Jigfresh's DIY Closet DWC Scrog 650w HID - Hindu Skunk & White Widow- First Grow Ever

Anyone still reading this?

jigfresh said:

Anyone still reading this?

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everyday, this is the only journal I watch with a close eye and look for updates

I am too man. Waiten for an upddate lol.

jigfresh said:

The plants are looking great. Bigger roots, more leaves, everything is bigger. And the color is just perfect. I feel like that liquid light really worked. I can't wait to mix it with the penetrator (sounds so dirty).

I added more nutes. It was down at 550 ppm. I added 60 +60 mL of Grow A+B. 38 mL Max Grow, 10 mL Silica, 5 mL Zone. I ended up adjusting it with 200 mL of the 10% pH down I mixed up.

Since plant #1 handled being cut so well, I went ahead and cut another one. This time it was #5. She got topped above her third node. She was the tallest by 1/2" - 1". Now all are pretty much the same height. I know the point of topping isn't to get different clones exactly the same height, but I figure the ones that are outgrowing the others could stand to be a bit more bushy. If I end up topping them all, should I top the two 'tall ones' twice?

I also installed the RO filter and flushed it. Man that water sure does taste like nothing. I taste my tap (160ppm) and it tastes like 'water', then the RO and it tastes like 'water flavored with nothing'. I guess that's the point, but it's just kinda weird.

Is is me or does anyone else HATE the grass 2 green ad? The one that says 'get paid to stay at home and smoke' and has a picture of a white guy with messy hair, a little beard thing and stupid goggles. Is that what they think pot smokers look like? I guess there are some that do, but how many of those idiots grow pot, and would be on this site. I'm not saying they are on the wrong website, but I bet that guy makes a lot of other people here laugh too.

I take tons of pictures. If anyone wants to see more of something let me know (and no you can't see any more of my body).

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hmm that was a update need to check the thread before posting ....... Looking good jig those were your clones that you got ??? dam looking good man getting bigger every time you post wish i could say the same......I like to get my tops even to i heard it helps the colas when they have a even canopy...check ya later keep the girls happy

Thanks a lot guys. I won't bitch anymore.

So the girls are doing great. I really want to spray the 'Liquid Light' again, but I'm going to wait til tomorrow. Dutch Master says every three days. So we wait.

Not too much happened today. I just mist them probably once an hour or so, with distilled water.

I topped another plant last night. I cut the #5 plant. In case you aren't following closely, they are ordered 1-6 from front left to right, rear left to right. I have already cut #1. So #5 is already looking good after being hurt. She has taken advantage of the new light getting onto her bottom leaves.

The nutes are up at 710 ppm. Dutch Master says 800 the first 2 weeks. The water kinda smells funky, but it is still clear for the most part.

Question: I have my two small fans blowing all the time. They are set on 'low'. There is a 'high' setting. Do you think I should turn them on high for any reason?

I don't think I will need to strengthen the stems that much, as I'm doing a scrog. I have been reaching in and bending things around just to give them a work out. It is crazy how strong they are, I guess that's why they use hemp for rope and stuff. I guess it's because of the topping, but plant 1 has such a strong stem. I can't bend it even a little.

I've also started an album for pics. I know I have a bunch here, but I'm going to make an album for each, show how they progress.

Here's a breakdown of costs and source (sub totals on top and bottom):

Sub-Total (lighting) 176.54
Sub-Total (nutrients) 336.88
Sub-Total (water) 161.54
Sub-Total (hydroponics) 161.54
Sub-Total (ventilation) 240.06
Sub-Total (meters) 165.18
Sub-Total (misc) 305.51

Total 1547.25

Lighting-
Strap Tie .80 Ace
Sheet Metal 14.75 Home Depot
Glass 0 My House
Chain (6') 2.64 Home Depot
Hardware 3.30 Ace
Socket *5.90 plantlighthydroponics.com
400w MH Conv Lamp *39.90 plantlighthydroponics.com
430w HPS Lamp *39.90 plantlighthydroponics.com
400w HPS Ballast *64.90 plantlighthydroponics.com
Tax 1.75
Sub-Total (lighting) 176.54


