JigFresh's Grow #2 : Vertical Scrog - closet diy dwc - 650w - Headband + Casey Jones

tom__420

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Yeah dude killer background tunes
The plants are getting huge dude, those hydro are like a solid mass of plant
Aren't you lucky
 

snow4aaron

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Hey Jig
I'm thinking about getting an RO water unit. Which one did you get? Does it have a tank? How long does it take to change your reservoirs? Do you like the function of it?
 

jigfresh

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Hey Jig
I'm thinking about getting an RO water unit. Which one did you get? Does it have a tank? How long does it take to change your reservoirs? Do you like the function of it?
I love mine. It has a 3 gallon tank. It's rated for 50 gallons per day, but I have really high water pressure, so I get more.

The key for me is my water bottles. I just have 8 now... when I want to change the water (like right now) I fill 3 up, wait a little bit fill another, blah, blah. It was a bit of a pain getting enough water for my big 28 gallon tank, but my little ones are much easier.

http://myworld.ebay.com/123filter*com/

I liked mine so much, I had my neighbor order from them too... and her's works great as well.

One thing I ran into with her's.... the o rings weren't properly seated in the filter covers. I would make sure of that when you get yours. Not a big deal, it will just leak a bit when you turn it on... easy enough to fix then, but might save yourself trouble and check first.
 

bigbrew

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You can also add RO tanks in series to get higher capacity of storage if you dont want to wait for the 3 gallon tank to refill. Usually takes about an hour.
 

snow4aaron

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You can also add RO tanks in series to get higher capacity of storage if you dont want to wait for the 3 gallon tank to refill. Usually takes about an hour.
Is it hooked up permanently under your sink or do you screw it in to the tap when you need it?
 

jigfresh

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Is it hooked up permanently under your sink or do you screw it in to the tap when you need it?
Permanent is a strong word. It is installed to the point it would take me about 15 minutes and i could have it out of there. There is a fixture you put in between the cold water source and the regular faucet, that leads to the filter then the tank then a brand new shiny faucet you have to install somewhere.

When I want some RO water I just go in and turn on my alternate faucet.
 

jigfresh

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Alright guys here it is... finally. The soil plants got watered. I gave them 1/2 gallon each... I think they needed about half that. Used the molasses and Oregonism. The ph was 6.0 going in. The run off was 6.1 and 6.7 for the 2 pots. I measured the soil and it said one was 5.5 and another 5.2. Don't really know how that works. I mean if I put 6.0 into 5.5 or 5.2 soil, it should come out lower, not higher. I'm not to worried about it. As long as I adjust the water going in and the plants look happy I should be ok.

And they do look happy.

One really stupid thing I did was when the plants were out in my room, I was dancing around and tossing a gatorade bottle in the air... i missed it and of course it heads right for the Purple Kush plant. Just misses landing on top of it, but slammed against it. I'm sure the plant is fine, but I nearly killed her. Oops.

The hydro girls are still getting bigger. I spent a long time the other day trimming and training them. I think I have a little system figured out... the question is whether that system is any good or not... I think we'll know by the middle of flowering.

I'm basically letting the branches I want to fill the screen grow... training them back. All the side branching off those main ones, I'm trimming after the first or second node, so not too much is 'sticking out' of the screen. Only a couple inches of small side branches. I figure I can trim them later if I want, but I can't put them back later, so I leave them.

Speaking of training, they both aren't sending any branches out the back of the screen. Nice for me.

Last night I was changing out the water in both of them, and was going to recalibrate my meter.... something happened and it's all screwed up now. I'm really not sure what to do... I'm totally in the dark. I basically adjusted the new water by memory. It's seriously horrible. My meter reads brand new ph 7.01 buffer at 8.04. And brand new ph 4.01 buffer at 5.08... With that I can kinda guess where my plants should be, but the pH gets funny the first day or so... I really should be adjusting right now, but I can't. DAMN.

Oh, and the roots of these hydro girls are nicer than the roots of any of my first two grows. There are a couple near the net pot that are thicker than spagetti.

