bigmanc
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What did he do? There's more reports of after march, just wanting to know if anyone has it for up to june19(announcement date)
Lawyer takes on Feds over new pot rules
- Thread starter Beaches Compassion
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R.Raider
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Oh, okay I see what you mean now.
mojoganjaman
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my licence has an expiry date of May 27/14
Beaches Compassion
Active Member
Call HC to ask them when you were processed in the system. If it was Before June 19th you should be able to push for a one year grow.
They time stamp everything, they just don't expect many people to call and ask. Apparently they held over 1000's of them just waiting until after June 19th - but they have them time stamped in the system from before June 19th you just have to call.
Brian Savage
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The Quebec College of Physicians has formally opted out of the MMPR.
buckets
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That's pretty major in my opinion. Justin Trudeau will really have to fix things to some degree if he wins. But he'll be talked to by his silent powerful buddies and he won't do the job right. I prey we get somewhere with all of our court challenges. The leaders know not what they're doing to us.
Brian Savage
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The court challenge date is set for the 30th of September buckets. 
We WILL win that case, its not even remotely close. Clear violations of the Charter AND the 2000 Supreme Court ruling.
My guess is that these companies will be allowed to grow and sell to the patients of Canada (which Im glad for), however, the right to grow for themselves will be preserved.
We WILL win that case, its not even remotely close. Clear violations of the Charter AND the 2000 Supreme Court ruling.
My guess is that these companies will be allowed to grow and sell to the patients of Canada (which Im glad for), however, the right to grow for themselves will be preserved.
buckets
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That will be so awesome if we win brian. I will so bow my head with respect to those who got off their asses and said no we won't be treated this way! And they went and filed law suits/court challenges. Just awesome. Personal growing would be awesome. I feel like getting drunk and waving the Canadian flag while I smoke a fatty!
user hidden
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they also rejected the MMAR
Brian Savage
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They signed MMAR paperwork, they will not sign MMPR. New Brunswick and Ontario colleges are also rumored to be opting out. If you think the Charter of Rights and Freedoms will be ignored by the supreme court you are mistaken.
Adamjasar
Member
Idk i kind of like the new rules, compared to how they were before,reason being: pretty much any "average joe" can go pickup a medical marijuana prescription, and if you had a medical marijuana prescrption it wasnt to hard to be able to apply for another license which allowed you to grow x amount of plants, so if your ok'd to grow x amount of plants the temptation to grow more and make potential profit ( general term ) is hard to resist, so in theory it floods the market with "illegal" marijuana deflating the prices and making it alot more accesable to people who do not necessarily "need" it, which gets alot of people winding up in prison or situations they don't want to be in.
The new MMRP makes it a Job / Business, which eliminates the negative aspects of allowing patients to grow, while allowing people to capitalize on the pharmacutical industry at the moment, which in theory helps to decriminialze marijuana. While before it, it was a positive that looks negative because it can function negativly. So unless some group of people tend to make a better presentation than what the MMRP gives, than I highly doubt it being argued in Supreme or even in Parilment because as it stands now its Pretty Damn Solid espcially consdering this "economy" 30k labor jobs lost in july? ya i dont think this lawyers got any chance appealing.
The new MMRP makes it a Job / Business, which eliminates the negative aspects of allowing patients to grow, while allowing people to capitalize on the pharmacutical industry at the moment, which in theory helps to decriminialze marijuana. While before it, it was a positive that looks negative because it can function negativly. So unless some group of people tend to make a better presentation than what the MMRP gives, than I highly doubt it being argued in Supreme or even in Parilment because as it stands now its Pretty Damn Solid espcially consdering this "economy" 30k labor jobs lost in july? ya i dont think this lawyers got any chance appealing.
Brian Savage
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Its unconstitutional....I'm not sure if you understand what that means.
It was argued in the Supreme Court in 2000. It IS being challenged and the court date is set for September 30th.
When the MMPR is found to be in violation of 3 different sections of the charter of rights and freedoms and in violation of the 2000 Supreme Court ruling (that states a person who has medicinal need for cannabis MUST have reasonable access to cannabis), then the government will more than likely be given time to change it and make it constitutional.
It was argued in the Supreme Court in 2000. It IS being challenged and the court date is set for September 30th.
When the MMPR is found to be in violation of 3 different sections of the charter of rights and freedoms and in violation of the 2000 Supreme Court ruling (that states a person who has medicinal need for cannabis MUST have reasonable access to cannabis), then the government will more than likely be given time to change it and make it constitutional.
