Jwh-018

shepj

shepj

Oracle of Hallucinogens
pot scott said:
yes, but it would be quite a cost for a company to do basic urine test and those complex tests ur talking about.
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I do not see the price for the testing offered via redwoodtoxicology.. as they state:

Performed on QTrap LC/MS/MS equipment; providing definitive synthetic cannabinoid biomarker test results
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I would imagine it is an expensive test. I will use the military for my example, you take a piss test, I do believe it is gc (or lc)/ms'd.
 
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buddha18

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what kind of damiana are u smokin? mines some of the smoothest herb ive ever had.


manlookingj said:
I enjoy reading everyone comments. I've been making my own daiamna mixed with first. jwh018. waiting for a the right spray bottle. when i got one it turned out to be industrial big, for the little amount of mixed to misted over the substance;2 grams ended up costing like 90 bucks free shipping enough for like 70-75 grams of leaf. The sprayer didn't work right, I practicably spill and dripped it on there, figured i screwed it up. But no, after it was mixed and dried, it impressed me. A next batch of 18 and 73, gram each mixed with the same substrate. You dissolve the power in bout 40ml or more of acetone, pure. and once mixed and dried for a couple of days airing out all of the acetone is gone leaving good quality smoke. I guess the pure 18 is a little more intense and squirrely. but still pretty similar with different grades of real grass.
I started this endeavor with kind of a experiment of cleaning myself out, but cheating I suppose. Regardless I've got test strips for thc and after now, being a good thirty days, I still test positive. I read something about jwh18 has some effect the slowing the metabolism of drugs being purged from the body. So maybe it just takes longer to leave my system. Either that or I picked up some daminma leaf for 10 buck a pound on ebay that has some kick ass thc in it.
Either way, I do like the grass, but. One thing about it, the effects are pretty much the same in my opinion, and cost a lot less to have bout 100 bucks for three ozs quality incense.
As long as it's mixed I don't think you have the danger of taking too much. Although darmina leaf is harsh.
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shepj

shepj

Oracle of Hallucinogens
r7o2d6 said:
Man.. this shit isn't too good for you I wouldn't think. As well as the fact that it DOES show up on drug tests, Just not as weed, It shows up as amphetamine
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It is apparent that you should not think. How does a cannabinoid agonist (aminoalkylindole/naphthoylindole) show up as an alpha-methylphenethylamine?
 
Dubious06

Dubious06

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If you smoke a lot of bud, you end up falling asleep-- no harm, no foul. But what happens to you if you smoke too much JWH-- anyone here taken it too far? If so, what happened?

I'd also like to know its chemical composition, and what exactly the effects are on your physiology. I'm a bit of a science nerd with my drugs and like to know what exactly it's doing to my body and why. Good stuff guys, and nice thread C.H.69. Cheers.
 
boabbymac

boabbymac

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Dubious06 said:
If you smoke a lot of bud, you end up falling asleep-- no harm, no foul. But what happens to you if you smoke too much JWH-- anyone here taken it too far? If so, what happened?

I'd also like to know its chemical composition, and what exactly the effects are on your physiology. I'm a bit of a science nerd with my drugs and like to know what exactly it's doing to my body and why. Good stuff guys, and nice thread C.H.69. Cheers.
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well i smoked about 100mg of jwh-018 over a 12 hour period and i ended up munching fucking loads and passing out much the same as smoking a load of indica.
the best combo has got too be 25mg jwh-018 vaped in a lightbulb then 2 fat ass bongs of sour silver haze i honestly didnt know wether i was coming or going hahaha has got too be the best 'high' ive felt in a long time felt like id just smoked my first bong all over again!!!!
 
shepj

shepj

Oracle of Hallucinogens
Dubious06 said:
If you smoke a lot of bud, you end up falling asleep-- no harm, no foul. But what happens to you if you smoke too much JWH-- anyone here taken it too far? If so, what happened?
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Some people have panick attacks, but smoking too much of a sativa could render one to the same state.
 
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MakinProgress

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Don't take this scientifically... but I *think* it's impossible to OD in the same way it is with THC. You can have too much and feel anxiety, but I don't know anything about an actual OD.
 
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Dene

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pot scott said:
does anyone no the levels of jwh it takes to over dose?
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This Stuff is Dangerous!!!!!!! One whole gram of the White power should do it!!!!!!

