January to June 2012 warmest first half of any year on record

UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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NoDrama said:
I don't have any cows, Im a farmer, not a dairy operator or a rancher.

Kill the Government subsidies!!! Burn them, Burn them, Burn them!!!
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you say you support the free market with no government intervention on one hand, and then you take government subsidies which keep the price of food artificially low on the other hand.

you're a gem.
 
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NoDrama

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UncleBuck said:
you say you support the free market with no government intervention on one hand, and then you take government subsidies which keep the price of food artificially low on the other hand.

you're a gem.
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Hell yeah!!! I take all the money the government is willing to hand out, I DO pay taxes you know. Guess what else? Its all 100% LEGAL!!!

Why should I ever have to lift a finger to make a dollar when so many are willing to work theirs to the bone for me? You paid taxes last year didn't you? Thanks, it helped me buy a new 2012 Corvette ZR1.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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NoDrama said:
Hell yeah!!! I take all the money the government is willing to hand out, I DO pay taxes you know. Guess what else? Its all 100% LEGAL!!!

Why should I ever have to lift a finger to make a dollar when so many are willing to work theirs to the bone for me? You paid taxes last year didn't you? Thanks, it helped me buy a new 2012 Corvette ZR1.
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it's fine to take the government money, but then you are a hypocrite to say you support a free market with no government intervention.

it would be like me saying i am against big ag with a coca cola in one hand and a big mac in the other. that's exactly why i have to pay so much more for my food, because i don't support subsidizing farmers like you.

by the way, your taxes paid for my greenhouse under the EITC, and i at least have the courtesy to keep things 100% organic and not use GMO seeds. you're welcome.
 
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NoDrama

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UncleBuck said:
it's fine to take the government money, but then you are a hypocrite to say you support a free market with no government intervention.

it would be like me saying i am against big ag with a coca cola in one hand and a big mac in the other. that's exactly why i have to pay so much more for my food, because i don't support subsidizing farmers like you.

by the way, your taxes paid for my greenhouse under the EITC, and i at least have the courtesy to keep things 100% organic and not use GMO seeds. you're welcome.
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Everyone is a Hypocrite, some just have more money than others do. Some of us just sit around all day collecting transfer payments. Its not the only Gubbermint subsidy I participate in either.
 
MuyLocoNC

MuyLocoNC

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canndo said:
Per year? probably not but the fact remains that CO2 concentrations are going up and there are only two plausable explainations for it.

1. Man is doing it
2. The mechanism is misunderstood and warming preceeds CO2 increases rather than the other way around.
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To the earlier question, man contributes LESS than one tenth of one percent of CO2 emissions.

To Canndo, #2 is exactly correct. Warming has ALWAYS preceded CO2 increases. The notion that it doesn't, didn't even surface until GORE intentionally reversed the chart in his little movie. The Eco-Loons latched on to that and haven't let go since. Why? Because without that blatant fallacy, they have no crisis to use as a vehicle for their actual agenda.
 
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ChesusRice

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Over forty anti global warming organizations are funded by the Koch Brothers. The father of the Koch Brothers made his wealth by going to then Communist Russia and making his wealth there. Then he came back to the US and helped start organizations such as the John Birch Society and over 40 right wing groups, that deny climate change and global warming.
 
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NoDrama

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ChesusRice said:
Over forty anti global warming organizations are funded by the Koch Brothers. The father of the Koch Brothers made his wealth by going to then Communist Russia and making his wealth there. Then he came back to the US and helped start organizations such as the John Birch Society and over 40 right wing groups, that deny climate change and global warming.
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God Forbid someone makes any money eh?
 
MuyLocoNC

MuyLocoNC

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ChesusRice said:
Over forty anti global warming organizations are funded by the Koch Brothers. The father of the Koch Brothers made his wealth by going to then Communist Russia and making his wealth there. Then he came back to the US and helped start organizations such as the John Birch Society and over 40 right wing groups, that deny climate change and global warming.
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Yeah, I don't get my info from them. However, I do stand with the 31,000 American scientists that signed the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine's global warming petition against the horseshit that is MMGW. They must ALL be in the Koch brother's pocket.
 
medicineman

medicineman

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118* in Vegas today, Just a typical summer day, Actually June was rather cool, But not this month, scorcharia, my pool is 95*, and no, I don't have a heater, just the sun .
 
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ChesusRice

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MuyLocoNC said:
Yeah, I don't get my info from them. However, I do stand with the 31,000 American scientists that signed the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine's global warming petition against the horseshit that is MMGW. They must ALL be in the Koch brother's pocket.
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The Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine (OISM) describes
itself as "a small research institute" that studies "biochemistry,
diagnostic medicine, nutrition, preventive medicine and the molecular
biology of aging." It is headed by Arthur B. Robinson,
an eccentric scientist who has a long history of controversial
entanglements with figures on the fringe of accepted research. OISM also
markets a home-schooling kit for "parents concerned about socialism in
the public schools" and publishes books on how to survive nuclear war.

In 1998 the OISM circulated the Oregon Petition, a deceptive "scientists' petition" skeptical of global warming, in collaboration with Frederick Seitz.
 
