Kosher Tangie & Strawberry Cookies, new to organics journal

DonTesla

DonTesla

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Bubba's girl said:
Thank you for dropping your wisdom bombs on my thread @DonTesla, you can be sure much of this will influence my future grows.

From your "Things to note" comments, I have to admit I'm batting 0 for 3, but I am striving for 3/3...what do you consider a "small" pot? I guess you're telling me 10's are too small. I'm planning to upsize to 15's next round, still too small?

Thanks again for your contributions, both to my thread and this forum/site.
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Well the good news is that going 3 for 3 isn't that hard! You just got to use 15 gal pots like you plan to.. 20 or 25 gal can be even better, especially if wheeled.. but 15 is a huge improvement on 5, 7 or 10.

As for castings, that can be started with the price it would cost to buy a couple bags, but you can eventually keep cropping more and more castings from that original investment..

and as for growing fungus, thats not too hard either!! just takes a little sprinkling of this or that, once you're mixed up .. if you time it right after your soil mixing, fungus can grow while your meals and minerals ferment and mellow in, and you can start your mix off with trillions of fresh microbes and tonnes of fungus too..

Then for babies, I just cut this soil down 50%.. or make seedling soil free of P.. put some aside.. then add P and flowering nutes to make "older plant" soil..

And thanks for the follow and the kind words, by the way! Happy to contribute everywhere I can!
 
Jay7t5

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Bubba's girl said:
Oh btw, I think my Kosher Tangies look better in the pics than in person. The colas seem a lot skinnier in real life imho. Perhaps I should do something about my low RH. It's around 33, I've never bothered trying to get it up, for fear of mold issues (and laziness too). Need to read up on VPD. Would proper humidity levels have an impact on the plants ability to uptake the nutrients in the soil?

Also, I have not checked the PH once during this grow. Somebody suggested checking the ph of the water runoff, compare to the PH of the water going in, and the soil's PH should be right about in the middle? Does this sound right? Thanks.
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I wouldn't say humidity would have a detrimental effect in nutes uptake,have you possibly over loaded with the P guano,that will Cause lock out of other nutes, I only add a couple of teaspoon top dressing,and I'm using organics subcools mix in 18 litre pots, I think that's 5-6 us gallon, I have got away with 11 litres too, I Only make small batches due to room and what i did do first time was add too much lime that cause all sorts of problems with deficiency, I didn't use the amounts stated on subcools and my soil is 6.6 6.8 all the time now, Just my experience you
hope you sort it soon
 
Bubba's girl

Bubba's girl

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Thanks @ShLUbY

Hey what do you think of this as a seed starter mix, with a week 'cook' time:

40% Peat
40% Perlite
20% EWC
1/2 cup Gypsum per cf
1/2 cup Oyster Shell flour

Too strong? Maybe cut the Gypsum and OSF down to 1/4 cup each. This would be a for the solo cup stage, just a couple weeks for week old sprouts.
 
FunkeyMunkey

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Yeah that mix will work. 1/4 cup should be plenty. Less is more even though it’s so hard to abide by that one simple rule haha

Strawberry cookie looks amazeballs :leaf:
 
ShLUbY

ShLUbY

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Bubba's girl said:
Thanks @ShLUbY

Hey what do you think of this as a seed starter mix, with a week 'cook' time:

40% Peat
40% Perlite
20% EWC
1/2 cup Gypsum per cf
1/2 cup Oyster Shell flour

Too strong? Maybe cut the Gypsum and OSF down to 1/4 cup each. This would be a for the solo cup stage, just a couple weeks for week old sprouts.
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no, i don't think its too strong... actually, i would throw some kelp and neem in there too and call it good. You could run them all (except the OSF for pH buffering) at 1/4 cup / cuft. and have no deficiency issues. i think they'd be just fine at the normal rates of 1/2c / cuft. as well. i've used a very similar recipe for seedlings before and had no issues at all.

remember, what we use for nutrition in LOS takes time to become bioavailable to the plants, its not all available at once. so people who bottle feed and end up over overferting their seedlings is because everything they put in the solution is readily available, and creates too high of a solute concentration for a small plant, which is no bueno. whereas with living soil, things are fetched as needed, and not everything is readily available at a given moment.

what are you planning on popping?
 
