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bravedave

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I've experimented w different forms of light leaks and I can definitely say, beyond a shadow of doubt, I did not like what I saw. Just because some strains tolerate light interruption better than others does not mean it isn't detrimental towards ones goals. Monster cropping is another topic altogether.
Abe, are the details of your testing documented here somewhere? You do not mention hermies or foxtails so can we assume that is something that did not happen. Was this one grow? So we also have to assume ALL other things that may have contributed to your fluffy buds were held in check?
Most peoples light leaks are small and consistant and not giving "mixed signals". Most peoples light interruptions are short lived. The science is that most plants do not react at all to the light turning on for close to 10 minutes. Bottom line is you are giving little here with so little details and with results that could have been a humidity or heat problem.
 
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Bubblegum31

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Also, follow your own advice instead of speaking for RM3.
RM using his own methood in growing so Do I.
i would never adapt or grow Like RM and Am SURE that RM would never grow like me!
He has his own way and his own purpose of growing and I have my own purpose, each one grow for a different reason..
Hope you get the idea!
 

Bubblegum31

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Those lights leaks and me opening the door and close it many times with bright light is the only reason I could think of that cause them to herm.
Am here to learn and find the truth and to learn the best practice, nothing more so Is alot of ppl on this forum So I hope that we can communicate better ;)...

Bub
 

bravedave

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RM using his own methood in growing so Do I.
i would never adapt or grow Like RM and Am SURE that RM would never grow like me!
He has his own way and his own purpose of growing and I have my own purpose, each one grow for a different reason..
Hope you get the idea!
Wait, I thought you did adapt and grow like RM3 and that is why your grow fucked up...unlike the dozens of others(like myself) who utilize many if his techniques without issue. Ever theorize that maybe you might be better at bowling than growing? ;)
 

Olive Drab Green

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Those lights leaks and me opening the door and close it many times with bright light is the only reason I coukd think of that cause them to herm.
Am here to learn and dind the truth and the best practice, nothing more so Is alot of ppl on this forum So I hope that we can communicate better...
If you are here to learn, listen, because our friend RM3 and I agree: all herming comes from inferior genetics. Light leaks do not cause herming in stable genetics. That is the truth. Learn it.
 

Bubblegum31

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If you are here to learn, listen, because our friend RM3 and I agree: all herming comes from inferior genetics. Light leaks do not cause herming in stable genetics. That is the truth. Learn it.

I liesten learned and practiced BUT I choosed not to follow, and support the other openion !!
You okay with that???! :):)
 

Bubblegum31

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Wait, I thought you did adapt and grow like RM3 and that is why your grow fucked up...unlike the dozens of others(like myself) who utilize many if his techniques without issue. Ever theorize that maybe you might be better at bowling than growing? ;)
No I dont grow like RM!
 

Olive Drab Green

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I liesten learned and practiced BUT I choosed not to follow, and support the other openion !!
You okay with that???! :):)
If you are ok with never having a successful grow, sure, I'm alright with that. It's not my issue. It's yours. But you know, you could fix it if you listened, like you say you're choosing not to. Not to me, but the truth that everyone is telling you.
 

abe supercro

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Abe, are the details of your testing documented here somewhere? You do not mention hermies or foxtails so can we assume that is something that did not happen. Was this one grow? So we also have to assume ALL other things that may have contributed to your fluffy buds were held in check?
Most peoples light leaks are small and consistant and not giving "mixed signals". Most peoples light interruptions are short lived. The science is that most plants do not react at all to the light turning on for close to 10 minutes. Bottom line is you are giving little here with so little details and with results that could have been a humidity or heat problem.
Naw dave not controlled experiments. I think I made it clear earlier that turning a light on and off, briefly, in the dark period isn't a big deal. Start pushing the limits beyond that and see for yourself what happens. Just don't allow your plants to think it's time to go back into veg or you'll be making bubble hash out of your crop as a worste case scenario. Another generalization, this tends to be moreso true with sativa. Indica it seems requires more to snap out of flowering.

As far as hermies, it's strain dependant but those who have made seeds by light interruption, choose approx 1 full-hour in the middle of the dark cycle for lights-on.

When it comes to leaks, I've seen hermies form, right where the leak light rays are touching the plant, if that says anything.

Maybe @RM3 can elaborate or correct me on a finer point.
 
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Olive Drab Green

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I'm not doing it to be arrogant. I just figured if the guy would at least see that I can grow and that I'm not heckling him that he'd stop being proud and just see I'm trying to help. I'm pretty sure he had his heat over 80 and that's probably why his growth was stunted, his colas fox'd and he herm'd.
 

abe supercro

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Ultimately we all have to learn for ourselves, there's only so much you can read. Bubblegum did sound disappointed, he'll do better next time. And he knows he has to take full responsibility for his grow decisions, environment and genetics.

How about we let the OP have some of the next page tho lol.


16000 air-cooled watts is gonna be epic!
 

Olive Drab Green

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Ultimately we all have to learn for ourselves, there's only so much you can read. Bubblegum did sound disappointed, he'll do better next time. And he knows he has to take full responsibility for his grow decisions, environment and genetics.

How about we let the OP have some of the next page tho lol.


16000 air-cooled watts is gonna be epic!
You're right, it's not my place. I'm just concerned with the state of obscurity surrounding the field, and the dissemination of false or pseudo-right information is the biggest issue, and it's perpetuated by pride of people who follow the old info, SOME of which is baseless. But you're right, it's not my place.

Sorry, OP. Back to you.
 

Olive Drab Green

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I just sent that guy an apology for being rude and kinda getting pissed at him. I guess I got a little annoyed at what felt like his conscending attitude and disrespect towards me, like I couldn't grow or some shit. Sorry about the drama and pissy defensiveness.
 
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bravedave

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Naw dave not controlled experiments. I think I made it clear earlier that turning a light on and off, briefly, in the dark period isn't a big deal. Start pushing the limits beyond that and see for yourself what happens. Just don't allow your plants to think it's time to go back into veg or you'll be making bubble hash out of your crop as a worste case scenario. Another generalization, this tends to be moreso true with sativa. Indica it seems requires more to snap out of flowering.

As far as hermies, it's strain dependant but those who have made seeds by light interruption, choose approx 1 full-hour in the middle of the dark cycle for lights-on.

When it comes to leaks, I've seen hermies form, right where the leak light rays are touching the plant, if that says anything.

Maybe @RM3 can elaborate or correct me on a finer point.
What you were not clear on is what you actually did do as part of your "experiment". This example you warn about in this post is really not a light leaks issue to me.
 
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