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Olive Drab Green

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@a mongo frog

Fuck, I even turned my actual LEDs on after lights out to adjust for the next day and for measuring light intensity differences between my new and old light. For maybe 5 minutes. Still no herms.

Monster cropping involves taking a clone within the first 3 weeks of flower so that it revegetates and sprouts a million branches without needing to be topped.

Bottom line: if you can take a clipping from a flowering plant and clone it and reveg it--and it's a legitimate technique--@MadGreek's old school information is clearly outdated and false.
 

MadGreek

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So many idiots on forums its unbelievable.

Simply look up florinol production and light phases.

And don't look on a forum so idiots like yourselves can't mislead you. Again.
 

MadGreek

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I can see this forum hasn't changed.

A bunch of novices producing shitweed or absolute liars still voicing untruths and stupid ass opinions.

Off to advanced growing techniques. Maybe there are some more intelligent replies on those threads.
 

abe supercro

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I've experimented w different forms of light leaks and I can definitely say, beyond a shadow of doubt, I did not like what I saw. Just because some strains tolerate light interruption better than others does not mean it isn't detrimental towards ones goals. Monster cropping is another topic altogether.
 

Olive Drab Green

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I've experimented w different forms of light leaks and I can definitely say, beyond a shadow of doubt, I did not like what I saw. Just because some strains tolerate light interruption better than others does not mean it isn't detrimental towards ones goals. Monster cropping is another topic altogether.
How? It does the exact same thing, and worse. Reveg is pretty much the worst stress it can possibly go through. Like I said, there are quite a number of people who agree with what I've stated, RM3 included. He was the one who first theorized that it is entirely based on genetics.

I have light leaks. I have to enter th room a few times a day. I've turned on my LEDs on occasion. I have never had a herm. And the moon reflects sunlight. Pretty much, you're saying a full moon on a clear night will herm the plants.
 

abe supercro

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How? It does the exact same thing, and worse. Reveg is pretty much the worst stress it can possibly go to.
It occurs towards the beginning of flowering. If after once you've begun flowering, you mess around with a lot of light pollution (well after you monster crop method), it will usually affect your buds unfavorably, mainly the density.
 

Olive Drab Green

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I'm not seeing any issues so far. I'll let you know if any arise. I'd at least be up front about it. But I seriously don't think there'll be an issue. I'm not the only one who thinks this. I used to believe the light leak thing, too, until I played video games with the light on in my flower room after lights out with a curtain over the closet that left the bottom of the meristem and fans exposed. I did this every day and still yielded 3.8 ounces of dense, frosty, flavorful bud.
 

abe supercro

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It's science man. You may be able to get away with that, but the plant registers the light and you're giving it mixed signals, therefore making inefficient use of its allotted energy. Someone else can explain the moonlight theory better than me, proximity of the light source may have something to do with it.
 

Olive Drab Green

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It's science man. You may be able to get away with that, but the plant registers the light and you're giving it mixed signals, therefore making inefficient use of its allotted energy. Someone else can explain the moonlight theory better than me, proximity of the light source may have something to do with it.
Can you explain the science thoroughly and evidence it in a way that it is completely indisputable and in a way you can demonstrate that it isn't just genetics? Like, I respect you, Abe, but there's a lot of disinformation in this field. I just haven't seen this occur. RM3 also says it's all genetics. He may be the Fringe King, but he knows what he's doing/talking about.
 

abe supercro

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The only incontrovertible proof I have is I've experimented with light pollution and the results say, be careful if you're looking for weight and quality. I'm not a plant scientist, I'm more intuitive. A plant scientist would laugh at this convo and then rip us new asses.

Sure, some strains will be more forgiving than others. Yeah you can throw the lights on occasionally during the dark period, but don't see how far you can take it. Eventually you won't like what you see.

Also ODG, you're kinda a new grower to start boiling your roots just yet. ;)
 

Olive Drab Green

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The only incontrovertible proof I have is I've experimented with light pollution and the results say, be careful if you're looking for weight and quality. I'm not a plant scientist, I'm more intuitive. A plant scientist would laugh at this convo and then rip us new asses.

Sure, some strains will be more forgiving than others. Yeah you can throw the lights on occasionally during the dark period, but don't see how far you can take it. Eventually you won't like what you see.

Also ODG, you're kinda a new grower to start boiling your roots just yet. ;)
I suppose. :P
 

Olive Drab Green

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If this Big Buddha Blue Cheese tastes and smokes as good as it smells, it might be neck and neck with East Coast Sour Diesel for my favorite strain. Unless the Heavyweight Lemon Cake I'm prepping for my next run shows me something better.
 

Olive Drab Green

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A good cheese or blue cheese can be great medicine. Where is the lemon cake from, I've only heard of a cutting-only from Michigan?
Heavyweight Seeds. It's Lemon Skunk x Queso. My current run is Heavyweight Fruit Punch and BBBC. My next are Seedsman African Buzz (Malawi Gold x A faster flowering Malawi Gold phenotype), MWS Girl Scout Cookies, Lemon Cake, and cloning two clippings from my current run for a monster crop plant of each. If I don't flower them, I might consider mothering them.
 
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