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lbow89 said:

thats some serious bubbles on page ten + rep, what size airstones are you using?

looks great tho man, wish i had my own home and dough like that to drop on good equipment.

+ rep keep up the good work and dont forget to take pics of the final crop.

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Air stones doesnt matter, the air pump matters. Stones dont create air, the pumps do. My pump is a 24w pump, and in a 55 gallon reservoir, its just right. Usually I like 1 watt per gallon of water, but my 55 gallon res isnt full all the time, in fact almost never since I just have 18 pots on it. I usually keep it 30-35 gallons.

Masterofgenetics said:

Subbed and nice pipe..I like your style maybe I will send some beans your way...

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Thanks!




.......Harvest TOMORROW! Yayyyyyyyyy!

No heat mat for the seedlings?

Btw, the green stuff building up on the rockwool, i am assuming its algae, isnt that a bad thing?

sdkid said:

No heat mat for the seedlings?

Btw, the green stuff building up on the rockwool, i am assuming its algae, isnt that a bad thing?

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There's a heat mat for the seedlings, it wasnt in those photos because the room that they are in is already a suitable temperature. The seed mats are really just for big cold rooms, if you have a smaller, warmer veg room with higher temperatures (which is beneficial to the plants in vegitative state) then the seed mats may be TOO much heat and burn the seeds. That's one of the reasons theres always a wireless thermometer in each room at the plant spots to ensure that temps are perfect all the time. Additionally humidity is always monitored by spraying the inside lids.

As for the algae, not really sure why a few cubes have that, but it isnt bad, its just green and ugly. Once they are in a bucket and filled from the bottom of the bucket to the lower part of the rockwool cube the algae will go away. I do see algae in the veg room in the clear tubing used for the buckets, but not in the room where they flower, which is a direct result of the canopy blocking the light in flower room, and not a canopy in veg since the plants arent exactly bushy that young. Something that is easy to fix. FloraKleen will nuke all that out of there next flush. Some may argue the algae part saying "Algae competes for plant nutrients" -- this is true, but its just a tiny bit on the top of rockwool. Its not like its all over a gigantic cube in a flood tray system, this is a 1" square coverage area that looks green. Wont hurt anyone!

Today I'd like to share the "day before harvest" pictures. You know damn well that I wont want to take pictures when I wake up, so this allowes it to get done =)


Pic 048: Some numbers I just love. 420 & 69.



Pic 049: Harvest is tomorrow morning, so this evening we took some of the major fan leaves off of the plants. Why? They arent going to benefit them much at all at this point, so, it helps light up the nugs underneath to get them a little more jucier. The goal is generally to harvest the top 2/3's of the plant, and let any popcorn sized nugs bulk up over a few days. Doing this speeds it up by one, which if you have 7 harvests a year, help to get you that extra week a year back.



Pic 050: I removed the side light shield to show the plants now that they are fan trimmed. The light panel is already back in place. The left side is A and the right side is C, so what you see is mostly the topped plants to the front of the camera. Plants are boring to photograph from the side because the fan leaves block them so much.



Pic 051: Bubblicious



Pic 052: Yum.



Pic 053: Yummmmmmm.



Pic 054: This plant, despite being topped properly, only has two tops, instead of four.



Pic 055: This is a properly topped plant, I cant see the strain twist-tie color, so not sure which strain it is. Notice at the site where the plant was cut when a baby has really beefed up and bulked out. There's a visible seam on the area which the top two branches meet the stem, and they are bulky and solid. However, if they get too heavy, they would most certainly be a huge risk of the branch leaning too heavy around weeks 6-8 of flowering, and break the branch.



Pic 056: This is the same plant as the photograph above, except you can see the whole thing just not where the branches meet the stem topping.



Pic 057:



Pic 058: This is ONE PLANT. It starts on the bottom left corner in the bucket, has about 4-5 tops, and then shoots to the side and up. New York Power Diesel/Nirvana strain.



Pic 059: This plant made a globular cluster. I've never seen quite as large of a top of any plant -- in my entire life. It's probably a mutation, but fun to look at nonetheless.



Pic 060: Front two plants are bubbleicious. A little more trimmed up and ready to be harvested in the morning.



Pic 061: One of the untopped plants, the side branches are juicy, full, and ready to go.



Pic 062: This is a New York Power Diesel/Nirvana strain -- again like picture 058. There's barely any nugs. It looks like a bush, not weed! It'll probably be a honey oil / hash candidate for the entire plant......... At first I thought it might need more flower time, but......



Pic 063: ...the nugs are present and the trichomes are cloudy. I dont think another 2 weeks would help this plant. I'll probably keep this one, picture 058's plant, and one other one under a single light for a week to see if they get a little jucier. Since I planned to do that, the fan leaves for the ones to juice up a bit more havent been cut at all.



Pic 064: I love you.




......till tomorrow.

Kitty

beautiful. Nice work.

I just wanna move in next to you.

pmp13drc13 said:

I just wanna move in next to you.

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The neighbors house is for sale actually!

Harvest completed, except for the NYPD. They will flower another week but all three look so fucking pittiful that I dont know what bag seeds Nirvana gave me instead, none of them look like NYPD. Either way, pictures later tonight or in the morning. Got a room full of nugs drying.

looks awesome im jealous. you're inspiring me to want to go soil-less when i get better at this.

hope you post your yield

Uncle Ben said:

Topped and uptopped, plants look great.

I disagree with laceygirl regarding the light thingie. Some of the best gardens I've seen are where 1,000W lights are hanging a meter above the plants. You gauge plant health by color and vigor. Too much light will bleach out chlorophyll....then you can just hang it up regarding your crop.

Heat and light saturation points are totally different issues. You WILL screw up a plant if you think you can hang a 1,000W lamp 30 cms from their tops while maintaining a cool or cold temp at leaf level.

