January 6th, 2021

mysunnyboy

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I love this guy, he's a caring, wise man.


He's spot on in his commentary that there HAS TO BE CONSEQUENCES for Trump & his enablers in the House of Representatives & the Senate.
But, where/will there be any?
Probably fucking not, seeing as they were duly elected by their fucked-up constituents & that won't change.
So, here we are, a Nation divided, separated essentially into 2 camps, the Sane & the fucking Insane.
How do you think this will work out?
I have no hope left at all
None
Way too many fucking fools/idiots in this country & that should be perfectly clear by now.
They outnumber us, & by us I mean someone with an IQ above 70.
Sad fucking fact :)
I’m forming the opinion that these were literally Trump employees.
They got in too easily.
No police response in all honesty.
Small number of arrest.
Journalists being arrested.
Baby son and rudy were the warm up band.
They all looked like grizzly adams rejects.
Free Trump paraphernalia flying.
No killing of cops.
Just mho
 

printer

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First GOP lawmaker calls for invoking 25th Amendment to remove Trump
Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-Ill.) on Thursday became the first GOP lawmaker to call for invoking the 25th Amendment to remove President Trump from office.
It came a day after a pro-Trump mob stormed and ransacked the U.S. Capitol in a futile bid to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election.
"The president caused this. The president is unfit and the president is unwell. And the president now must relinquish control of the executive branch voluntarily or involuntarily," Kinzinger, a centrist Republican and frequent Trump critic, said in a video message.

 

DIY-HP-LED

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Republican congressman calls for Trump to be removed from office

Kevin Dietsch/Pool/AFP/Getty Images
Kevin Dietsch/Pool/AFP/Getty Images

Rep. Adam Kinzinger, a Republican from Illinois, tweeted a video message Thursday calling for the 25th Amendment to be invoked and President Trump to be removed from office.
Kinzinger said that yesterday, it became evident that Trump "has abdicated his duty to protect the American people and the people's house."
Kinzinger said Trump "invoked and inflamed passions that only gave fuel to the insurrection that we saw here."
"It's time to invoke the 25th Amendment and end this nightmare," he added.
Watch the video:

 

hanimmal

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I’m forming the opinion that these were literally Trump employees.
They got in too easily.
No police response in all honesty.
Small number of arrest.
Journalists being arrested.
Baby son and rudy were the warm up band.
They all looked like grizzly adams rejects.
Free Trump paraphernalia flying.
No killing of cops.
Just mho
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Bagginski

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only about 20% actually.
Believe it or not, that’s about the turnout I expected...and a pretty fair gauge of the size of the hard-core anti-American know-nothings: the deep irony here is that their brainwashing has been telling them for decades that they’re 60-75% of the voting population. They have an instilled belief that *they* are the big dog - and all the rest of us - blacks, Latinos, ‘feminists’, ‘liberals’, hippies, civil libertarians - are just the fleas.

What they want, is to shake off all the fleas. It’s what they’re on about with the “it’s OUR country” message. Proportionately, they’re more like the fleas...fleas on a dog with serious infections and internal parasites. They may want to stop itching, but they blame “the fleas” for the dog’s overall poor condition while ignoring the parasites and infections.

Me, I just want a healthy dog. Without fleas.

I think we can have confidence in 74,000,000 as the absolute high-water mark of Trump support. It’s a daunting number, but there’s 300,000,000 of us (based on my pre-census estimate of current population)
 

hanimmal

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First GOP lawmaker calls for invoking 25th Amendment to remove Trump
Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-Ill.) on Thursday became the first GOP lawmaker to call for invoking the 25th Amendment to remove President Trump from office.
It came a day after a pro-Trump mob stormed and ransacked the U.S. Capitol in a futile bid to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election.
"The president caused this. The president is unfit and the president is unwell. And the president now must relinquish control of the executive branch voluntarily or involuntarily," Kinzinger, a centrist Republican and frequent Trump critic, said in a video message.

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Fogdog

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You have a 3rd world dictator because that level of polarization is the inevitable result of the partisan mess that is your political system. Trump didn't materialize out of the void, he is a creation of American culture. He didn't invent the far right neo-fascist movement, he just saw the opportunity to use it for his own ends. Trump is not the cause, he is a symptom.

BTW, when does your rulebook officially declare a Civil War? How many "pockets of violence" are required?

I read statements like "this isn't who we are" from those who respect law and democracy, but over 49% of Americans voted for Trump as of a 2 months ago. Where do you think that number stands today? Do you think they are going to be happy with their little attack yesterday, or are millions of them currently congratulating themselves and deciding what comes next?
I'd say that there are fewer supporters but still many millions are still angry that Democrats are taking offices they think should be permanently held by their own. Tens of millions. While the terrorist acts were going down, I spent some time listening to a propaganda organ for these people, right wing radio. They were exuberant. One radio host said antifa was doing it. So their beat goes on.

The police are involved as well. I don't know anything in particular, just believe that they were ready to lift the red flag and let the bulls pass by. I've seen the same in Portland.

Trump demonstrates how much can be done when Congress and the Presidency is held by one party. So, now we'll see if Democrats can follow the rule of law, behave like adults and use that power to set things right.

