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lusidghost

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So, back to this idea. What is this science being used on currently? Like I said before, I've never heard of it.
 

lusidghost

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Oh, never mind. You mentioned that it's used in aquariums. It seems like the whole concept is based on subtraction of nutrients. I don't see how that really helps a hydro grow. It may prevent imbalances, but at the risk of imbalance in the other direction. You would been bacteria that create individual nutrients as a byproduct, and bacteria that eats each individual nutrient and releases a byproduct that is a food source for opposite bacteria. And then somehow find the perfect ratios to perpetually balance everything.

If you're just trying to sterilize the water, use Pool Shock or bleach or whatever.
 

rootforme

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Oh, never mind. You mentioned that it's used in aquariums. It seems like the whole concept is based on subtraction of nutrients. I don't see how that really helps a hydro grow. It may prevent imbalances, but at the risk of imbalance in the other direction. You would been bacteria that create individual nutrients as a byproduct, and bacteria that eats each individual nutrient and releases a byproduct that is a food source for opposite bacteria. And then somehow find the perfect ratios to perpetually balance everything.

If you're just trying to sterilize the water, use Pool Shock or bleach or whatever.
Just think of it as a growing chamber for bennies. Many applications.
 

rootforme

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Hes finally done it. Its gone full circle, just like i was saying last week. The man has invented ORGANIC HYDRO

We take the synth noots, get the bacteria to EATS EM UP and make em organic. Organic and SAFE post organic bacteria poop
It's not just about breaking down organic compounds into usable nutrients for the plants it's about growing beneficial bacteria in general but if you don't see the benefit in that then that's your choice to ignore any benefit in your plant growth.
 

J232

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It's not just about breaking down organic compounds into usable nutrients for the plants it's about growing beneficial bacteria in general but if you don't see the benefit in that then that's your choice to ignore any benefit in your plant growth.
Have you ever used bennies in hydro before? Are you just repeating stuff you read?
 

Milky Weed

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It's not just about breaking down organic compounds into usable nutrients for the plants it's about growing beneficial bacteria in general but if you don't see the benefit in that then that's your choice to ignore any benefit in your plant growth.
Your talking about organic-fying (if thats even a word) extremly bio-available nutes into organic ones that may be harder to uptake.

Typically organic nutrients the plants have to work alittle harder to break it down and absorb it, and that added stress is why organic can produce strong smoke. (Thats what bugbee said anyways)

There are ways to get the same results from regular hydro.
 

jondamon

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One thing that @bk78 touched on, with coco it holds onto Ca and Mg and releases back K to the roots which is why more often coco specific formulations tend to have higher levels of Ca and Mg than soil nutes for example.

what would be your way to test for Ca and Mg levels during the recirculating and to dose them back in possibly daily? @rootforme ?
 

rootforme

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One thing that @bk78 touched on, with coco it holds onto Ca and Mg and releases back K to the roots which is why more often coco specific formulations tend to have higher levels of Ca and Mg than soil nutes for example.

what would be your way to test for Ca and Mg levels during the recirculating and to dose them back in possibly daily? @rootforme ?
You would need a sensor although I'm not sure how expensive that would be. In recirculating rockwall irrigation systems how do they measure cal mag and npk concentrations? In DWC how do you measure individual concentrations?
 

Milky Weed

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You would need a sensor although I'm not sure how expensive that would be. In recirculating rockwall irrigation systems how do they measure cal mag and npk concentrations? In DWC how do you measure individual concentrations?
You can measure calmag concentrations of a rez by throwing a piece of larf in, if it floats, theres enough calmag. If it sinks, add more calmag.
 

jondamon

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You would need a sensor although I'm not sure how expensive that would be. In recirculating rockwall irrigation systems how do they measure cal mag and npk concentrations? In DWC how do you measure individual concentrations?
That’s straight water though or completely inert rockwool where as coco isn’t completely inert but I get what you’re saying.

I highly doubt you could recirculate the same solution much though and regular changes would undoubtedly be needed.
 
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