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ChesusRice

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MuyLocoNC said:
Yeah, I don't get my info from them. However, I do stand with the 31,000 American scientists that signed the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine's global warming petition against the horseshit that is MMGW. They must ALL be in the Koch brother's pocket.
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The Oregon Petition, sponsored by the OISM, was circulated in April 1998
in a bulk mailing to tens of thousands of U.S. scientists. In addition
to the petition, the mailing included what appeared to be a reprint of a
scientific paper. Authored by OISM's Arthur B. Robinson, Sallie L. Baliunas, Willie Soon, and Zachary W. Robinson,
the paper was titled "Environmental Effects of Increased Atmospheric
Carbon Dioxide" and was printed in the same typeface and format as the
official Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. Also included was a reprint of a December 1997, Wall Street Journal editorial, "Science Has Spoken: Global Warming Is a Myth", by Arthur and Zachary Robinson. A cover note signed "Frederick Seitz/Past
President, National Academy of Sciences, U.S.A./President Emeritus,
Rockefeller University", may have given some persons the impression that
Robinson's paper was an official publication of the academy's
peer-reviewed journal. The blatant editorializing in the pseudopaper,
however, was uncharacteristic of scientific papers.


In addition to the bulk mailing, OISM's website enables people to add
their names to the petition over the Internet, and by June 2000 it
claimed to have recruited more than 19,000 scientists. The institute is
so lax about screening names, however, that virtually anyone can sign,
including for example Al Caruba, a pesticide-industry PR man and conservative ideologue who runs his own website called the "National Anxiety Center."
Caruba has no scientific credentials whatsoever, but in addition to
signing the Oregon Petition he has editorialized on his own website
against the science of global warming, calling it the "biggest hoax of
the decade," a "genocidal" campaign by environmentalists who believe
that "humanity must be destroyed to 'Save the Earth.' . . . There is no
global warming, but there is a global political agenda, comparable to
the failed Soviet Union experiment with Communism, being orchestrated by
the United Nations, supported by its many Green NGOs, to impose
international treaties of every description that would turn the
institution into a global government, superceding the sovereignty of
every nation in the world."

When questioned in 1998, OISM's Arthur Robinson admitted that only
2,100 signers of the Oregon Petition had identified themselves as
physicists, geophysicists, climatologists, or meteorologists, "and of
those the greatest number are physicists."
 
MuyLocoNC

MuyLocoNC

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ChesusRice said:
The Oregon Petition, sponsored by the OISM, was circulated in April 1998
in a bulk mailing to tens of thousands of U.S. scientists. In addition
to the petition, the mailing included what appeared to be a reprint of a
scientific paper. Authored by OISM's Arthur B. Robinson, Sallie L. Baliunas, Willie Soon, and Zachary W. Robinson,
the paper was titled "Environmental Effects of Increased Atmospheric
Carbon Dioxide" and was printed in the same typeface and format as the
official Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. Also included was a reprint of a December 1997, Wall Street Journal editorial, "Science Has Spoken: Global Warming Is a Myth", by Arthur and Zachary Robinson. A cover note signed "Frederick Seitz/Past
President, National Academy of Sciences, U.S.A./President Emeritus,
Rockefeller University", may have given some persons the impression that
Robinson's paper was an official publication of the academy's
peer-reviewed journal. The blatant editorializing in the pseudopaper,
however, was uncharacteristic of scientific papers.


In addition to the bulk mailing, OISM's website enables people to add
their names to the petition over the Internet, and by June 2000 it
claimed to have recruited more than 19,000 scientists. The institute is
so lax about screening names, however, that virtually anyone can sign,
including for example Al Caruba, a pesticide-industry PR man and conservative ideologue who runs his own website called the "National Anxiety Center."
Caruba has no scientific credentials whatsoever, but in addition to
signing the Oregon Petition he has editorialized on his own website
against the science of global warming, calling it the "biggest hoax of
the decade," a "genocidal" campaign by environmentalists who believe
that "humanity must be destroyed to 'Save the Earth.' . . . There is no
global warming, but there is a global political agenda, comparable to
the failed Soviet Union experiment with Communism, being orchestrated by
the United Nations, supported by its many Green NGOs, to impose
international treaties of every description that would turn the
institution into a global government, superceding the sovereignty of
every nation in the world."

When questioned in 1998, OISM's Arthur Robinson admitted that only
2,100 signers of the Oregon Petition had identified themselves as
physicists, geophysicists, climatologists, or meteorologists, "and of
those the greatest number are physicists."
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That's awesome, did you get it straight from Al Gore's blog? Or some other blogger of even higher standing? It almost rises to the level of fraud perpetrated by the IIPC and the "cooked" number of climatoligists that signed on with them. That and all the false reports and scaaaary predictions that have now been exposed.
 
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ChesusRice

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MuyLocoNC said:
That's awesome, did you get it straight from Al Gore's blog? Or some other blogger of even higher standing? It almost rises to the level of fraud perpetrated by the IIPC and the "cooked" number of climatoligists that signed on with them. That and all the false reports and scaaaary predictions that have now been exposed.
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Nope
Got it from sourcewatch
About as non partisan as it gets
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Oregon_Institute_of_Science_and_Medicine
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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NoDrama said:
Everyone is a Hypocrite, some just have more money than others do. Some of us just sit around all day collecting transfer payments. Its not the only Gubbermint subsidy I participate in either.
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everyone is a hypocrite, not many people choose to be a hypocrite like you.

add hypocrisy to the list, right below plagiarism and general douchery.
 
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