I think I already said this, but I'm thinking of switching things up just a bit. I think I might not grow them as tall... maybe fill 3.5 feet of screen instead of 4.5 feet. Then I can put the lights next to eachother instaed of spread out and staggered. Becuase the point of this grow... other than fun, is to make quality, tight, mean buds... and I think with my lights spread out... the buds that would be in the 'gap' would be a bit fluffy. What's the point of going through all this work for half dense, half fluffy nugs... nothing.

I'm still thinking about it, but I'm pretty sure that's how things will end up. No hurry in changing anything... the only difference will be the screen being actually shorter, and I think I'm going to raise up the buckets to get them more 'in the light'.

How bout them dodgers. Just crazy. :eyesmoke:

Pics are of the soil plants before and after watering. The brown stuff is the water and the oregonism. The first two pics are sour grape... then PK for a bit... the final soil pic in the closet is the sour grape again.

The hydro has pics before and after the trim/train. You can see the branches after. How purple is the sour grape? Wild.

The pics of the trimmings... the smaller collection is from the Sour Grape, the bigger collection is from Casey Jones.

What to do about pH meter?
 

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neversummer28

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truly remarkable jigs... a beautiful sight and will only get better. how much water is each one of those hydro girls drinking each day? as for the pH meter, is yours auto-calibrating or manual?

and i like the artistic take on some of your pics, particularly the one with the clipped leaves on the floor. reminds me of the game 'flower' on ps3.
 

Fred Flintstoner

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Alright guys here it is... finally. The soil plants got watered. I gave them 1/2 gallon each... I think they needed about half that. Used the molasses and Oregonism. The ph was 6.0 going in. The run off was 6.1 and 6.7 for the 2 pots. I measured the soil and it said one was 5.5 and another 5.2. Don't really know how that works. I mean if I put 6.0 into 5.5 or 5.2 soil, it should come out lower, not higher. I'm not to worried about it. As long as I adjust the water going in and the plants look happy I should be ok.

And they do look happy.

One really stupid thing I did was when the plants were out in my room, I was dancing around and tossing a gatorade bottle in the air... i missed it and of course it heads right for the Purple Kush plant. Just misses landing on top of it, but slammed against it. I'm sure the plant is fine, but I nearly killed her. Oops.

The hydro girls are still getting bigger. I spent a long time the other day trimming and training them. I think I have a little system figured out... the question is whether that system is any good or not... I think we'll know by the middle of flowering.

I'm basically letting the branches I want to fill the screen grow... training them back. All the side branching off those main ones, I'm trimming after the first or second node, so not too much is 'sticking out' of the screen. Only a couple inches of small side branches. I figure I can trim them later if I want, but I can't put them back later, so I leave them.

Speaking of training, they both aren't sending any branches out the back of the screen. Nice for me.

Last night I was changing out the water in both of them, and was going to recalibrate my meter.... something happened and it's all screwed up now. I'm really not sure what to do... I'm totally in the dark. I basically adjusted the new water by memory. It's seriously horrible. My meter reads brand new ph 7.01 buffer at 8.04. And brand new ph 4.01 buffer at 5.08... With that I can kinda guess where my plants should be, but the pH gets funny the first day or so... I really should be adjusting right now, but I can't. DAMN.

Oh, and the roots of these hydro girls are nicer than the roots of any of my first two grows. There are a couple near the net pot that are thicker than spagetti.

I think I already said this, but I'm thinking of switching things up just a bit. I think I might not grow them as tall... maybe fill 3.5 feet of screen instead of 4.5 feet. Then I can put the lights next to eachother instaed of spread out and staggered. Becuase the point of this grow... other than fun, is to make quality, tight, mean buds... and I think with my lights spread out... the buds that would be in the 'gap' would be a bit fluffy. What's the point of going through all this work for half dense, half fluffy nugs... nothing.

I'm still thinking about it, but I'm pretty sure that's how things will end up. No hurry in changing anything... the only difference will be the screen being actually shorter, and I think I'm going to raise up the buckets to get them more 'in the light'.

How bout them dodgers. Just crazy. :eyesmoke:

Pics are of the soil plants before and after watering. The brown stuff is the water and the oregonism. The first two pics are sour grape... then PK for a bit... the final soil pic in the closet is the sour grape again.

The hydro has pics before and after the trim/train. You can see the branches after. How purple is the sour grape? Wild.

The pics of the trimmings... the smaller collection is from the Sour Grape, the bigger collection is from Casey Jones.

