earnest_voice
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He's not that knowledgeable. His posts are filled with very clever copy and paste sentences mixed together to form his long winded paragraphs. Look for it next time he posts a manifesto
Israel. Oh yeah this makes sense
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He's not that knowledgeable. His posts are filled with very clever copy and paste sentences mixed together to form his long winded paragraphs. Look for it next time he posts a manifesto
Jimdamick
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And Yitzhak Rabin was assassinated, who was cut down because he was a great man who wanted to create a state of Palestine. You want peace in Israel, kill that mother fucker Netanyahu, but because they might have to give BACK some property TO IT'S RIGHTFULL OWNERS, they will never do it, because the USA SUCKS THEIR DICKS! But he has a 80% popularity rating in Israel. So what the fuck does that tell you about Israel. Explain that to me Holyfuckinglandofshit. You are a smart man, or woman, who the fuck knows, but all you crying about how the world really doesn't understand the situation, doesn't simply fly anymore. Listen to the world when they tell you to stop fucking the Palestinians. We, the rest of the planet, will help you, if you are fucked with, but STOP FUCKING THE PALISTINANS.(too much Jameson tonight, I will admit it)
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ChesusRice
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There will be no peace until Israel gets all the land it is after
abandonconflict
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Fairy tales are for children.
abandonconflict
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I call it 'word salad'.
Jimdamick
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Very fucking true, so no peace. I'm sure I am sure, I will never live see it, as I am a old man, who has watched this shit for almost 45 fucking years now. It has only gotten worse, in the sense now every Muslim in the world hates the USA, as in their support of one dictator after another in the Middle East (pick one,name one) The payback started with the Ayatollah Khomeini in 1979, with the overthrow of the American puppet, the supposed Shah of Iran (forgot his name). That was the 1st taste of embassy takeovers by the way, and a downward spiral of Muslim/US attitude, and you know what, beside oil, the major concern was the safety of Israel, which to this day is paramount. No problem there, in my opinion, as they do deserve something to call their own, There has always been a population of Jews in PALISTINE. But just because they were severely fucked with, that does NOT GIVE THEM A RIGHT TO FUCK WITH ANYBODYN ELSE.
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Padawanbater2
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Know what I find odd?
We here in the US accept separation of church and state, somehow that's good enough for us..
But we'll prop up, stabilize, support and propagate a country that doesn't.
The "Jewish State"..
Based on religion..
Their entire existence relies on theology..
What God "gave them" as the "chosen people"..
Any thinking person knows God doesn't exist, so where does said authority come from?
It's make believe..
Thousands of years have solidified it.
Thousands of years of bullshit have said "this is your land" and the idiots occupying it have accepted it because of unyielding nationalism, especially after WW2.
Could you imagine some unknown nation today tried to do the same? "My God ordained this land (lets say Arizona) to my people!"
They occupy Sonora, shoot rockets from the border attempting to capture Phoenix..
Are we living in a fucking cartoon?
We here in the US accept separation of church and state, somehow that's good enough for us..
But we'll prop up, stabilize, support and propagate a country that doesn't.
The "Jewish State"..
Based on religion..
Their entire existence relies on theology..
What God "gave them" as the "chosen people"..
Any thinking person knows God doesn't exist, so where does said authority come from?
It's make believe..
Thousands of years have solidified it.
Thousands of years of bullshit have said "this is your land" and the idiots occupying it have accepted it because of unyielding nationalism, especially after WW2.
Could you imagine some unknown nation today tried to do the same? "My God ordained this land (lets say Arizona) to my people!"
They occupy Sonora, shoot rockets from the border attempting to capture Phoenix..
Are we living in a fucking cartoon?
Nutes and Nugs
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Holylander
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Wow, you found some some op eds from during the war! The official position, day in and out, the very purpose of Hamas' existence is the destruction of Israel and the Jewish people. The official govt of Gaza, not some random op eds.. You should apply to be a minster in their govt!!
Nutes and Nugs
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After Obama's term is finished he should become the head of Israel.
I'm sure he has more birth certificates.
Holylander
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There are a dozen Christian states in Europe. You're an absurd man. Poland, Spain, Greece, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, etc etc these are all countries with official state religion just like Israel, they have full freedom of religion too just like Israel. The only difference is Israel's is Jewish. Just in case anyone thought to take your mad anti semite ramblings seriously.
Holylander
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There's nothing wrong with that clip.. I remember it, It was said to a family victims of Palestinian terrorism during the intifada terror war, where dozens of Palestinian suicide bombers were blowing up buses in my city with the intent of killing anyone and everyone. The answer then was give them and their state sponsor strong blows, mortal blows to push and fight the terrorism back. That's what Israel did, it was called operation defensive shield and it was supported across the western world. The same answer would be given in every western democracy facing Palestinians, or any other group of Islamic terrorists blowing up buses and cafes in NYC, or London, or Paris or Sydney for months on end. You are a propagandist, nothing more. Like Goebbels.
