K1Ng5p4d3's Cardboard Box Grow (hehe)

K1Ng5p4d3 said:

dude, you need a MH conversion bulb, not a dual arc bulb. MH conversion bulbs run on HPS ballasts. They are just like regular MH bulbs, but retrofitted to run on HPS ballast, trust me bro.

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I am pretty sure you need a ballast that can do it...

hps for hps... mh for mh... and IF you have a dual ballast you can run both...

Atea said:

Awww man i allmost pissed my self lmao!

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I must have missed something...

Oh check this out...

here are some of the shots from the harvest... more later....

GypsyBush said:

I am pretty sure you need a ballast that can do it...

hps for hps... mh for mh... and IF you have a dual ballast you can run both...



I must have missed something...

Oh check this out...

here are some of the shots from the harvest... more later....

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those look good to be small

good job

Gypsy you can use mh with a hps ballast as long as it's a MH conversion bulb.
they are expensive bulbs though, and put out like 2,000 less lumen's than a regular Mh bulb.

What you get like a onion of homegrown from that 3rd pic?
Some great bud shots

god damn dude, each of those nuggets have to be at least a half oz to an oz each. I think thats so fuckin beautiful dude, not the yield, but the way that each plant turned into one GIANT nug. I fuckin love that shit dude, i wish i could do that with bigger plants - i wanted to do a micro grow at first when i decided i was gettin serious into this, but now i want some weight. I smoke ALOT, lol, so in a three month period, which is how long it would take about from harvest to harvest, i would probably need 1/2 - 1 lb ,lol. N yeah, i know what your sayin - THATS ALOT TO FUCKIN SMOKE, but it aint just for me, its for my pops n mom, for me n the wifey, n for a friend here n there, so im tryin for the elbow this time around. I know i can accomplish it with 7 plants easy as long as i do everything i can to further along their progress, and it would probably be better to do somethin like this in dro - which is why im tryin to get Gypsys grow tactics up outta him, lol. I wanna do it on a bigger scale, but keepin the space it takes up on the floor to a minimum. Those shoebox hydro buckets are cool, and would probably handle 1 plant pretty well, rather than 4 plants like Zen did in his microgrow. If i were to use only one plant per shoebox, i think it would work out - what are those, like 3 gallon containers?? it would work man - the big challenge is gona be transplanting from soil to hydro. Id be doing it in about a week n 2 days when i get a little more ched into my hands...N i could definitely fit 7 of those into my tent with some room to spare for sure. hmmmmmm. My root systems are gonna be developed enough to survive the transplant (hopefully), and im gonna have to spray the ever loving shit out of their roots before i put them into the water buckets - or just do what i can, n wait for the transplant to take, n just empty out the rez n refill it with ph'd nutrient solution.

This is alot to think about now, lol. I kinda like it, cuz i was just gettin settled into my grow, n relaxin, but i like to be busy man, its fun. So hopefully i end up doin this. Its either this, or im gonna use the airstones and pumps anyways, for the soil grow (thank you NSW). you bastards and your fuckin grow methods.....your all fuckin confusin the everlovin shit outta me mann.. lol.

mane2008 said:

Gypsy you can use mh with a hps ballast as long as it's a MH conversion bulb.
they are expensive bulbs though, and put out like 2,000 less lumen's than a regular Mh bulb.

What you get like a onion of homegrown from that 3rd pic?
Some great bud shots

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yeh what mane said, lol. I actually just called my local dro shop guru to check into it for Thundercat, n hes tellin me as long as you get the Sodium conversion halide bulbs, you can use them on ANY hps ballast that you own as long as the wattage matches up. so TC, i wouldnt get that dual arc bulb man - i mean, im sure its cool to use, and probably really effective too, but your best bet would be to look into gettin the conversion bulbs. Theyre a little cheaper than your dual arc bulb too, probably by about 20 bucks, so look into that bro.

Also, somethin u might wanna know too, but i wouldnt recomend it - Is that you CAN actually run any MH bulb on a hps ballast. it WILL fire up and stay lit, but because its not meant for a regular MH bulb, they just dont consider it safe. i guess they did a test up at the dro shop, and they said they were able to run a MH bulb in a regular
HPS ballast for a complete grow, without any complications or blowouts, but he said that nobody should ever do that shit unless they have the money nd extra equipment to experiment like that cuz you could blow out your ballast, or the bulb could explode, lol.

But yeah, the entire reason they make those MH conversion bulbs are for the people who have HPS ballasts and wanna use both. The only wattage that NEEDS a conversion bulb no matter what ballast you have, is the 600w. they didnt make 600w MH bulbs until recently, they were all Conversion bulbs, n i dont know the reason why, but thats what they were, lol. I got a Illumalights 600w MH bulb, not a conversion, but its cheap and im gettin a conversion bulb from Growbright to replace it - bought from HTG supply. Apparently its like twice as bright as the illumalights brand bulb, but i dont see how, cuz mine was fuckin BRIGHT before i fucked with it, and it started to seem dimmer and dimmer every couple days.

Bah, im babblin again, but yeah TC, go grab the MH CONVERSION bulb. Its made for your specific situation, n id hate to see you throw away your extra money on a dual arc when all u need is the blue spectrum since you already have the red bro.

K, quick update time.