Bubba's girl

Bubba's girl

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Thanks @ShLUbY

I'll go with that recipe then. I just want to be careful because I have badly burnt some seedlings in a soil mix before.

I have some stuff I'm really excited to grow for this round. I have Moontang by Bodhi, I'll be looking for the purest chem91 pheno I can get. Also, I have some sick OGKB crosses by Dungeon Vault Genetics. I have Grandpa's Breath, Foulmouth, and Grand Slam. I have been dying to try some OGKB genetics for awhile now.

Edit: Now that I think about it, I may not even have a week to cook that mix up.

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ShLUbY

ShLUbY

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Bubba's girl said:
Thanks @ShLUbY

I'll go with that recipe then. I just want to be careful because I have badly burnt some seedlings in a soil mix before.

I have some stuff I'm really excited to grow for this round. I have Moontang by Bodhi, I'll be looking for the purest chem91 pheno I can get. Also, I have some sick OGKB crosses by Dungeon Vault Genetics. I have Grandpa's Breath, Foulmouth, and Grand Slam. I have been dying to try some OGKB genetics for awhile now.

Edit: Now that I think about it, I may not even have a week to cook that mix up.

I'm looking to get some stuff from Ocean Grown next, haven't looked at bodhi in a while, and don't think i've ever seen OGKB's selection.

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sweet!

I did that same mix without composting it, also had crab shell in it too, and didn't have any issues. maybe it was luck... who knows! lol
 
Bubba's girl

Bubba's girl

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DonTesla said:
Well the good news is that going 3 for 3 isn't that hard! You just got to use 15 gal pots like you plan to.. 20 or 25 gal can be even better, especially if wheeled.. but 15 is a huge improvement on 5, 7 or 10.

As for castings, that can be started with the price it would cost to buy a couple bags, but you can eventually keep cropping more and more castings from that original investment..

and as for growing fungus, thats not too hard either!! just takes a little sprinkling of this or that, once you're mixed up .. if you time it right after your soil mixing, fungus can grow while your meals and minerals ferment and mellow in, and you can start your mix off with trillions of fresh microbes and tonnes of fungus too..

Then for babies, I just cut this soil down 50%.. or make seedling soil free of P.. put some aside.. then add P and flowering nutes to make "older plant" soil..

And thanks for the follow and the kind words, by the way! Happy to contribute everywhere I can!
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So sorry for the late response.

I will be doing 15 gals on the next round, 4 plants per 4 x 4 area.

I do plan to start vermicomposting, I've just been too busy, hopefully sometime in March I will be started. I will put worms in the 15 gals also.

And as for the fungas, I wonder what the "this or that" would be? I'm guessing Mykos is one of them? I'll do some research to see what the others are.

Cheers and thanks again for the help!
 
Bubba's girl

Bubba's girl

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IMG_4629.JPG I settled on this seedling recipe, zero composting time, transplanted a few days ago. The leaf crinkle is due to OGKB genetics.

40% Peat
40% Perlite
20% EWC
1/2 cup oyster shell flour per cf
1/4 cup gypsum per cf
1/4 cup kelp per cf
 
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DonTesla

DonTesla

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Bubba's girl said:
So sorry for the late response.

I will be doing 15 gals on the next round, 4 plants per 4 x 4 area.

I do plan to start vermicomposting, I've just been too busy, hopefully sometime in March I will be started. I will put worms in the 15 gals also.

And as for the fungas, I wonder what the "this or that" would be? I'm guessing Mykos is one of them? I'll do some research to see what the others are.

Cheers and thanks again for the help!
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No worries and my pleasure..

As for fungus I just meant fungal foods like red wheat bran, barley, floured organic oats, grokashi, frass, woodchips/ sawdust compost, etc. even kelp and neem, rice, leaf mould, there's a lot of choices!

Speaking of which I agree about the seedling recipe.. I do try omit the P for the most part, but neem and kelp are great for the babies.
 
Bubba's girl

Bubba's girl

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Pulled the plug on these after 71 days. Kosher Tangies looked like they could have used another week still. 48 hours darkness then chopped. Whole plants hung to dry.

Pics later.
 
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