Holylander
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I don't think Obama could handle the Israeli press, or parliament.. It's a lot more open and critical than he is used to.
earnest_voice
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Agree man, it was a sad day when he was killed. He was one guy who could've brought legitimate peace to the two sides..
RIP Rabin
I'll smoke a bowl for you
earnest_voice
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All those op eds were published this year, from around July onwards... Try again clown shoes
LOL the difference is they are not christian states with the Bible as their constitution
Their borders are defined and they are not pissing off everyone else around them by stealing their land...
Padawanbater2
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It's interesting you quoted the first 1/8 of my post, which took it completely out of context, then decided to ignore the rest which solidified the point I was making.. but OK.. maybe you expected nobody to notice?
I find it especially hilarious you ended it with accusing me of being an anti-semite, coincidentally, exactly as I predicted in previous posts. Holy shit, coincidence?
You, being an Israeli, and likely Jewish, have no other go to defense except; ANTI-SEMITE!!!! Literally any criticism of Israeli policy is deemed anti-semitism by Israeli supporters.
To be honest, such an accusation detracts from actual anti-semitism, and you do a total disservice to real anti-semitism.
Just like how in America if you call someone racist who simply disagrees with illegal immigration..
You go to the go to because you have nothing else. Without your accusation of me being an anti-semite, you would be speechless with no argument.
We in the US have it written in our constitution that we value the separation of church and state. Your entire nation is built upon your perceived "holy land" that "God" ordained to you. Well, I'm here to tell you, God is bullshit, so where does that authority come from? You might as well be saying "The invisible fairy from neverland gave us this land and told us we were the chosen people! So THERE!"... Uhh... Yeah, you should be embarrassed for such a bullshit justification, if anyone can even call it that with a straight face..
Padawanbater2
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No it wouldn't, because western governments don't commit terrorist acts, like Israel does.
Interestingly enough, terrorists did bomb busses in London on 7/7/05, did you see Blair on international TV saying they need to destroy Islam and make every Muslim pay for it?
Your assertions are demonstrably false, and history shows it.
Holylander
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I quoted chopped your quote because your posts are insanely long and there's zero pint filling the page up, and replied to the main point. Many countries don't have constitutions, Israel's laws are fully democratic, the rights of all regardless of religion or creed are delineated in our statement of independence and all our laws. Israel is recognized as such by the whole western world, the UN, every single fact based literature source etc etc for 65+ years. Your opinion is just that, and it is wrong.
Further, your posts show a double standard against Israel vs other countries, holding the Jewish state to a double standard vs say the dozen Christian states I outlined, or the 22 Muslims states in the world because it is the Jewish state is the definition of anti Semitism. Further still, the intifada I mentioned was not 1 bombing event, it was over a year of bombings killing over a thousand civilians and injuring thousands more, shutting down our economy etc etc. Our population is only 7 million, this would be the equivalent of killing about 10,000 Brits in suicide bombings. So you let me know how Britain would respond to 10,000 people killed by Islamic terrorists in a few months of horrific public bombings targeting women and children. So it's easy to compare apples to oranges, or distort as you do. BTW, Britain supported the very operation I talked about, defensive shield.
You want to hate on Israel? That's fine. You don't? That's fine too. You want to distort the situation? That's fine. I'm perfectly well within my rights to call it out, I will defend my country from your baseless accusations and equally post the facts. Anyone looking at this thread who is fair, objective, and maybe understandably not aware of all the facts because they frankly don't need to be, would see that all these posts bashing Israel are nothing but wild conjecture, always 1/4 of the story and mass distortion. I counter with the facts, and they show time and again the reality is simply a bunch of hypocrites applying obscene triple standards to Israel, to justify what is in reality just base hate. The vast majority of Americans value my country, here in Israel we adore America. You are entitled to your opinions, I'm glad that most disagree with you.
Holylander
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No you are the clown, exactly as I stated: Op Eds during the war. You know, the war from July onwards we just had with Gaza.
Padawanbater2
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You are not in a position to lecture anyone on the deaths of women and children, my friend..
I feel the same way about any other religious state, be it Jewish, Muslim, or Christian, that justifies its existence based on the imaginary authority of it's creator.
You are the product of 4 billion years of evolution, act like it.
I don't hate Israel, nor any Israeli citizen or you. I simply oppose the Israeli governments strategy when dealing with Palestinian issues.
It's sad, man. Innocent people die and the nationalism is so extreme on both sides nothing will ever be solved. I've mentioned how I think the situation should be resolved, the idiots who run Hamas should stop their bullshit and utilize a more peaceful approach, but their lack of education and the cycle of violence won't permit them to. All of organized religion is holding us back, but Islam takes the fucking cake.. At least with Christianity (these days) people aren't cutting off peoples heads..
Don't get me wrong, I despise organized religion in any flavor.
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