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Graham renews effort to block Georgia grand jury subpoena
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) is renewing his legal effort to block a special grand jury subpoena for his testimony as part of an investigation into former President Trump’s efforts to pressure Georgia officials to overturn the 2020 election results.

Court filings submitted late Friday show Graham has tapped Trump’s former White House counsel Don McGahn as part of his legal team in a federal lawsuit to quash the subpoena from Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis (D).

Graham asked the federal district court in Georgia to hear the case on an expedited basis, citing the subpoena’s Aug. 23 deadline. His lawyers argued the Constitution expressly shields federal lawmakers from being compelled to testify in such state court proceedings.

“A federal court would be ordering a U.S. Senator from a coequal branch of government to appear before a grand jury,” the filing reads. “And enforcement would pose an even larger problem: It would create a precedent that would allow other county officials in locales across the nation to impose similar burdens on federal officials, of whatever party, to the detriment of our federal government and the federalism that protects it from state and local interference. And to what end? There is no need for Senator Graham’s testimony, far less ‘extraordinary circumstances’ compelling it.”

Willis has demanded Graham’s testimony regarding phone calls he made to a pair of state officials following the 2020 election.

Graham had previously filed a lawsuit in South Carolina federal court but agreed to dismiss the case and re-file it in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Georgia.

McGahn, his new attorney, served as White House counsel for Trump from the beginning of the administration in 2017 to fall 2018.

Graham’s lawyers argued the senator’s testimony would not be useful for Willis’s investigation, saying he took no part in any effort to overturn Georgia’s 2020 election results.

In their filing, his legal team wrote that Graham “was specifically exercising his oversight responsibilities as Chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee, including related to voting integrity and election-law issues.”
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Graham renews effort to block Georgia grand jury subpoena

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) is renewing his legal effort to block a special grand jury subpoena for his testimony as part of an investigation into former President Trump’s efforts to pressur…
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Roger A. Shrubber

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Graham renews effort to block Georgia grand jury subpoena
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) is renewing his legal effort to block a special grand jury subpoena for his testimony as part of an investigation into former President Trump’s efforts to pressure Georgia officials to overturn the 2020 election results.

Court filings submitted late Friday show Graham has tapped Trump’s former White House counsel Don McGahn as part of his legal team in a federal lawsuit to quash the subpoena from Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis (D).

Graham asked the federal district court in Georgia to hear the case on an expedited basis, citing the subpoena’s Aug. 23 deadline. His lawyers argued the Constitution expressly shields federal lawmakers from being compelled to testify in such state court proceedings.

“A federal court would be ordering a U.S. Senator from a coequal branch of government to appear before a grand jury,” the filing reads. “And enforcement would pose an even larger problem: It would create a precedent that would allow other county officials in locales across the nation to impose similar burdens on federal officials, of whatever party, to the detriment of our federal government and the federalism that protects it from state and local interference. And to what end? There is no need for Senator Graham’s testimony, far less ‘extraordinary circumstances’ compelling it.”

Willis has demanded Graham’s testimony regarding phone calls he made to a pair of state officials following the 2020 election.

Graham had previously filed a lawsuit in South Carolina federal court but agreed to dismiss the case and re-file it in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Georgia.

McGahn, his new attorney, served as White House counsel for Trump from the beginning of the administration in 2017 to fall 2018.

Graham’s lawyers argued the senator’s testimony would not be useful for Willis’s investigation, saying he took no part in any effort to overturn Georgia’s 2020 election results.