What to do about pH meter?
Thats a lot of bush ;) Subscribed for sure.
I use a combo PH/EC/PPM waterproof digital meter from Hanna. Model HI 98129 to be exact good sir ;)
 

Hulk Nugs

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dam Jig!!!!!!!!!! :eyesmoke: The Screen plants are looking great man, cant believe how big there getting so fast and all the new growth is filling in the plant so nicely. Still cant believe you went for two soil plants at the same time sure is going to keep you busy man but dam when harvest comes shit are you going to be happy :mrgreen:. Another good thread by Jig and we are only half way if that keep it up man.

bongsmilie
 

bigbrew

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Jig, every time I check your thread I think to myself, how the fuck does he make that vertical scrog shit happen. I know you walked us through and through but damn, I'll just admire your setup from afar while I tend to my simpleton setup. Keep it up, I would hate to get bored with RIU and have to read a book or something.

Peace.

Oh, btw, are you planning on making any bubble hash with that purp? If so I gotta get a look at some purple hash!
 

jigfresh

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Hey fred flinstoner.... nice to have you along for the ride.

the cloudy week method worked great, i should have put a stronger fan on them. had mold on a couple of the top buds. i trimmed it all off and put it in the freezer. moldy hash buds? ordering my bags today. yippie!!!

i really wish i could of spent more time with you, maybe in 7 months when he gets back. his wife just texted me saying she got a message saying he just landed in iraq.
I'm glad your boy got there safe... we are all proud of him.

I would love to hang out again kevin. Either out west or in the heart of TX.

I would think the moldy buds would be fine for making hash. Don't tell anyone, but I've even smoked moldy hash (felt like I was on drugs)

You can also add RO tanks in series to get higher capacity of storage if you dont want to wait for the 3 gallon tank to refill. Usually takes about an hour.
Nice tip... I'm out of under counter space, but love the idea.

Thanks

:mrgreen:heheheh, I like your style,, slick:eyesmoke: get jiggy bro!:blsmoke:
Well.... you never know what might happen.

how much water is each one of those hydro girls drinking each day? as for the pH meter, is yours auto-calibrating or manual?

and i like the artistic take on some of your pics, particularly the one with the clipped leaves on the floor. reminds me of the game 'flower' on ps3.
They aren't drinking too much... maybe 1/2 gallon a day. I need more air movement, looking at my fans right now. Once they are in I beleive the plants will drink more. There will be more of that exchange they do. I'm so scientific (haha).

My mete is supposedly automatic calibrating. You stick it into 7.01 buffer.... then 4.01 buffer (for two point cal.). My meter doesn't recognize them. I would guess I contaminated the buffers... but they are brand new.

I liked that game flower.... not enough to buy, but I liked it.

all the new growth is filling in the plant so nicely.
This is one of my favorite parts... how even with the thinning I've done, there is still little bits of new growth and tiny side branches filling things in nicely.

Keep it up, I would hate to get bored with RIU and have to read a book or something.

Oh, btw, are you planning on making any bubble hash with that purp?
Reading books is just no fun, haha. It sucks they are so full of information. bah.

And yes bubble hash will be made from all strains. I make buds and hash... that's it. (made butter before, but don't really care about edibles) My last grow, 2.5 oz of buds and 3.0 grams of hash.... all top notch Purple Kush.

Robotninja... I really wanted to run co2 this grow.... but with the way the air cooling is set up there is no way to use co2 without having it all get sucked away before it does anything. Thanks for looking out though... really appreciate it.

As for the pH meter solution... I went to the hydro store and ended up buying the strips and the drips, both. Just for the hell of it.

When I got home the pH of both tanks was somewhere around 6.7 (OH NO). I adjusted to where I thought was about 6.0. Then went to bed.

This morning I think both tanks are around 5.4. (DAMN).

So yeah... my girls have a first class seat on the pH rollercoaster.

It's nice to have a warranty on the meter, but are they going to send me new plants if mine get sick?

AND..... Baby skunks.
 

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smoote1987

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Training looks perfect! Sure you didn't study under Mr. Miyagi himself? Jig son has a nice ring to it :wink:. Just wait until all your roots get to the size of sharpies you won't be able to keep up with the thirst.

Keep it up.
 
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