Leaf problems! Help

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phil k

phil k

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Olive Drab Green said:
Stop feeding every day, try every other watering or every week orvtwo. Is that the water going in or the soil pH? Because check what it is coming out and in soil, too.
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see... the build up is the issue no way in hell if he's feeding daily that theres cal mag deficiency and requires cal mag supplementing..theres no way he's deficient on anything..

stemo where the heck did you get that you not only water daily but to feed daily as well??? definitely get off that you only need to feed one good feed once a week then you should be watering.. larger plants may require 2x a week food but generally once a week full strength is enough.
 
phil k

phil k

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the reason people do get deficiency is cause they are following proper feeding and not over doing and at some points there may be a extra need with the grows for secondary supplementing but generally your chemical feeds when properly followed provide everything your plant needs without excess supplementation. once a week feed once a week water should be your schedule IMOP..
 
Diabolical666

Diabolical666

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phil k said:
well the top area isn't alway the most acidic generally in the lower half of the pot is where the soil becomes more acidic because thats where the moisture generally stays creating the build up.. i mean maybe the top will react though but the real buildups are occurring lower.
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so you are saying the bottom of the plants roots control the bottom of the plant?:shock:
 
phil k

phil k

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Diabolical666 said:
so you are saying the bottom of the plants roots control the bottom of the plant?:shock:
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what? i said the build up is going to be stronger in the lower part of your pot where the moisture generally stays .. where did you even get what you just said
 
phil k

phil k

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everything falls down and sinks as your watering.. therefore the build of of chemicals will be stronger in the lower parts on the media where the water/chemicals sit and soak without properly drying..
 
phil k

phil k

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and I'm not saying for certain in all cases the bottoms going to be more acidic than the top but in his case where the base is clearly not drying nor being flushed he's going to have more build up lower in the pot than higher up where its at the very least drying
 
phil k

phil k

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either way its acidic issues/overwatering/over feeding which all revolve around each other.. the media needs to really dry initially then be flushed.. wait three days flush again wait three days (id personally flush again) but you can go back to 1/4-1/2 strength then get on a proper schedule
 
phil k

phil k

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and on top of that depending on the media he's using it really could be more than 3 days promix sometimes takes 4-5 days to dry when really moist .. where as coco loco will be bone dry in 3 days generally
 
Olive Drab Green

Olive Drab Green

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I use organic. Not that organics can't burn, but it's safer and the uptake is different. The substrate ecosystem synergic bacteria eats the organic matter and shits out readily available plant nutes.
 
phil k

phil k

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Olive Drab Green said:
I use organic. Not that organics can't burn, but it's safer and the uptake is different. The substrate ecosystem synergic bacteria eats the organic matter and shits out readily available plant nutes.
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yeah when done properly nothing better than organics done right.. you couldn't pay me to get back to nutrients..
 
phil k

phil k

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i mean real organics .. not like general organics .. not that theres anything wrong with them but if your going organic do it amendment wise when done right theres nothing better...
 
Olive Drab Green

Olive Drab Green

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phil k said:
i mean real organics .. not like general organics .. not that theres anything wrong with them but if your going organic do it amendment wise when done right theres nothing better...
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Amendments and occasional top dress. The only nonorganic I use is IBA/Bontone for rooting clones, because it's proven.
 
slyone

slyone

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Well all I have to say let's hope he is now armed with enough info to make it through to his next grow.... And well on the way to sorting this one.... Happy growing fella
 
Lemon king

Lemon king

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Well op.....I have my fair share of grows under my belt and I too am having the same issue.....

Sensi a +b is also my base the only other things I add is boosters and silicon. ..

I have now encountered this problems after switching from sensi grow to sensi bloom....

Hmmmm I wonder if it's that....

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Stemo

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Thank you for your thoughts, just so you know my light schedule was 24/7 now on 18/6, my ph is 6-6.5 , O am in soil with 30% perlite. Thanks again. Oh I bottom feed about 2-250 ml per day with a and B sensi. I really appreciate your thoughts and yes I have been a fool with the feed and water I think. I started a fresh water last night and will leave it for a few days. I really am new to this!! I've read so many opinions I think I've taken on bits of everything! It's interesting that the guy in one of the posts above is to using sensi Bloom a and B and has the same issue. I have also noticed a salt residue in the bottom of my tray!!! Is this normal???
 
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Olive Drab Green

Olive Drab Green

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Lemon king said:
Well op.....I have my fair share of grows under my belt and I too am having the same issue.....

Sensi a +b is also my base the only other things I add is boosters and silicon. ..

I have now encountered this problems after switching from sensi grow to sensi bloom....

Hmmmm I wonder if it's that....

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That is a phosphorus deficiency, I believe. See the angry red veins?
 
Olive Drab Green

Olive Drab Green

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You are either not using a lot of bloom shit, or your soil moisture or pH is fucked or something that's locking your nutes out, if you're adding bloom nutes and still having a phosphorus deficiency.
 
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Lemon king

Lemon king

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Olive Drab Green said:
You are either not using a lot of bloom shit, or your soil moisture or pH is fucked or something that's locking your nutes out, if you're adding bloom nutes and still having a phosphorus deficiency.
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This is what I thought at first too....however ph is spot on (trimeter constant monitoring..calibrated before each noted reading)....

Silicon Sensi bloom...budblood and boost
That's it.....ec 1.8.....ph 5.7 - 6.3

Eating and drinking as normal....

I thought p deff due to cold night Temps. ... ram air controller is clocking 25 degree daytime 17 degs night time.....

Wtf.....
 
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