In their filing, his legal team wrote that Graham “was specifically exercising his oversight responsibilities as Chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee, including related to voting integrity and election-law issues.”
thehill.com

Graham renews effort to block Georgia grand jury subpoena

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) is renewing his legal effort to block a special grand jury subpoena for his testimony as part of an investigation into former President Trump’s efforts to pressur…
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i was going to say "the only coward bigger than hawley."...but all things considered, all republicans are about equally cowardly...not a single one of them can step up and admit they did anything wrong, much less feel any remorse
 
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Jan 6. rioter who carried gun to US Capitol and threatened Nancy Pelosi gets more than 7 years in prison
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Jan. 6 rioter who carried gun to US Capitol and threatened Nancy Pelosi gets more than 7 years in prison | CNN Politics

A federal judge on Monday sentenced Guy Reffitt, who brought a gun to the US Capitol during the January 6, 2021, riot and threatened House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, to more than seven years in prison, the longest insurrection-related sentence to date.
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Soap on a rope might be a good idea.
 
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Trump's Criminal Intent Exposed: Coup Conspiracy Timeline From Nov. To Jan. 6 (MSNBC Highlights)
391,366 views Aug 1, 2022 MSNBC Chief Legal Correspondent Ari Melber reports on Donald Trump’s illegal coup plot and the “many different plots [that] were pursued, thwarted and then doubled down upon” to try to overturn the 2020 election. Former Watergate Prosecutor Jill Wine-Banks joins Ari Melber in a follow up to this “Beat” special report on Trump’s illegal plotting and fake electors scheme, adding “even when they were setting it up, they said it was fake electors… you have all of these things and they were all failing, then on the day that it was going to be certified, he invited and unleashed a mob on the Capitol.”
 
Dorian2

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captainmorgan said:
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First on CNN: Jan. 6 text messages wiped from phones of key Trump Pentagon officials

The Defense Department wiped the phones of top departing DOD and Army officials at the end of the Trump administration, deleting any texts from key witnesses to events surrounding the January 6, 2021, attack on the US Capitol, according to court filings.
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That's an extremely dangerous precedent being set. All Americans better be very worried. My feeling is that the texts themselves were much more revealing and criminal than the act of destroying them is at this point. Not good.
 
DIY-HP-LED

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That's an extremely dangerous precedent being set. All Americans better be very worried. My feeling is that the texts themselves were much more revealing and criminal than the act of destroying them is at this point. Not good.
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Trump is gonna send a lot of people to prison, this wasn't just destruction of government records it was destruction of evidence in the most serious crime in US history, had it succeded it would have ended American history as a democracy. It could also make them party to a larger conspiracy. Congressional oversight committees are gonna go through all these agencies phones, even the park police and they will get to the bottom of it and a lot of civil servants are gonna be fired and indicted, add another group to Trump's many victims and accomplices, they should even exceed the number of lawyers he will end up sending to prison or screwing for life. He used them like toilet paper and they stuck out their tongues while he wiped.
 
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Dorian2 said:
That's an extremely dangerous precedent being set. All Americans better be very worried. My feeling is that the texts themselves were much more revealing and criminal than the act of destroying them is at this point. Not good.
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time for a big shake up at the pentagon....a lot of people need to get sacked, and quick.
pretty much anyone whose phone got wiped...no reason to wipe a phone if there is nothing incriminating on it...
 
cannabineer

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Dorian2 said:
That's an extremely dangerous precedent being set. All Americans better be very worried. My feeling is that the texts themselves were much more revealing and criminal than the act of destroying them is at this point. Not good.
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I figured that by now every single digital communication is being intercepted, recorded, indexed and stored by NSA as a matter of course.

Collusion in the NSA would be oh so bad.

I say get the NSA to spill. With the republic in the balance, the equations of national security are not status quo.
 
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I figured that by now every single digital communication is being intercepted, recorded, indexed and stored by NSA as a matter of course. Collusion in the NSA would be oh so bad.
I say get the NSA to spill. With the republic in the balance, the equations of national security are not status quo.
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I don't typically like to comment on American politics, but here's a thing that kinda slays me. I've been following closed mouthed for just a couple of years, and one of the first things I noticed when I started following in 2020 was this. It was so obvious that the previous government were taking away and placing pieces (people) in various positions that should be held with heavy accountability and utmost security for the good of any nation. What really bugs me about it is that there are still so many American voters willing to overlook the obvious chess game that was, and still is, being played because they were brought up with certain political ideals (I was born a Democrat/Republican). I don't think a lot of people realize nor understand the shell game that they're playing. If folks keep moving goalposts, playing stupid, and "winning" for the sake of their own ego, you aren't going to have a constitution to speak of. Or it'll be rendered meaningless.