However, if you call this war then you have no idea what you are talking about.
 

printer

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I'd say that there are fewer supporters but still many millions are still angry that Democrats are taking offices they think should be permanently held by their own. Tens of millions. While the terrorist acts were going down, I spent some time listening to a propaganda organ for these people, right wing radio. They were exuberant. One radio host said antifa was doing it. So their beat goes on.
I have been on Newsmax for four year, just tried to correct some of the misinformation given, alright me bad, I used facts. For the heck of it I listened to their video feed. Oh my. Everything blamed on the left, the right are righteous, they are holding back the floodgates of socialism/the devil. I had to turn it off. Tuned in later, some dame in Congress when everything happening. Still spewing poison. I can not believe people can not see they are being manipulated. It is quite sad.
 

mysunnyboy

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Believe it or not, that’s about the turnout I expected...and a pretty fair gauge of the size of the hard-core anti-American know-nothings: the deep irony here is that their brainwashing has been telling them for decades that they’re 60-75% of the voting population. They have an instilled belief that *they* are the big dog - and all the rest of us - blacks, Latinos, ‘feminists’, ‘liberals’, hippies, civil libertarians - are just the fleas.

What they want, is to shake off all the fleas. It’s what they’re on about with the “it’s OUR country” message. Proportionately, they’re more like the fleas...fleas on a dog with serious infections and internal parasites. They may want to stop itching, but they blame “the fleas” for the dog’s overall poor condition while ignoring the parasites and infections.

Me, I just want a healthy dog. Without fleas.

I think we can have confidence in 74,000,000 as the absolute high-water mark of Trump support. It’s a daunting number, but there’s 300,000,000 of us (based on my pre-census estimate of current population)
Half of them are from Ohio
 

printer

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Scarborough calls for arrest of Trump, Giuliani and Trump Jr. for insurrection against US
A furious Joe Scarborough on Thursday dropped an f-bomb on live television while talking about the pro-Trump riots at the U.S. Capitol, calling for the arrests of President Trump, Rudy Giuliani and Donald Trump Jr. for insurrection.

The MSNBC host issued a fiery condemnation of the Capitol Police response to the mob while speaking on “Morning Joe,” questioning why the group of predominately white Trump supporters were not forcefully stopped from breaching the complex.

“If these insurrectionists were black, they would have been shot in the face,” Scarborough said. “And my god, if these insurrectionists were Muslim they would have been sniped from the top of buildings.”

“So I want to know from the Capitol Hill police — what, is it just white people? Or is it Donald Trump supporters? Why do you scream at people for walking across the street three blocks away from the Capitol? Why are you known as these badasses around the Capitol? But then Trump supporters come in and you open the f------ doors for them. You open the doors for them and let them breach the people’s house. What is wrong with you?”

The former GOP lawmaker questioned: “Are we a nation of laws? Are we a nation of one man?”

Scarborough then turned to Trump, his eldest son and Giuliani, who held a rally with the same group of supporters just before the crowd stormed the federal building. The host said that their rhetoric contributed to the uprising.

“That’s insurrection against the United States of America and if Donald Trump Jr., Rudy Giuliani and Donald Trump are not arrested today for insurrection and taken to jail and booked — and if the Capitol Hill police do not go through every video and look at the face of every person that invaded our Capitol and if they are not arrested and brought to justice today — then we are no longer a nation of laws and we only tell people they can do this again,” Scarborough said.

During his Wednesday speech, Trump explicitly urged the protesters to march on Congress after the rally. He told the crowd that they were going to the Capitol to give Republicans the "boldness that they need to take back our country."

“Let’s walk down Pennsylvania Avenue,” the president said, falsely telling the crowd that he would “be there with you.”

Giuliani, the president’s personal lawyer, called for a “trial by combat” during his remarks on Wednesday, referring to Trump’s team and Joe Biden’s team putting their reputations at stake over whether widespread fraud occurred in the 2020 presidential election.

Trump Jr. condemned Republicans in Congress who were not standing with the president’s debunked claims of voter fraud, telling the crowd they need to “stand up and fight.”

“You can either be a hero or you can be a zero,” Trump Jr. said. “And the choice is yours. But we are all watching. The whole world is watching, folks, choose wisely. ... These guys better fight for Trump. Because if they’re not — guess what? I’m going to be in your backyard in a couple of months.”

The Trump Organization executive added: “We’re coming for you, and we’re going to have a good time doing it.”

 

printer

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Attorney withdraws from election challenge lawsuit, saying Trump used him to 'perpetrate a crime'
An attorney representing President Trump in one of his dozens of lawsuits challenging the 2020 election moved to withdraw from the case on Thursday, telling a federal court that the president used him to "perpetrate a crime."

Philadelphia-based attorney Jerome Marcus asked the court to allow him to withdraw, citing concerns over Pennsylvania's professional conduct standards for lawyers.

Marcus wrote that "the client has used the lawyer's services to perpetrate a crime and the client insists upon taking action that the lawyer considers repugnant and with which the lawyer has a fundamental disagreement."

 
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