Nutrients/Supplements-
MagiCal (1L) 10.80 Emerald Garden
Liquid Light *50. Quail Mountain Ranch
pH Up & Down (1 gal) *37.80 plantlighthydroponics.com
DM Grow A+B (5L) *37.90 plantlighthydroponics.com
DM Flower A+B (5L) *37.90 plantlighthydroponics.com
DM Potash+ (1L) 16.95 wormsway.com
DM Max Flower (1L) 17.95 wormsway.com
DM Max Grow (1L) 17.95 wormsway.com
DM Zone (1L) 23.95 wormsway.com
DM Silica (1L) 22.95 wormsway.com
DM Penetrator Gold (1L) 29.95 wormsway.com
Shipping *22.59 wormsway.com
Tax 10.19
Sub-Total (nutrients) 336.88


Water-
Distilled (36 gal) *31.55 Walmart
RO Filter *129.99 *123filter.com
Sub-Total (water) 161.54


Hydroponics-
pvc t's (10) 2.32 Lowe's
1/2" pvc (5') 1.43 Lowe's
pvc bushings (2) 1.06 Lowe's
#15 o-ring (2) 1.18 Lowe's
1/2" od pvc elbows (2) 4.44 Lowe's
1/2" id vinyl tube (2') 0.62 Lowe's
37 gal Tote 16.24 Home Depot
pvc root netting 14. Home Depot
4-way airpump splt. 6. Petco
1" Airstone (2 x 4pk) 6. Petco
6" Airstone (2) 4. Petco
Air Pump (60 gal) 27. Petco
Air Hose (25') 6. Petco
6" Netpots (10) *11.90 plantlighthydroponics.com
Hydroton (9 L) *12.90 plantlighthydroponics.com
Commercial Airpump *39.90 plantlighthydroponics.com
Tax 6.55
Sub-Total (hydroponics) 161.54


Ventilation-
2" ABS Elbow (2) 3.90 Home Depot
2" ABS ( 2') 3. Home Depot
Vent Cover (4') 2.18 Home Depot
Vent Cover (6') 2.40 Home Depot
Roof Patch (tube) 4.78 Home Depot
Fan Thermostat 23.78 Lowe's
4" Flex Ducting (25') 18.14 Lowe's
3" Vent Top 9. Home Depot
3" Vent Pipe 9. Home Depot
6" to 4" Vent *12.90 plantlighthydroponics.com
6" 465 cfm Fan *79.90 plantlighthydroponics.com
Fan Controller *19.90 plantlighthydroponics.com
110 cfm Fan *12. Surplus Center
Fan Cord *1.50 Surplus Center
Two Speed Fan (2) *16. Surplus Center
Ship. & Hand. *16.16 Surplus Center
Tax 5.52
Sub-Total (ventilation) 240.06


Meters-
Digital Remote Therm. 10. Target
Thermometer/Humidity 7. Ace
Hanna pH TDS Meter *134. eseasongear.com
Ship. & Ins. *12.94 eseasongear.com
Tax 1.24
Sub-Total (meters) 165.18


Other/Misc.-
Plants (6) 60. LAPCG
Power Strip 4. Target
Extension Cord 3.50 Target
Metal Tape (2) 14.56 Lowe's
Screen (stucco sheet) 8. Lowe's
3-way outlet splitter 3.73 Home Depot
Sprayer 7. Home Depot
Measuring Cup (lg) 10.50 Emerald Garden
Measuring Cup (sm) 5.50 Emerald Garden
Timer *14.90 plantlighthydroponics.com
Shipping *136.40 plantlighthydroponics.com
Tax 10.42
Sub-Total (misc) 305.51


