LED grows and foxtailing buds.. common trait in all LED grows?

Pparker88

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I wouldn't even try outdoors. I worry about bugs and the weather beating on the plant.
I started indoor, and I'm just going to try to make it better as I go along.
my last grow(which as also my first) was out doors. i used Pure Crop 1 to deal with pests and it worked well. I saw the occasional pest, but none ever became an infestation. I was also very proactive as well, inspecting plants twice a day. Only issue i ran into was bud worms...pure crop 1 doesnt work on them.

anyway...my point was i grew some nice dense bud outdoors. i just made sure to feed them what they needed when they needed
 

radiant Rudy

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hey why not just trim off the foxtail as it's getting started? I have 1 of 3 w a bit of foxtailing I wanted to see if there is any benefit or disadvantage to just snipping it off. I'll post up pics.
Following up on this earlier post; reporting that in the case of this plant removing fox tails on the leading tip of the bud resulted in more foxtailing observed on calyxes below.12-27-fox-tails.jpg

Same room, and same substrate and nutrition. These buds nicely formed.

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Beehive

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The last cat tails I had was from a crappy strain of weed. What the hell was it?...

I can't remember. Some $25 regular seed pack. They would repeatedly cat tail. Different plants, different grows.

Smoke was OK. I mean, you can't tell it cat tailed after its ground up and stuck in a bowl. Its not like it gives a cat tail after taste.
 

Geedoubya

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No. Very few led rigs have any UV at all. I run a uv tube, as i said earlier, i have zero purple petioles. Purple petioles and stems is correlated with P deficiency and or cold temps. Im not making shit up. This is an accepted agronomic diagnostic fact.

Be your own boss, google "phosphorous deficiecy symptoms" the purpling is common in many crops. Dont guess and stuff random minerals (Ca, Mg, S etc) into your substrate without good evidence* of a deficit, i.e*. Soil Test, plant sap analysis
Providing his PH is in line I totally agree Rudy.
 

ҖҗlegilizeitҗҖ

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I agree, running LEDs and had a grow foxtail pretty bad, but my lights were 10 or 12" from the canopy + the those were cobs that put out some heat. Maybe a combination of light and heat intensity. Next grow I raised up them a lot higher, add active cooling and didn't have the same issue. I've also run different LEDs that run cooler and instead of foxtailing I had major bleaching when too close.
I've read the science that co2 enrichment helps that. Bleaching comes from the plant not being able to process the amount of ppfd its being hit with, and with co2 that amount it can take is substantially increased.
Also makes them more heat resistant. The combination of LED + CO2 and even Hydro is killer lol
 

Southernontariogrower

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Lol I just found his journal and he does have some nice led buds. I'm nervous to go all led for the same reason so figured I'd drop 150 to try it out myself since none of my friends will lol. Greengenes on youtube doesn't get too foxtaily buds either so going to try to work out any kinks before upgrading. I'm sure there's a sweet spot between heat, light intensity, ect
Greengenes garden, that guy has his grows dialed in real well. He does good on 4x8, liked his cob setup, 1500w for 4x8 is high light concentration.
 

Southernontariogrower

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I grow outdoor in summer, and get hard nugs, some strains can't make it where I live and I'm as far south as Canada gets. Pm is biggest problem outdoors here, before the hemp fields came, looking to find impotent female so they don't get tainted by shitty pollen. Leds are treating me fine at 6 weeks into flower, 3 out of 4 are hot, 4th was unknown seed and not much resin at all am thinking cbd strain? Can't forget the thrips come June, only spray i did last year and caught them fast. Other than thieves i do good outdoors.
 
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bk78

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Greengenes garden, that guy has his grows dialed in real well. He does good on 4x8, liked his cob setup, 1500w for 4x8 is high light concentration.
Out of his last 4 crops he made 1 until harvest due to mold,pests etc

hardly “dialled in” if you only harvest 1 crop a year out of 4.
 

oill

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I've noticed that in almost all of the LED grows I've seen on Instagram and here on the board heavy foxtailing buds. Is this just a common trait with the spectrum and light that we use in comparison to HPS?
I have certainly had some foxtailing... butni am mixing quite a few strains... can't get them all perfect in the same setup. Some are Hest and some are potentially too much light or over feeding
 
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