HiloReign
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Damn your light has frost too?! I must be doing something wrong....
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Indoor393
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I just switched to two 300w×100×3w panels in a 36"×36"×78" tent with 6" blower and carbon air filter.I loved them
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HerbalBudman
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Hi, total newbie here but am using 2x marshydro switchable 480w leds.
I have only just started my grow, but am keen to see what happens. I have spoke to the company who manufacture them, lgledsolutions, and they seem to know what they are talking about when it comes to spectrums.
I have chosen led for 2 reasons,
1. The electric saving, think they draw either 220w or 280w but put out 480w
2. The heat, know hps can get extremely hot, and I want lots of light, but don't want be found by those pesky flying piggys cus my house is showing up like a Christmas tree on fire!
I'll keep you posted, am doing northern light auto from royal queen seeds.
I have only just started my grow, but am keen to see what happens. I have spoke to the company who manufacture them, lgledsolutions, and they seem to know what they are talking about when it comes to spectrums.
I have chosen led for 2 reasons,
1. The electric saving, think they draw either 220w or 280w but put out 480w
2. The heat, know hps can get extremely hot, and I want lots of light, but don't want be found by those pesky flying piggys cus my house is showing up like a Christmas tree on fire!
I'll keep you posted, am doing northern light auto from royal queen seeds.
medicinehuman
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It looks like a nutrient deficency or lock out maybe. How's your PH. I may be wrong but I think it is too much or too little nutes. What soil are you using and what nutrients are you using?
MonsterDrank
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Optic Lighting 500 Watt Bridge Lux Vero 29 LED Grow Light running along side a Sun System Magnum XXXL Reflector that is housing a Ushio 1000 Watt "SUPER" HPS Lamp.. because.. "Let there be light."
BM9AGS
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You have a light that uses 220-280w but puts out 480w. Hold on to it and don't tell anyone because black helicopters will land and men in suits will take it.
Ok so bs aside
Your light uses epileds which are similar Efficiency to HID lighting. So you're lied to and believe it. You'd be
Much better off buying CMH lighting than those.
But for what you paid for those paperweights you really got shafted.
So Quick math
Say your lights use 250w. They're similar efficiency to hid so you're likely going to make yeilds of .7 grams per watt
So that's 175 grams of you're lucky per light but I doubt you'll get that.
With quality LEDs Cree
CXB vero 29 and Osram SSL 80 people are near 1.4 grams per watt and these lights have a real warranty.
There's a reason there are so many used Mars panels selling on eBay.
If you're still in your return window I'd highly recommend you return those ASAP but
Just know they'll charge you 20% to deter you from returning them. But 1 year from now if you keep them they will be defective and they won't reply to your warranty requests.
Return them and mark it up as paying for ignorance. There is no governing body controlling cheap led manufactures companies from making completed egregious claims.
However there is this forum which keeps shit companies in check and videotapes smashing LEDs like yours.
BM9AGS
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What is the efficiency of those LEDs ran at a very hard ~125-115watts? Isn't it similar to HID?!?Optic Lighting 500 Watt Bridge Lux Vero 29 LED Grow Light running along side a Sun System Magnum XXXL Reflector that is housing a Ushio 1000 Watt "SUPER" HPS Lamp.. because.. "Let there be light."
You're at 36% efficiency?!?
What is the price of that light? $900?
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MonsterDrank
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It is supposed to be similar to HID in terms of performance according to the manufacturer. They claim it is a replacement to a 1000 Watt Ballast. & Yes it was about $999 on the website.. but I got them to give it to me for $850. This is what the website said...
"Optics 500 Watt Vero LED Grow Light was designed for a 48" x 44" area, with a tested PAR output and penetration that will outperform any 1000 watt HPS lamp. Optics new Vero 29 Series Grow Lights were designed to be the best LED grow lights on the market. The X3 lens was designed to significantly improve light penetration to the deepest parts of the canopy while still being very energy efficient. The lens acts as a high powered magnifying glass, pushing all the light produced through its 90 degree angled lens. The X3 lens provides more light output compared to the same light without the X3 lens. Our Grow Lights were developed specifically to deliver light efficiently through plant tissues at high intensities to ensure optimal penetration/absorption.
Actual Power Consumption: 500 Watt
LED Type: Four(4) BridgeLux Vero 29 (2.0) LED Chips (4000K)
Working Voltage: 85v – 265v
Power Supply: 42V @ 2.9A ( 4 Power Supply's )
Operating Temperature: 90°F -110°F (32.2°C – 43.3°C)
Full Spectrum: 400nm-800nm
Thermal Management: 4 x 80mm dual bearing cooling fans
Product Dimensions: 12.25” x 18.3” x 3"
Product Weight: 17 lbs
Lens Angle: 90 degree
Coverage Area: 48″ x 44″ @ 16” above canopy
(PAR): 1,600.7umol @ 16"
Lux: 144,050 @ 16"..."