Good luck,
UB

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i second that... i can't put my lights as close to my plants as they can go. leaves turn albino...;( just try it with a normal house plant. they seem to not be able to handle the hps intensity.

That mutant plant is awsome. Id love to have a clone of that crazy bitch! Then I could grow up a mom for a whole tray of mutants.

Nice Grow and sweet ass nugs. Cool idea testing them side by side.
Im excited to see how much u actually ended up with

Wow! very nice kitty girl. Nice toe's too, i can see you had a nice pedicure, haha!

Harvest complete. Total yield, 1796g from 3000w of lights. (There are 4 lights now, in the beginning we used 2, now we use 4, for 3 total over the 60 day flowering period). The yield was lower than anticipated due to the lighter plant canopy. Also NYPD turned out to be the most worthless strain, producing airy, fluffy, non-smelly top colas. Very disappointing strain that will never be in MY garden ever again.

The total yield of 1796g is dried weight. The largest top cola "nug" was about 40g in size. The plants that were topped provided jucier, fatter, denser nugs than those untopped. Topped plants provided an ounce more ***PER PLANT*** when comparing against others. All in all, the total report on topped vs untopped for me reads like this: Do it if you have seeds! Its worth it.

The pictures dont show the NYPD harvest, which was one week after the harvest of all the other plants. These pics are from before then. The pictures also dont show the room being stripped down, cleaned, bleached, re-insect permieter sprayed, all ballasts, lamps, hoods, fans cleaned, all pumps cleared and buckets spray cleaned, all hydroton washed in the bathtub, and I even got the floor painted white too instead of just grey concrete. =)

Sorry it took so long to update after harvest, I wanted to come back with real photos and DRY weights not this wet weight shit that most people post. =) Next batch of plants are under the lights, its smaller than this harvest so I probably wont start the grow journal up again until the current seeds ready for flowering in 3 weeks are ready for flowering, then we'll get down to a 3-harvest rotation with 6-1000w lamps.

Thanks for listening over the last 4 months while this journal took place, and that'll conclude and end it for me till about 3 weeks from now. I'll update this thread if anyone posts questions, just the next journal will be the blog style here rather than an open thread. Next time someone tells you girls cant grow, please direct them here.

sdkid said:

Wow! very nice kitty girl. Nice toe's too, i can see you had a nice pedicure, haha!

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One must have a perfect pedi!

really nice work, very professional - that goes for the glass blowing too! enjoy the bud and have fun with the glass!

Very professional like kingIV20 said.. That is a extremely nice harvest..

Top notch work Kitty!

My neck hurts from all the sideways pics.

Nice job kitty, 4 pounds is excellent. Did you make hash out of the by-product?

You sold me on topping. I was going to try an un-topped crop this run but after seeing your results I will continue cutting their little heads off. Do you think the increased weight was from re-direction of hormones/energy to the remaining branches, greater light penetration or something else maybe?

Do you use plant growth regulation?

Rusty: My neck hurts from taking the pics still! The topping increased weight is unknown exactly why they were substantially heavier, but I suspect its because its really four plants at that point. The colas were still quite large, and didnt seem to get smaller except on the one plant that had six tops by mistake. That plants colas were much smaller. It seems four is the winning amount. The light penetration was identical for each 9 untopped and 9 topped, as was the identical water and room and reservoirs etc.... Since there were only 4 or 5 plants under each 1000w lamp, I think that MY amount of light penetration helped beef up the nugs on the bottom substantially -- there was no popcorn on any plant.

The next time around I think 9 plants per light is the magic number too -- Under six just lets too much light leak to the floor, and with a longer veg time still the plants would be too tall to really take advantage of the dense nug production. I think a veg time of 16-18 days is ideal for the right height plant for 9 under each 1kW lamp. The next harvests will reflect the more dialed in state too, this was the first grow attempt with this room.

I dont use growth regulation, not really sure what that means, just Humboldt Nutrients and H2O2/FloraKleen. The only plant height maintenance I did was tie the one NYPD down that was growing a mile a week. At harvest, that particular plant was about 28" taller than any other in there. It was truly a monster.

researchkitty said:

Rusty: My neck hurts from taking the pics still! The topping increased weight is unknown exactly why they were substantially heavier, but I suspect its because its really four plants at that point. The colas were still quite large, and didnt seem to get smaller except on the one plant that had six tops by mistake. That plants colas were much smaller. It seems four is the winning amount. The light penetration was identical for each 9 untopped and 9 topped, as was the identical water and room and reservoirs etc.... Since there were only 4 or 5 plants under each 1000w lamp, I think that MY amount of light penetration helped beef up the nugs on the bottom substantially -- there was no popcorn on any plant.

The next time around I think 9 plants per light is the magic number too -- Under six just lets too much light leak to the floor, and with a longer veg time still the plants would be too tall to really take advantage of the dense nug production. I think a veg time of 16-18 days is ideal for the right height plant for 9 under each 1kW lamp. The next harvests will reflect the more dialed in state too, this was the first grow attempt with this room.

I dont use growth regulation, not really sure what that means, just Humboldt Nutrients and H2O2/FloraKleen. The only plant height maintenance I did was tie the one NYPD down that was growing a mile a week. At harvest, that particular plant was about 28" taller than any other in there. It was truly a monster.

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Sorry, Plant growth regulators I meant to say. The main one I use is called "Bonza Bud". It helps by blocking gibberillic acid to reduce internodal length and lessen the chance of producing males if growing from un-feminised seed stock. It creates the same effect as "tipping" a plant without removing the top growth, which would eventually produce much more branches and flower/fruit points. It encourages more side growth and these branches will produce extra fruiting/flowering points per plant also increasing yeilds and bud density.