keeping a 4x4 footprint with lights).
When lights are on it’s roughly 75-78f. Lights off is around 63-65.
Box is in my basement with a year round ambient temperature of around 55-65.
Lights are two Mars Hydro TS600 on a 18/6 schedule.
From all my reading, it seems as though the temps are too cold for led lights?....or maybe add some more lights?
Really leaning towards getting one or two CMH 315’s. Any and all help is greatly appreciated! View attachment 4455221
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Im guessing iron and sulfar issue and not enough light
 
PURPLEB3RRYKUSH

PURPLEB3RRYKUSH

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Z71banshee said:
Hi all. I’ve been lurking for a week or two now and finally decided to join. My girls are about 10 weeks old now. They were fine for the first three weeks and once I started on nutrients, they’ve been yellow. I started with Nectar for the gods and got frustrated with trying to chase a nute deficiency. Did a flush and now am on megacrop. These are going to be mothers so I need them healthy for cloning. After hours of reading threads, I’m wondering if it’s my lights/environment.
setup:
4x4x6 box (keeping a 4x4 footprint with lights).
When lights are on it’s roughly 75-78f. Lights off is around 63-65.
Box is in my basement with a year round ambient temperature of around 55-65.
Lights are two Mars Hydro TS600 on a 18/6 schedule.
From all my reading, it seems as though the temps are too cold for led lights?....or maybe add some more lights?
Really leaning towards getting one or two CMH 315’s. Any and all help is greatly appreciated! View attachment 4455221
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Need another 200 watts or so
 
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Mak'er Grow

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Are the plants sitting in those trays/containers after watering?
They may need to be raised up so they don't sit in the run off and the roots can breath a little.
Also you may want to trim them down some or up pot soon...they look as big or bigger then the pots.
Just my 2 cents...not a pro by any means :P
Good luck and happy growing

Oh and you have plenty of light for mothers...2 or 3 plants survive under 4 fluorescent bulbs just fine.
 
_boogie

_boogie

Member
Hope they bounce back bro when I first looked at that it looked like it’s lacking nitrogen but the rest of your plant is a nice solid green. Dang make sure your not putting too much Nutes less is best but when I ever I give my plants Nutes for the first time I never give the full dose I always give half and ph it down to 6.5 to 6.8
 
_boogie

_boogie

Member
Mak'er Grow said:
Are the plants sitting in those trays/containers after watering?
They may need to be raised up so they don't sit in the run off and the roots can breath a little.
Also you may want to trim them down some or up pot soon...they look as big or bigger then the pots.
Just my 2 cents...not a pro by any means :P
Good luck and happy growing
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Yeah they will suck that back up and run off sometimes gets too acidic
 
Z71banshee

Z71banshee

Member
Mak'er Grow said:
Are the plants sitting in those trays/containers after watering?
They may need to be raised up so they don't sit in the run off and the roots can breath a little.
Also you may want to trim them down some or up pot soon...they look as big or bigger then the pots.
Just my 2 cents...not a pro by any means :P
Good luck and happy growing

Oh and you have plenty of light for mothers...2 or 3 plants survive under 4 fluorescent bulbs just fine.
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No. If I notice any run off, I empty the trays. I even check a half hour later. I usually don’t though, I’m trying to not over water them. I have since trimmed some of the huge stalk fan leaves.
 
Z71banshee

Z71banshee

Member
_boogie said:
Hope they bounce back bro when I first looked at that it looked like it’s lacking nitrogen but the rest of your plant is a nice solid green. Dang make sure your not putting too much Nutes less is best but when I ever I give my plants Nutes for the first time I never give the full dose I always give half and ph it down to 6.5 to 6.8
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I am torn. I’ve been told too much nute and not enough! Lol. I’ve ph’ed since day one and keep everything right around 6.4. I just switched to megacrop and will just give the recommended dose for a week or so and see how they react.
 
TheSadVeryBadMadGrower

TheSadVeryBadMadGrower

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If I had to guess, I would think your PH is incorrect which is causing lockouts. Less is always better with nutes. You might be better flushing your soil and starting with a quarter up to half the recommended dose for your nutrients. The culprit looks like a Copper def. Here's the link.


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How to fix Cannabis Copper Deficiency (Cu) Pics & Symptoms

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Mak'er Grow

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Z71banshee said:
No. If I notice any run off, I empty the trays. I even check a half hour later. I usually don’t though, I’m trying to not over water them. I have since trimmed some of the huge stalk fan leaves.
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I'd stop nutes all together for a week or two and just use plain water...adjusted with proper pH if needed...should tell you if its a nutes issue.

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Bottom row are a few months old. Top row are only a few weeks...pic taken few weeks back, but all get just plain tap water. I think its a waste of nutes and $ to feed them when they really dont need it.
 
TheSadVeryBadMadGrower

TheSadVeryBadMadGrower

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Mak'er Grow said:
I'd stop nutes all together for a week or two and just use plain water...adjusted with proper pH if needed...should tell you if its a nutes issue.

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Bottom row are a few months old. Top row are only a few weeks...pic taken few weeks back, but all get just plain tap water. I think its a waste of nutes and $ to feed them when they really dont need it.
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I had 2 White Widow plants in Fox Farm Ocean Forest. If I missed a feed I would start seeing def. Some strains just use nutes more then others.
 
TheSadVeryBadMadGrower

TheSadVeryBadMadGrower

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Mak'er Grow said:
Thats interesting...I've never seen or had an issue like that myself, but will be adding the info to my mental notebook...thank you :)
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Like I said, some strains can handle it better then others. My Green Crack x Amnesia Haze was a light feeder where the Widows fed heavily. My current Durban Poison is also a light feeder too. I usually don't need to feed anything but water until about week 3.
 
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Mak'er Grow

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TheSadVeryBadMadGrower said:
Like I said, some strains can handle it better then others. My Green Crack x Amnesia Haze was a light feeder where the Widows fed heavily. My current Durban Poison is also a light feeder too. I usually don't need to feed anything but water until about week 3.
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Thought OP said these were mothers which don't have "weeks"...my bad...guess I should read over the posts...lol
 
Z71banshee

Z71banshee

Member
TheSadVeryBadMadGrower said:
Like I said, some strains can handle it better then others. My Green Crack x Amnesia Haze was a light feeder where the Widows fed heavily. My current Durban Poison is also a light feeder too. I usually don't need to feed anything but water until about week 3.
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That’s interesting. The tall one in the back left is a Durban Poison. That one and the short one in the center (Frisian Duck) are the worst ones.
 
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