It certainly isn't cheap or a low energy using model. LOL I could care less about efficiency or power savings when it comes down to the dollar to be honest. The company.. Optic Lighting.. was bought out by another company just recently.. they are in the middle of some kind of business transition and their servers are temporarily offline. So you can't even look up their product listing at the moment.
I wanted to see how it performed before I picked up a few more. I thought surrounding a Magnum XXL hood using a Ushio Opti Red HPS lamp and giving plants both HPS and 4000K spectrum (what I chose) would really be beneficial to the plants... similar to the benefit of using MH and HPS.. I know MH still has a higher color temperature.. but the Vero 29 at 4000k still looked like a smart choice and covered most of what is needed for complete photosynthesis..
So far the plants are looking great. I am about a week into bloom.
It's definitely an experiment. An expensive one. The overlap areas where the plants are getting both light from the LED and the HPS are the plants that I think are going to be my magazine "Covergirl" plants.. I really think these plants are going to have great resin/trichome production and based on past experience with mixing different types of lights.. I expect them to be the better looking plants.
This particular light while does not run cool.. certainly is not nearly as hot as a 1000 Watt Metal Halide lamp.. so that benefit alone makes it all while worth it to me as I do plan on buying several more of these as long as the first run, this one.. is a success. So far so good tho.
I can tell you tho. with my own eyes.. it does appear to be as bright or brighter than my 1000 Watt HPS lamp.. I wish I had a light meter to test it with. I probably will buy one.
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BM9AGS
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Please keep us posted on end results.It is supposed to be similar to HID in terms of performance according to the manufacturer. They claim it is a replacement to a 1000 Watt Ballast. & Yes it was about $999 on the website.. but I got them to give it to me for $850. This is what the website said...
"Optics 500 Watt Vero LED Grow Light was designed for a 48" x 44" area, with a tested PAR output and penetration that will outperform any 1000 watt HPS lamp. Optics new Vero 29 Series Grow Lights were designed to be the best LED grow lights on the market. The X3 lens was designed to significantly improve light penetration to the deepest parts of the canopy while still being very energy efficient. The lens acts as a high powered magnifying glass, pushing all the light produced through its 90 degree angled lens. The X3 lens provides more light output compared to the same light without the X3 lens. Our Grow Lights were developed specifically to deliver light efficiently through plant tissues at high intensities to ensure optimal penetration/absorption.
Actual Power Consumption: 500 Watt
LED Type: Four(4) BridgeLux Vero 29 (2.0) LED Chips (4000K)
Working Voltage: 85v – 265v
Power Supply: 42V @ 2.9A ( 4 Power Supply's )
Operating Temperature: 90°F -110°F (32.2°C – 43.3°C)
Full Spectrum: 400nm-800nm
Thermal Management: 4 x 80mm dual bearing cooling fans
Product Dimensions: 12.25” x 18.3” x 3"
Product Weight: 17 lbs
Lens Angle: 90 degree
Coverage Area: 48″ x 44″ @ 16” above canopy
(PAR): 1,600.7umol @ 16"
Lux: 144,050 @ 16"..."
It certainly isn't cheap or a low energy using model. LOL I could care less about efficiency or power savings when it comes down to the dollar to be honest. The company.. Optic Lighting.. was bought out by another company just recently.. they are in the middle of some kind of business transition and their servers are temporarily offline. So you can't even look up their product listing at the moment.
I wanted to see how it performed before I picked up a few more. I thought surrounding a Magnum XXL hood using a Ushio Opti Red HPS lamp and giving plants both HPS and 4000K spectrum (what I chose) would really be beneficial to the plants... similar to the benefit of using MH and HPS.. I know MH still has a higher color temperature.. but the Vero 29 at 4000k still looked like a smart choice and covered most of what is needed for complete photosynthesis..
So far the plants are looking great. I am about a week into bloom.
It's definitely an experiment. An expensive one. The overlap areas where the plants are getting both light from the LED and the HPS are the plants that I think are going to be my magazine "Covergirl" plants.. I really think these plants are going to have great resin/trichome production and based on past experience with mixing different types of lights.. I expect them to be the better looking plants.
This particular light while does not run cool.. certainly is not nearly as hot as a 1000 Watt Metal Halide lamp.. so that benefit alone makes it all while worth it to me as I do plan on buying several more of these as long as the first run, this one.. is a success. So far so good tho.
I can tell you tho. with my own eyes.. it does appear to be as bright or brighter than my 1000 Watt HPS lamp.. I wish I had a light meter to test it with. I probably will buy one.
Are you by chance comparing clones under the optic vs 1k light?
