HomeGrownHairy
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I see lots of cfl's. Looks like a cfl grow with LED's. Not a pure LED grow, which I thought this thread was about. How would you know how much the led's are contributing. My mistake.
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fallinghigh
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WELL IF YOU READ THIS WHOLE FUCKING THREAD AND THINK THAT YOU CAN USE THE LEDS FOR A FULL GROW THAN I THINK YOU MISSED THE BOAT.
At this point, the conversation is what benefit if any is there in using led at all, whatsoever.
LEDS ARE NOT A 400 WATT OR 600WATT MH OR HPS REPLACEMENT.
Crimble
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"At this point, the conversation is what benefit if any is there in using led at all, whatsoever.
LEDS ARE NOT A 400 WATT OR 600WATT MH OR HPS REPLACEMENT. "
fallinghigh you are wrong on that.
I can say 100% that you can veg 12 new clones in 3 gal. bags with a 90w, all blue VEG LED from GROWL, I have veged a full cycle and I am onto the next as we speak and I WILL NEVER WASTE MONEY AND POWER WITH A MH EVER AGAIN!
As for Flower, I am 4 weeks away from completion of my 1st round of Hash Plant with two 90w and one 120w five-band flower models and all I can say is that I have had ZERO heat issues, my electric bill was $56 this month, my lights hang so low I never have space issues, and if I have a full month to let these buds grow still, I am looking at a nice return after all is said and done.
I know the argument is... "LED's grow stringy, non-dense, little buds". I would agree that LED's, when applied improperly, will yield bad results, just as hanging your HID too low will result in burning, hanging your LED's the same hight as your used to with HID's, seems to be a major problem with the reputation of LED grow lights. I have stated this before, my major issue with LED grow light companies are the clams on the sites about "this is equal to that" and "this light covers the much area", I can say 100% for certain that NO LED light has a large coverage area, the size of the unit seems to be the size of the coverage area (if ya want tight, dense buds). So other than price and coverage area, I LOVE MY LED'S and would recommend them to people, with a warning, just as I would recommend a Sony Vaio to someone wanting to get a Lap Top PC, but I would tell them that you have to be careful with Windows and I would warn LED users about reflection and coverage area, it has a way to go but LED WILL REPLACE HID Lights sooner than later.
LEDS ARE NOT A 400 WATT OR 600WATT MH OR HPS REPLACEMENT. "
fallinghigh you are wrong on that.
I can say 100% that you can veg 12 new clones in 3 gal. bags with a 90w, all blue VEG LED from GROWL, I have veged a full cycle and I am onto the next as we speak and I WILL NEVER WASTE MONEY AND POWER WITH A MH EVER AGAIN!
As for Flower, I am 4 weeks away from completion of my 1st round of Hash Plant with two 90w and one 120w five-band flower models and all I can say is that I have had ZERO heat issues, my electric bill was $56 this month, my lights hang so low I never have space issues, and if I have a full month to let these buds grow still, I am looking at a nice return after all is said and done.
I know the argument is... "LED's grow stringy, non-dense, little buds". I would agree that LED's, when applied improperly, will yield bad results, just as hanging your HID too low will result in burning, hanging your LED's the same hight as your used to with HID's, seems to be a major problem with the reputation of LED grow lights. I have stated this before, my major issue with LED grow light companies are the clams on the sites about "this is equal to that" and "this light covers the much area", I can say 100% for certain that NO LED light has a large coverage area, the size of the unit seems to be the size of the coverage area (if ya want tight, dense buds). So other than price and coverage area, I LOVE MY LED'S and would recommend them to people, with a warning, just as I would recommend a Sony Vaio to someone wanting to get a Lap Top PC, but I would tell them that you have to be careful with Windows and I would warn LED users about reflection and coverage area, it has a way to go but LED WILL REPLACE HID Lights sooner than later.
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HomeGrownHairy
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How can you tell how much the led's are contributing since the grow uses both. That's my point so dont fucking yellWELL IF YOU READ THIS WHOLE FUCKING THREAD AND THINK THAT YOU CAN USE THE LEDS FOR A FULL GROW THAN I THINK YOU MISSED THE BOAT.
At this point, the conversation is what benefit if any is there in using led at all, whatsoever.
LEDS ARE NOT A 400 WATT OR 600WATT MH OR HPS REPLACEMENT.
doitinthewoods
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LED grow lights haven't been around for that long, so i don't think anyone is very "seasoned" but maybe I'm wrong. I haven't heard anything good about them to be honest with you, but I'm always open to new ideas. I would personally have to see them in action to believe.
wildcatsweetart
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I thought of making some soft of led grid for in between the pots in my aero setup to grab the lower branches...... somewhat like the idea of hanging cfls low in the room. any thoughts?
fallinghigh
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cause I know what the floros can do by themselves. MH is proven better than floro, but the combo is better than MH for bushiness. led in my opinion is not close to a stand alone grow light, but just that little bit of added spectrum, a full balance of baking light field, and it works good.
fallowing pics are from this thread NOTICE THE BUDS UNDER LED SEEM HIARY AND UNDERDEVELOPED BUT VEGGING KICKS ASS
MH VS LED COMBO
MH
LED
AS CLOSE TO A SUMMARY OF THE GOOD STUFF ON THIS THREAD.
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Crimble
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Wow, seems like this thread got lost in the shuffle.