Sub-Total (lighting) 176.54
Sub-Total (nutrients) 336.88
Sub-Total (water) 161.54
Sub-Total (hydroponics) 161.54
Sub-Total (ventilation) 240.06
Sub-Total (meters) 165.18
Sub-Total (misc) 305.51

Total 1547.25

wow nice investment man. Im 450$ into mine with much more to go. I cant wait to see how yours turns out.

jeez all that money!

my grow is at about 500$. i need to drop another 100$ on nutes tho

2oz per plant will make it worth it.

and about fans, you should be fine, especially if doing a scrog. more speed means the fan draws more power and if your temps are ok, and your air flow is ok(short plants of course it is), and stems are strong, then no need, right?

good luck they look great

Tronica said:

2oz per plant will make it worth it.

and about fans, you should be fine, especially if doing a scrog. more speed means the fan draws more power and if your temps are ok, and your air flow is ok(short plants of course it is), and stems are strong, then no need, right?

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I'm really hoping for 3 oz per. What do you guys think is the absolute max I could get? I'm not saying I'm going to do it, but is 5 oz per plant even possible in my set-up? I know some of those outdoor guys get like 1.5 lbs per plant, but those are like 8' monsters.

And I agree about the fans. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything.

More Liquid Light today.

Thanks again guys for reading and offering suggestion.

Very much appreciated.

Hey guys. Plants are looking great. I sprayed them this morning with Liquid Light. I feel like they enjoy it.

The light has been very slowly lowered. Now it is around 16 inches from the tops.

I'm going to top the White Widow tonight. She looks a little more tall and thin that the others. I would like her to bush out a little. She has the longest roots out of all of them.

My intake has always been too small for the exhaust, so today I cut a new hole, so the intake is twice as big. While I was at it I also cut some fabric I had to make insect protection. I lined the vent covers before I put them over both the intake and exhaust. I also finished taping up around the light intake.

So guys, 5 oz. per plant, is that possible in my set up? I'm not asking if you think I will do that, just if it is even possible?

I have no idea what your going to yield, but those plants are lookin excellent man. I hope those girlies will get them dam faeries to make my plants look like that lol.

coming along nice.....how old are those clones from when you bought them ????? getting big. and i noticed that your intake is only holes and pipe ?? no fans ?? thats nuts guess you got the temp in there controlled as for the harvest hmm i am not to sure but i thought with that kinda of a stepup you might be looking at a oz per plant from what i have been reading but we will see

Hulk Nugs said:

coming along nice.....how old are those clones from when you bought them ????? getting big. and i noticed that your intake is only holes and pipe ?? no fans ?? thats nuts guess you got the temp in there controlled

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I bought the clones 2.13 and they had been cut on 1.30. I don't know when they sprouted roots, but you can check the pictures I posted on that date to see what the roots looked like. Like I said before they were each in about 1.5"x1.5" pieces of rockwool. So the roots were only like 1/2 and inch long, and super tiny thin.

I have 2 intake holes on the bottom of the door. Then I have a fan screwed onto the door blowing out, up at the top (where the other vent cover is).

The tube is drawing cool air bringing it up to the fan for the light. I ran it outside so I didn't have to use any growing space.

Plants look good today, I'll update you guys later. Plus my mother in law is staying with us for a few days so I might lag.

i was trying to figure out how long you have had them and how big have they gotten in that time .......my clones are not growing so i was trying to look at your time frame and growth. ill check the thread

Hey guys,

I was going to cut the white widow (plant 6) last night, but I didn't keep track of time, and my lights went out. So I ended up cutting her tonight. The other two I cut just before their night, this one I cut 3 hours before night. I think I like the first way better. She doesn't look very happy.

Other than that, I picked up a 'hurricane glass' candle cover thing at Michaels. I'm going to make a cool tube type thing, per our good buddy Tronica's instructions.

https://www.rollitup.org/do-yourself/161300-batwing-reflector-cool-tube-40-a.html

I'm also going to pick up some SuperThrive soon. Just for fun.