Corky is recovering from her Mg Deficiency. I fed her some epsom salt about three days ago, and the bronzing stopped spreading, and all of the leaves that had a case of the Claw went back to normal. So yesterday i hit her up with a dose of Cal mag plus, and now ill wait another two days and go back to her normal nutrient regimen, business as usual. Only i might start adding molasses now because shes only 3 weeks to harvest i think. Right now shes in week 5, n i dont wanna chop her early or anything, i just dont know her flowering time because its bagseed. Either way, im pretty sure you guys will put your two cents in reguardless on how much longer shell need when the time comes, so i aint worried, lol.


anyways, here is a few pics of her Bout with the deficiency, plus just over all pics. I untied her so she could stretch out in her last weeks now that shes got the room to do it, n shes lovin it. she already stretched another 4 inches since i did it three days ago, so i hope that extra height will also mean more bud since shes not all bunched up n the canopy isnt covering any budsites now.
















- nothin too major, other than bud production has finally become a priority in corky's life, lol. The bronzing was limited to only one branch, so all the damage shots are being taken from the angle of just the one branch. the rest of the branches are just fine, except the odd tip here and there with a brown spot on it, but like i said, if i didnt catch the problem 3 days ago, it would have spread over the entire plant by now and be lookin all sickly n ready to die on me, lol. So Hooray for me i guess on bein successful on that shit. But yeah man, shes gonna be lookin sexy in a couple weeks here, with some nice thick nuggets, just beggin to be picked - aint gonna look too bad for bagseed neither man. I cant wait

thanks for tunin in

-K1.

ok so heres the deal after recovery add molasses
its a regular 8 week plant its not sativa nor indica its a mix so u will be fine u can even flush next week and give pure molasses for the next couple weeks this will benefit weight and taste! I bet ur bottom twenty on it lol just a suggestion is it soil or hydro?

o its soil my dumb ass yea after next week is over which will be week six flush at 6.5 wks and start the molasses

yeh thats the game plan. thanks though bro for remindin me i should start next week rather than tomorrow tho, lol. N as far as it effecting weight n taste, i know it improves taste a little bit, but does it actually effect weight too?? i thought that it just provided some extra macro nutrients that help the plant along in producing more resin or some such shit. hmmm

*the more you know*

-K1

i had the same problem with Mg deficiency from the tap water i guess its too hard so i just started adding a tablespoon of epsom salt to every gallon of water i mix from now on. you can spray the leaves with the salt water too thats what i did and everything cleared right up havent had any problems since...

adding molasses or any type of sugar product like that can increase the yield by 20% at least according to mr cervantes...

K1Ng5p4d3 said:

yeh thats the game plan. thanks though bro for remindin me i should start next week rather than tomorrow tho, lol. N as far as it effecting weight n taste, i know it improves taste a little bit, but does it actually effect weight too?? i thought that it just provided some extra macro nutrients that help the plant along in producing more resin or some such shit. hmmm

*the more you know*

-K1

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yep it make them pussy hairs burst lol

yeh, ol Jorge's MAH BOI!!! lol, ill listen to that fucker any day of the week. I actually just ordered a couple books on indoor growin, 2 of them by Jorge, 1 by Ed, n i forget who the other author is, but theyre all on indoor growin, cept for a calander i bought O, n i got the big book of buds 2009 too, but that dont count

thats was up sounds like you gonna be hittin the books when they come huh lol

you read it yet K1?
whats in it?

yeah i got cervantes indoor/outdoor MEDICAL grow bible haha theres a pic in there that shows two of the same buds one that had sugar added to it and one that didnt...

DKskater75 said:

yeah i got cervantes indoor/outdoor MEDICAL grow bible haha theres a pic in there that shows two of the same buds one that had sugar added to it and one that didnt...

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googling it!!

nope mane it didnt come yet - every week i make orders n either upgrade my setup or my knowledge. Im waitin on my books to get here still - n yeah its the indoor grow bible, i cant member what the rosenthal book is called, i got the SOG book, the big book o buds, n a couple other quick 50 page books on setting up DIY hydro systems, and maintaining them. also started my own written journal to account for any problems i have, or anything else, so that way for future grows if i come across anything, i can always look it up in my journals from previous grows.

But i WILL for sure let you know what the bible talks about man - i hear its the greatest story ever told LOL

K1Ng5p4d3 said:

nope mane it didnt come yet - every week i make orders n either upgrade my setup or my knowledge. Im waitin on my books to get here still - n yeah its the indoor grow bible, i cant member what the rosenthal book is called, i got the SOG book, the big book o buds, n a couple other quick 50 page books on setting up DIY hydro systems, and maintaining them. also started my own written journal to account for any problems i have, or anything else, so that way for future grows if i come across anything, i can always look it up in my journals from previous grows.

But i WILL for sure let you know what the bible talks about man - i hear its the greatest story ever told LOL

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thats deep I cant wait for feedback!!!

Ok, so checkit

Today i decided to try out hydroponics. I set up my 3 gallon bucket with snap on lid with a 12" air stone n air pump, n threw my one blue cheese in there that was yellowing a couple days ago and hasnt really recovered yet. So i filled up the container, made sure it was ph'd, and i added a little bit of grow big. I dont have a ppm meter, so i just added 1/4 the recommended amount since the seedling is only about two weeks old almost. I did it Gypsy's way, with no basket, just a hole in the lid, and a rubber collar, since i didnt have any neoprene handy, and i did this shit on a whim just to see if the transplant would take.

So one of my BC's is in a dro setup now, and if it takes then next week ill be hookin up the other 6 plants(well, 5, cuz im probably gonna keep on in soil as a mother in my top grow box, n just veg the shit out of her forever, lol.

so ill post some pics tomorrow of the setup, and if im forgetting anything im sure you fuckers will lemme know, lol. Man i hope im not though, i was pretty sure i had everything covered except for the ppm meter, but you dont absolutely NEEEEEED that to get started in hydro, do you??