So, to update my results;
We harvested on Winter Solstice (hippies), during my first grow I was using LED's for the 1st time, a new room for the 1st time, a new strain, and new food, so I was really dealing with allot of things to figure out. We keep our room temps WAY too low and almost no humidity, we also cut back way too much undergrowth just because of what we were used to doing in the past. This time we are keeping the room much warmer, allot more humidity, also reflection underneath your canopy is key, we use allot reflection and are seeing better results this round. We noticed it didn't take allot of time to take it all down so we knew from the start that the amount would be less than hoped for, after we trimmed and cured we were left with allot for us to smoke but not very much more
The quality was amazing, Dank, heddie, all the buzz words ya hear on tour in the lot
The quantity left allot to be desired, we didn't get the amount that we wanted, but granted I was only using 3 panels and I wanted to have 6 @ 120 watt models but we could only get 3 at the time, so now during our second round, we have 6 @120 watt panels overhead and 1@ 50 watt panel at each end lighting up the under canopy, using so much more heat and humidity and cutting nothing back, we are excited to see what happens at the end of round two.
So, to update my results;
We harvested on Winter Solstice (hippies), during my first grow I was using LED's for the 1st time, a new room for the 1st time, a new strain, and new food, so I was really dealing with allot of things to figure out. We keep our room temps WAY too low and almost no humidity, we also cut back way too much undergrowth just because of what we were used to doing in the past. This time we are keeping the room much warmer, allot more humidity, also reflection underneath your canopy is key, we use allot reflection and are seeing better results this round. We noticed it didn't take allot of time to take it all down so we knew from the start that the amount would be less than hoped for, after we trimmed and cured we were left with allot for us to smoke but not very much more
The quality was amazing, Dank, heddie, all the buzz words ya hear on tour in the lot
The quantity left allot to be desired, we didn't get the amount that we wanted, but granted I was only using 3 panels and I wanted to have 6 @ 120 watt models but we could only get 3 at the time, so now during our second round, we have 6 @120 watt panels overhead and 1@ 50 watt panel at each end lighting up the under canopy, using so much more heat and humidity and cutting nothing back, we are excited to see what happens at the end of round two.
prof. chaos
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i know im way late on this one but it need to be set straight from someone who works with electric. leds themselves do not get hot. the heat is produced by the electric current running through the fixture. remember, most times your converting ac to dc and that conversion alone creates heat. still not as much heat as anything else. my cfls used to get hotter then my led. with that said, growing two plants at a time in s scrog with a 90w ufo, 4 15w panals surrounding, and two red super bloom bulbs leds for flower does my small box fine. happy growing
deepsmoke
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my dispensary has a small room set up with a mixed spectrum in for "special bud". it contains a 120w grow light 150 hps 90w ufo triband and 90w blue ufo the undergrowth is amazing. the blue is placed on the bottom of the room shining up with 120 going across and the others placed above. i think there is good growth and buds are nice size kinda fluffy but good. i like led's i think there is room for improvement but they work good just need some other lighting to mix it in right.
repvip
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So I've been using LED for the first 2 weeks in flower, then rotate under HID lighting.
However, I'm going to let this one finish under the LED. The LED panel is a 350watter. I tend to think LEDs are great for vegging, and questionable for producing nice buds. But, I never tried.. so here's hoping. It's been three weeks and just removed the undergrowth.
edit oops you probably would want to know those pics are 23 days flowering from 1 week veg
However, I'm going to let this one finish under the LED. The LED panel is a 350watter. I tend to think LEDs are great for vegging, and questionable for producing nice buds. But, I never tried.. so here's hoping. It's been three weeks and just removed the undergrowth.
edit oops you probably would want to know those pics are 23 days flowering from 1 week veg
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Mike Huntstinks
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If any of you are interested I just started a LED grow here https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/302271-160w-led-hybrid-grow.html
asa77sol
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Im going there, but is there anybody here who use homemade LEDlamp?
repvip
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This probably isn't the best thread to ask this, but does anyone have an idea what these light color leaves mean?
I keep the LED within an inch using a light mover, and I notice the upper leaves are light green--lighter green the closer they are to the LEDs. The leaves farther down, >4-6" are normal green and look fine.
If I keep the LED 4-6" from the tops, then there is less light green, and more normal looking green color.
So... what do you think? Am I burning or damaging my plants by keeping the LEDs too close?
It's not a nute issue. The same strain under MH are a beautiful shade of green. Other than being lighter color, they look healthy.. so I don't know what to make of it.
edit: to compare with MH see that pic. Also to further prove my point, a couple more pics of plants under a UFO LED, of same composition (LED scpectrum) just smaller package--you can see it is 4-6" above, and these plants stay that nice green color. Really makes me wonder if you can get too close... maybe the sweet spot isn't where I thought, again! haha
I keep the LED within an inch using a light mover, and I notice the upper leaves are light green--lighter green the closer they are to the LEDs. The leaves farther down, >4-6" are normal green and look fine.
If I keep the LED 4-6" from the tops, then there is less light green, and more normal looking green color.
So... what do you think? Am I burning or damaging my plants by keeping the LEDs too close?
It's not a nute issue. The same strain under MH are a beautiful shade of green. Other than being lighter color, they look healthy.. so I don't know what to make of it.
edit: to compare with MH see that pic. Also to further prove my point, a couple more pics of plants under a UFO LED, of same composition (LED scpectrum) just smaller package--you can see it is 4-6" above, and these plants stay that nice green color. Really makes me wonder if you can get too close... maybe the sweet spot isn't where I thought, again! haha
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calloftheancient
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What is a good LED ratio? I've seen RBO(7:1:1) What is the 5 spectrum ratio? I'm looking into a custom made one. Any info will be appreciated!