Oh, I also went to the pet store again for more airstones and fittings. Here's what I have seen. I have the two pumps, the powerful one is bubbling two plants, and the less powerful the other four plants. Those two plants that have the more oxygen have the biggest and most roots. SO... I'm going to make it so the powerful pump bubbles all 6 plants and the weak pump will power 4 small airstones at the bottom of the rez.

Here's my setup pic again in case you are confused (of course the pic might confuse you too).

Plants look about the same, just a little bushier, so I won't post any pics. If this upsets you, just yell and I'll keep the pics coming more regularly. Wouldn't want to disappoint the fans.

The girls are also getting thirsty. I can notice a differnce in the level gague throughout the day. I'm pumped.

lol that diagram got me lost : P. Well I cant wait to see picture updates to straighten me out lol. Cant wait to see how your slh seeds turn out when you get them, (sorry if I dropped a spoiler)

Hey guys, I've been neglecting things due to the visiting fam. My plants haven't noticed though. They are happy. Big bushes. Nothing new to report other than growth and beauty.

Can I bitch for a minute? It's about pot. So in cali, i'm sure you guys are aware, you need a doctors recommendation to be legal. Basically you go to an office with a note from a 'conventional' doctor that says you have xxx (anxiety, cancer, ...) pay them $100 and you get a recommendation that lasts a year. So it is time for me to renew my thing on Feb 26. I received an email from my doctor place saying I qualified for a discount. I sent them the paperwork and check almost 3 weeks ago. I should have received it in the mail by now.

So I get a call today at 4:45 pm. It is a person from a message center, that can't answer any questions, just tell me the message. The message: 'You should not have received the offer you did. It is not valid for you. You will have to send us a check for the remaining amount in order to get your renewal'.

So they let me know 2 days before my expiration at the end of the day that basically I'm fucked. Friday I would be a felon.

Needless to say I will no longer be using naturalcare4wellness.com as my doctor service. I'm going to a new place in the next couple days.

Survolte said:

lol that diagram got me lost : P.

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Looking at my diagram gets me confused and I know what it means.

Survolte said:

Cant wait to see how your slh seeds turn out when you get them

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YOU can't wait???

Survolte said:

(sorry if I dropped a spoiler)

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I'll learn to forgive you.

Pics are of each plant in order. Then I have the tops I cut off. I have my finger on the nubs, you can see the growth that has sprung up around them. The first was cut 4 days ago, the second 3 days ago, the last I cut last night. Lastly some root porn. Plant #3, #6, #4 in that order in case you are keeping track. The green airstones are from the big airpump, the black from the small. The one with the black airstone has the most roots of any of the others on the small airpump. Confused, don't worry about it. I'm changing it anyways.

Last pic of one of our girls sleeping.

Thanks for reading ya'll.

u could definitely pull 5 oz per plant with that setup. and u just might do so depending on how long u veg, what training techniques u use, and if u clone.

but ur goal should be quality over quantity. focus on growing happy plants

so far everything looks really nice and green

5 oz a plant, 6 plants, 30 oz, 30x28g=840 grams, most large growers dont get that with 1000 w setups, with Co2.

in a 3x3 area, with Co2, and a 600 watt bulb, you will be lucky to see 12 oz.

read other threads, check my math.


1000 grams, (2.2 pounds)O is best yo0u can do with a 1000 what bulb, in a 4x4 to a 5x5 area. the 1 gram a watt isw a goal of most big growers, a closet grow, if well set up, should get minimum .5 grams a watt.

looking good man .....you are veging right now right ?? that would be sick if you could pull 5 oz per plant ....... just remeber since this is your first grow your learning...... i am hopping that every grow after the first will yield more then the last..........how long does it take you to go threw a 1 oz ??