I did A line! For those who do not use Drugs;;;; That is just a pinch about the amount of powder in a sweet and low packet!!!! I fell asleep And I was still Hallucinating when I woke up Six hours latter!
 
MORD

MORD

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Dene said:
This Stuff is Dangerous!!!!!!! One whole gram of the White power should do it!!!!!!

I did A line! For those who do not use Drugs;;;; That is just a pinch about the amount of powder in a sweet and low packet!!!! I fell asleep And I was still Hallucinating when I woke up Six hours latter!
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lol

I'm pretty sure you're supposed to SMOKE it.. not snort it... although I do love to stick things up my nose
 
Dubious06

Dubious06

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I don't think snorting it would of ever crossed my mind, but worth noting-- that made me laugh thanks. Good stuff, cheers.
 
GodsCreat0r

GodsCreat0r

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I had this stuff , and it was interesting , but i was hearing voices at some points .

I still pretter real bud tho , nothin beats the taste and the high .

Quality medecine i tell you

Also my joints had been a bit achy.
 
Hayduke

Hayduke

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shepj said:
Making that argument [death from panic attack], a 100% Sativa strain of marijuana could kill you as well
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OMFG...ROFLMAO...News flash! you can no die from smoking sativa!!!!...but 30g of JWH-xxx...now that is just fine!...Hey Melamine is just as fooking good as protein! put it in your infant formula...an Science Diet!...WOW!

shepj said:
Don't think that because you smoke pot, it is made for smoking..

Smoking anything (especially something green and chock-full of chlorophyll) is not going to be good for you (take a look at a chemistry equation for combustion). So let me give advice to you old people, don't think that smoking a plant is better than a chemical if you can't back up your reasoning.




Do you not realize that smoking something with as much chlorophyll as marijuana has in it produces more carbon monoxide than cigarettes? Stop saying smoking one thing is okay and smoking another is bad. Yes some things are worse than others, but you are not using any factual data! Nor are you taking into consideration that all combustions are incomplete and burning marijuana may have biproducts that when burned, do long term damage to your respiratory system.



The JWH-xxx series substances are made to hit the same receptors as marijuana, what makes you think they are dangerous? Simply because they are synthetic? Your argument sounds very uneducated.



I will bet that off of the top of your head you can not tell me 10 (of the 100+) terpenes found in marijuana. I will bet further that you can't even tell me what a terpene is off of the top of your head. Can you list all the 400+ chemicals found in marijuana? How about the probable 1000+ during combustion? Can you tell me which are carcinogens? No, I bet you can't. That's just ignorant man.
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Wow!!!!!!! Give me a break!!!!! you can't name any of that crap either...but all that stuff makes you sound really smart...but you smoke JWH-xxx...so now this old ignorant dude is confused???? I just learned that smoking pot is bad...hell a sativa just might kill me!!!! probably a big government conspiracy covering up all the cannabis deaths!!!!

You silly kids...raiding moms medicine cabinet...oh now we're out of robitussin!!! I'll just eat a bunch of these cough and cold pills...just to see what will happen!!! Heck this stuff sounds kewl...I took Ochem so I know what I am doing! Silly rabbit, Trix are for kids!

pot scott said:
but u lived...
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shucks...no Darwin award...;(

GodsCreat0r said:
I had this stuff , and it was interesting , but i was hearing voices at some points .
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Damn...sign me up!!!

:leaf::peace::leaf:
 
shepj

shepj

Oracle of Hallucinogens
Hayduke said:
OMFG...ROFLMAO...News flash! you can no die from smoking sativa!!!!
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OMFG...ROFLMAO...News flash! JWH-018 only has an affinity four-times that of THC, meaning if you were to die from JWH-018 from any other reason than reaching the LD-50, you would have died from four-times that amount in THC. Sativa's are notorious for making people really anxious (and I am sure people have had anxiety attacks), JWH-018 just gets you there faster due to its potency.


Hayduke said:
Wow!!!!!!! Give me a break!!!!! you can't name any of that crap either...
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Just because you do not understand how terpenes work nor their effects when in marijuana does not mean I do not. I can name many of them, as a matter of fact, I have a journal that I started probably about half a year ago with all the terpenes I could find documentation on that is present in cannabis to use as a flavor and aroma map.
 
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