Thanks Ninja!!! Ok, what I don't like.... Everything was going great, well beside the DS growing into the lights. I also started the seeds to early on the carmelisious & master kush, but other than that it was a lot smoother than I thought.... 1) too high... You mentioned nets, this time I'm going to for sure use some sort of canopy, something like a scrog, but not if that makes sense. The SP was perfect size, just not enough yield. I did everything right on, well except the nute measurer, if I had one I think I was so dead in with my feedings it wouldn't helped or hurt it. Anyways those DS just kept growing, and growing... It's was crazy!!! I didn't panic and yank them out when I came in 1 night and 3 of the 4 were tipped over. They were sooo big all I could do was lasso them up, literally!!! They are still getting water regularly and lights 12/12, but like I said they are lassoed so I don't know how much light the middle is getting... 2) starting the seeds to early... Damn!!! I've had these new ones in veg for like 21-30 days!!! They are for sure healthy, but they already are huge!!! As soon as I pulled the SP I cleaned the trays and kept it moving!!! I do have some mothers 1 of each in the cloning room, and still have 5 more ready to go as soon as I pull the DS. I clipped all the fan leaves and threw them away. Then all the smaller leaves w/sugar on them I kept and will be making something real nice. The one thing I remember reading was when your ready to pull wait a week & that drying & curing were the most important things in this process. So I'm hang drying now, and will for the next couple days, then move to the jars...