I do not post this lightly or with any intent of drama. You folks have to turn this shit around right quick like.
 
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cannabineer

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Dorian2 said:
I don't typically like to comment on American politics, but here's a thing that kinda slays me. I've been following closed mouthed for just a couple of years, and one of the first things I noticed when I started following in 2020 was that it was this. It was so obvious that the previous government were taking away and placing pieces (people) in various positions that should be held with heavy accountability and utmost security for the good of any nation. What really bugs me about it is that there are still so many American voters willing to overlook the obvious chess game that was, and still is, being played because they were brought up with certain political ideals (I was born a Democrat/Republican). I don't think a lot of people realize nor understand the shell game that they're playing. If folks keep moving goalposts, playing stupid, and "winning" for the sake of their own ego, you aren't going to have a constitution to speak of. Or it'll be rendered meaningless.

I do not post this lightly or with any intent of drama. You folks have to turn this shit around right quick like.
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I share your sense of peril. My family remembers how quickly German democracy went from “embattled but alive” to a permanent state of emergency.

I also do not believe that all the ferrous bullshit we citizens have been buying over decades “because 2A” will mean a thing when the pros come prowling through.
 
Dorian2

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DIY-HP-LED said:
Trump is gonna send a lot of people to prison, this wasn't just destruction of government records it was destruction of evidence in the most serious crime in US history, had it succeded it would have ended American history as a democracy. It could also make them party to a larger conspiracy. Congressional oversight committees are gonna go through all these agencies phones, even the park police and they will get to the bottom of it and a lot of civil servants are gonna be fired and indicted, add another group to Trump's many victims and accomplices, they should even exceed the number of lawyers he will end up sending to prison or screwing for life. He used them like toilet paper and they stuck out their tongues while he wiped.
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I'll temper my expectations. American justice system is up to bat. I don't know enough about it to be worried, and I'll leave it there. I know a can of worms when I see it.
 
DIY-HP-LED

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Dorian2 said:
I'll temper my expectations. American justice system is up to bat. I don't know enough about it to be worried, and I'll leave it there. I know a can of worms when I see it.
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A giant can of worms and if you live near America you feel a special threat, but the reality is all liberal democracies would be prey to the like of China and Russia who wage economic war, with a mercantilist policy that incompatible with the global economic system. America controls about 20% of the global economy these days and allies are it's biggest asset, allowing it to double or triple it economic clout. In war allies who are also friends that share values and must trust each other as much as possible to work together as a unit and keep their agreements. Russia has few friends and so does China, but it is trying to improve it's reputation in the global village.

So Trump was and Trumpism is a threat to our and NATO's national security having a fascist neighbor makes people feel uncomfortable. If the guy across the street started flying swastikas and displaying the usual signs of an antisocial personality while heavily armed to the teeth, you would be concerned!
 
Dorian2

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DIY-HP-LED said:
A giant can of worms and if you live near America you feel a special threat, but the reality is all liberal democracies would be prey to the like of China and Russia who wage economic war, with a mercantilist policy that incompatible with the global economic system. America controls about 20% of the global economy these days and allies are it's biggest asset, allowing it to double or triple it economic clout. In war allies who are also friends that share values and must trust each other as much as possible to work together as a unit and keep their agreements. Russia has few friends and so does China, but it is trying to improve it's reputation in the global village.

So Trump was and Trumpism is a threat to our and NATO's national security having a fascist neighbor makes people feel uncomfortable. If the guy across the street started flying swastikas and displaying the usual signs of an antisocial personality while heavily armed to the teeth, you would be concerned!
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Won't happen in my hood. I live amongst the Muslims.

Great neighbors!! The Women drive like maniacs though.

:bigjoint:
 
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