MonsterDrank
Well-Known Member
I was originally going to. I thought about it. But the problem I had was the clones was.. the clones I had were vegged under T5s and were weeks further along than my seed plants so the height of those plants were much taller than the seed plants.. so what I ended up doing was moving most of the clones under the 1000 Watt Hood and kept the younger seed plants under the LED.
The problem with having to have the LED light much closer to the plants than a traditional reflector/hood is the whole reason I could not do that type of comparison at this time. Next run I could probably get away with something like that though.
So I am using the LED light now primarily for the Seed plants but a good amount of light does make its way over and reach some of the clones. That overlap area and the plants in that row I imagine are going to turn out great.. I just really gotta watch it and make sure as they grow that the LED doesn't get too close..Keeping a tape measure handy and closeby at all times. =)
BM9AGS
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I'd you have a grow journal I'd like to follow it.
MonsterDrank
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It's not a journal per say.. But I will post pics of the plants I flower out in the thread that's in the link posted in my Sig.
HerbalBudman
Member
You obviously know what your talking about when it comes to leds, I have bought these based on results that I have seen myself, in person. And not as powerful as ones I have, 180watt ufo, I have heard there are a lot of copys of these lights on eBay, I did not buy off eBay, but from lgledsolutions. Same place where other people I know have bought them. Besides, I have looked at other lights like black dog ect but don't have £1000 just to buy a light. I understand you get what you pay for, but as I said, I made the descion based on what I have seen, and seen some amazing hash tops too with these lights. The yield deffo not as big as hps equivalent, but still good enough. Am doing some autos at mo, first grow, be interesting if all goes well.
Thanks for your input though
BM9AGS
Well-Known Member
When you have your first yeild please add it to my grams per watt compilation thread.You obviously know what your talking about when it comes to leds, I have bought these based on results that I have seen myself, in person. And not as powerful as ones I have, 180watt ufo, I have heard there are a lot of copys of these lights on eBay, I did not buy off eBay, but from lgledsolutions. Same place where other people I know have bought them. Besides, I have looked at other lights like black dog ect but don't have £1000 just to buy a light. I understand you get what you pay for, but as I said, I made the descion based on what I have seen, and seen some amazing hash tops too with these lights. The yield deffo not as big as hps equivalent, but still good enough. Am doing some autos at mo, first grow, be interesting if all goes well.
Thanks for your input though
https://www.rollitup.org/t/compilation-of-grams-per-watt-gpw-for-reference.885220/#post-11938727
HerbalBudman
Member
Will do buddy
But bear in mind this is my first grow, May take me a few before I get the best out of them.
But bear in mind this is my first grow, May take me a few before I get the best out of them.
MonsterDrank
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Vero 29 COB 4000K & Ushio Super HPS 2100k
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puffenuff
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Luminus Introduces New COB LEDs for Mid-power Application
Luminus, a global manufacturer of high-performance LEDs, announced today a new family of 3 volt 3030 midpower LEDs offering a wide range of options including 200 lumens per Watt, 95+ CRI, and "candle-warm" 2200K. Luminus has been building a reputation as the market leader in high quality-of-light with their chip-on-board (COB) arrays and midpower products, and this new MP-3030-1100 series contributes further to that effort. There are a total of 18 different CCT/CRI combinations to choose from in this family, including cool white 70 CRI products capable of delivering up to 200 lumens per watt in outdoor applications and AccuWhite™ 95 CRI minimum (97 typical) warm white for luxury retail applications.
link to article:
http://www.ledinside.com/products/2015/10/luminus_introduces_new_cob_leds_for_mid_power_application
Luminus, a global manufacturer of high-performance LEDs, announced today a new family of 3 volt 3030 midpower LEDs offering a wide range of options including 200 lumens per Watt, 95+ CRI, and "candle-warm" 2200K. Luminus has been building a reputation as the market leader in high quality-of-light with their chip-on-board (COB) arrays and midpower products, and this new MP-3030-1100 series contributes further to that effort. There are a total of 18 different CCT/CRI combinations to choose from in this family, including cool white 70 CRI products capable of delivering up to 200 lumens per watt in outdoor applications and AccuWhite™ 95 CRI minimum (97 typical) warm white for luxury retail applications.
link to article:
http://www.ledinside.com/products/2015/10/luminus_introduces_new_cob_leds_for_mid_power_application
FranJan
Well-Known Member
^^^
Medium sized LEDs are a very competitive market so it isn't surprising to see the performance and choices that are appearing. Though I haven't done the math I'll wager you'll find you you'll spend more money trying to match what a COB can do but I bet for those of us who like side lighting or stealth growers they could be an option.
Medium sized LEDs are a very competitive market so it isn't surprising to see the performance and choices that are appearing. Though I haven't done the math I'll wager you'll find you you'll spend more money trying to match what a COB can do but I bet for those of us who like side lighting or stealth growers they could be an option.