LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow
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Psytranceorgy
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is there a way to 'dislike' a post???
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mipainpatient
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Anytime bro, I just object to the concept of "wasted" lumens as all visible light is involved in PUR (photosynthetically-USED-radiation) I know the PAR graphs make the yellow/green look insignificant, but if you have ANY KIND OF CANOPY AT ALL you will want them. see my earlier posts for why.
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Done!!!!!!
hyroot
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what is that?
wzvepoint emald you back and said they wasnt going to sell in u.s market
then you said we should all email them and it might make ademand
so couldcnt you just order the ultra growth when they come out over seas because i dont think the little group we got herewould make a demand for the bulb we woukd need a shyt ton of oeople to make a demand for a light company
then you said we should all email them and it might make ademand
so couldcnt you just order the ultra growth when they come out over seas because i dont think the little group we got herewould make a demand for the bulb we woukd need a shyt ton of oeople to make a demand for a light company
well everyone i got good new today my tent is finaly in the eayafter waiting 2 weeks the kpeople finaly shipped it out today
so now i got to start my babies and hopefully theyall spriut i dont want to loose any as they are the onky seeds i got and i cant aford to buy more at this time
so now i got to start my babies and hopefully theyall spriut i dont want to loose any as they are the onky seeds i got and i cant aford to buy more at this time
hyroot
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Ok I didn't know if csrier was a typo or some place you knew about. I acfually googled it.
BlueB
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I'm starting to believe this myself. After reading the article from Ed Rosenthal about lumens being more important than wavelength. It just makes sense that plants would prefer bright light over dim wavelength. Energy is energy after all.
hyroot
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Theres a video somewhere on you tube where ed rosenthall is speaking at a convention. He talks about uv light and spectrum and he even says hes not sure when to use uv and for how long and doesnt know much about spectrum and hes learning with working with nasa at university of maryland and he eveb said that if led. Ould produce green and amber spectrums that they would be the best light of all. Rosenthall is an old grower and activist. He cofounded high times with kyle kushman. He does have a lot of experience wuth growing. Some of what he says is more opinionated than factual. So take his articles with a grain of salt.
Just from this whole t5 experience with 2 t5 grows just about done and using hid since the late 90's . From what ive seen first hand. Spectrum and par definitely triumph over lumens. I pull the same size buds under both lights. The t5 produces better quality.
Undercover Cop
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Im sure I could dig it up, but you should post their addy so we can all bombard them, Ill use 3 of my email accounts
hyroot
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pr0fesseur
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I would think that its not because they dont want to sell in the US...Im sure I could dig it up, but you should post their addy so we can all bombard them, Ill use 3 of my email accounts
remember that our government uses tariffs and regulations to stifle competition with companies like GE.. by forcing companies to register their products with UL (underwriters Limited) so that their products meet certain guidelines,,, or in reality to prevent competition with corporate donors to political parties...
(go f*#@ yourself GE for not paying taxes!)I know for a fact i can get those new bulbs AND could have them shipped overseas NO PROBLEM... someone want to order a CASE with me?
25 bulbs @ a time...
its called mailforwarding people
its how i order ALL KINDS OF GREAT SH[]T! that i cant get here in good ol USA!http://www.mailnetwork.com/
Undercover Cop
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I found an article/record of US Patents being issued... May2011 wavepoint applied for and was granted a patent for their Ultra Growth bulb... so they have the US patent, maybe trademark issues in US? I just dont know why they wouldnt offer it here, it's not like shipping from overseas is prohibitively expensive (they ship rubber chickens here from china on ships) so its gotta be some restriction keeping them from selling em here, I dont see why they would voluntarily restrict their market/sales
overTHEman
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Hey PAR T5ers.
Salvaging as much of this grow as possible, things are well for the circumstances. ReefGeek sent a replacement Fiji and it should be here by Wednesday.
Week 7
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Two votes for the CoralWave/6,500k combination?
What would a red-dominant combination of the above look like? The pr0fesseur said that he "read somewhere that the RedSun shouldn't be used on the ends of fixtures". Does anyone have experience with this?
Would anyone be able to rate this combination: RedSun, 6,500k, CoralWave, RedSun? Or suggest a better red dominant CoralWave/6,500k combination?
Salvaging as much of this grow as possible, things are well for the circumstances. ReefGeek sent a replacement Fiji and it should be here by Wednesday.
Week 7
...
Two votes for the CoralWave/6,500k combination?
What would a red-dominant combination of the above look like? The pr0fesseur said that he "read somewhere that the RedSun shouldn't be used on the ends of fixtures". Does anyone have experience with this?
Would anyone be able to rate this combination: RedSun, 6,500k, CoralWave, RedSun? Or suggest a better red dominant CoralWave/6,500k combination?
hyroot
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I saw that article too. I dont think it has to do.with trademark. Trademark is basically ownership of a name of a product or business. There are 2 types of trademarks. State and federal. State- only good in that state. Federal- good through out the U.S. Those dont hold up in other countries. Then theres trade mark laws in other countries but they only hold up in those countries.I found an article/record of US Patents being issued... May2011 wavepoint applied for and was granted a patent for their Ultra Growth bulb... so they have the US patent, maybe trademark issues in US? I just dont know why they wouldnt offer it here, it's not like shipping from overseas is prohibitively expensive (they ship rubber chickens here from china on ships) so its gotta be some restriction keeping them from selling em here, I dont see why they would voluntarily restrict their market/sales
Its probably a demographic. Thing. Or maybe its just teating an area for sales before expanding. Who knows really......