Why not just enforce the current laws if anything?
I have followed every stupid rule to date. Train H.C. to know and follow the rules and support those who seek their advise.
Every time I call someone says something different so I then have to do my homework.
That said perhaps their issues lay with their own lack of training. Not mine.
I have followed every stupid rule to date. Train H.C. to know and follow the rules and support those who seek their advise.
Every time I call someone says something different so I then have to do my homework.
That said perhaps their issues lay with their own lack of training. Not mine.
Sir.Ganga
New Member
Sadly you believing their B.S. First off EVERYONE should be ingesting this drug, there are cannabinoid receptors on every organ in your body, there's got to be a reason for this. Your method of thinking is just a little skewed though, you are worrying about the criminal's and what they do when you should be concerned about the patients that are law biding citizens and will DIE without it. The way you talk it is more important to stop the flow of illegal product than to make certain that ALL Canadians are treated equally and are able to treat their conditions. As for jobs...well that's a joke, 51 grow ops will not generate very many jobs. I agree that there are people that profit but that should not come into play with us legal growers that need this to live.
Sounds like you like the idea of government drug dealing, and mark-up.
Adamjasar
Member
Well on those 51 grow ops they will produce alot of profit, its not like that profit money just gets sent into a bank account, especially since you think that only major corporations will be the producers, so that being said shareholders in the companies expect more growth out of them, not just in the marijuana field but others as well, more growth = more jobs not just jobs within the company but jobs outside it as well, those people can afford to take taxi's, eat out at restaurants, buy more merchandise, etc etc etc, the tax $$ add up which create more goverment influenced job growth, don't be so ignorant and negative. I've seen lots of bad things happen to people with marijuana being "illegal" and its a lot better that its going to be recognized more as a medicinal product rather than a recreational narcotic.
How many people rely on painkillers that would be considered illegal if you aren't medically prescribed them, painkillers also can't be grown in a pot of soil and adding water to it, having the goverment regulate medication is better; because hopefully in the future it will end up becomming covered by the Healthcare System, but if people continue to protest movements like these away and fight them, it wont be as accessable to people who probably need it alot.
Sry if I sounded anybit rude I was just speaking my mind.
Sir.Ganga
New Member
First off no I don't think your rude and everyone has an opinion. So people's needs and GREED are more important than Canadians health? Taking taxi's and eating out are two of the things we Canadians do that we shouldn't! How old are you? Your statement make you sound very young because wanting the government to control anything doesn't come out of the mouth of any seasoned or older Canadian, they have learnt from previous ventures that the government has gone in on and screwed everyone...AIR CANADA is just one. You should do a little more research on the subject. It should not be government controlled, it should be free access for everyone, anything less is criminal. Tomatoes are good for you, cannabis is better, you find out why we can grow one but not the other and you will find the reason the government needs to keep their nose out of it.
MikeHay
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I think cannabis should be available to everyone if they want the medication for even minor conditions. There is basically no toxicity in marijuana. Both THC and CBD have health benefits - often different benefits for different conditions, and sometimes complimentary. Even as a preventative medication for high blood pressure (heart disease), high blood sugars (obesity and diabetes), and minor aches and pains (replacing aspirin and Tylenol). Why is it a medication of last resort? Why do we have to suffer through tons of toxic medications and all their side effects before we are able to get medical marijuana prescriptions? The number and severity of side effects are so minor that they don't even compare to alcohol and cigarettes. And those are used recreationally. Once a person has a prescription for medical marijuana, they should have reasonable access. Assuming a person needs to make creams and salves for topical treatment, or they are juicing the plant, etc., they need a larger prescription than just smoking dried cannabis. How can Health Canada force everyone to just smoke it? And how can they justify $8 - $10 per gram in price? If a person needs just 5 grams per day, this would work out to $14,600 per year to buy their cannabis from the licensed grower. I don't think the courts will see this as reasonable access - considering the average income in Canada is just over $40,000 per year. And on another note - if growing indoors is dangerous (fire hazard) then you have to ban all types of grows - roses, tulips, vegetables, etc. The Canadian government can't ban what people do in their own home - assuming it isn't illegal - even if it is more hazardous. That is a bullshit argument. And growers who produce their own products in smaller quantities usually take some precautions to minimize hazards. All in all, I think the new MMPR will be shot down. It only makes sense. Looking forward to the Sept 30 court date....
Brian Savage
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Very well said Mike Hay.