LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

anyways back to co2 1500 is optimum since i have leaks and vent 6 times a day anything over a 5x5 a tank become useless now you need a propane gen. but anyways back to the tank in my 5x5x7 tent that contains everything i enrich 6x a day a 20lb tank lasts 3-4 months. it super safe and can be out the way because you can tube the gas from the tank. trust me a 50$ tank on CL and a 100$ regulator and a 20$ refill is worth it. trust it pays for itself in one grow. super cucumbers dont happen everday im gonna post a pic hes going CRAZY since the temps have been warming up round here. thats why i origionally switched to T5 was in prep for the summer so my temps have been pretty low around 70-80. i usually run around 80-90. my nights are always 65 and i don't vent because my sleeping mothers produce co2 for my plants under 24/0 veg lights.

i just scrub the air with on filter then vent thru another filter out the tent for 15 min before every time i add co2 and 1hour b4 flower lights come on and 1 hour after they go off (save on elec and properly uses fresh air a KEY times)

Poly,

Hes not supposed to share it. Im sure some people have seen it, Ive been working with Jeff @ UVL for over 2 months on a back order. Dealers are supplied the information for when its released to the public. Its not like hes gloating about it. Patience is key.

As for CO2, can you send me pics of your set up? Some of what youre saying doesnt quite make sense to me



@CJD,

I could give two fucks what the federal government thinks or laws it has in effect. Just because something is illegal doesnt make it right. According to the constitution, the states should have 98% of the power that the federal government now controls. Some legislation later which was fabricated by greedy lobbyists and strong armed into law changed this. Look up how big oil suppressed marihuana and the hemp plant in general.

@Both of you: just drop it and move on with the thread. Going back and forth like that isnt productive and isnt going to help people reading into the 3k+ replies on this thread already.

look back a page or 2 you can see my whole setup the co2 tank is mixed in with the veg plants under T5

probably 5-8 pages back

I found what appears to be a large cylindrical object wrapped in something. Doesnt show much for the set up. I get my big shipment in Thursday (Today if you are on EST like me) so once I have everything set up Ill forward you a pic.

large cylindrical object wrapped? huh? i mean, what?

What bulbs would you guys recommend for a 4' 6 bulb only for flowering? also, how much more efficient are we talking with these bulbs over standard 3000k/6500k which i am currently using! (3000/6500/3000/3000/6500/3000)

i just remembered the pics are in my journal

@alex par lighting produces between 10-40% more useable light than standard florescents and are built to a higher standard too.

me if i was flowering with six bulbs my choices would be x2 1000k aquasun uvl, x2 coralife color max, x1 wave point coralwave, x1 zoomed reptisun 10.0

the 10000k could be interchanged with 6500k or 6700k to make it a little cheaper on the pocket

this is the order i would put them in to

10000k-colormax-reptisun-coralwave-colormax-10000k

Holy Shit! an argument here that I wasnt involved in! damn where was I?

Undercover Cop said:

Holy Shit! an argument here that I wasnt involved in! damn where was I?

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Smokin herb somewhere? xD

Alex...

2-3 FloraSuns, 2 RedSuns, 1-2 CoralWaves... flowering perfection... IR to boost flowering, Very Little Green, Good Blue, Lots of Reds... whatmorecanIsay?

hes the man(undercover cop that is), i was just covering while the teacher was gone.

his combo is better he has exp @ alex

hahahahahaahhaha!! +rep to both of you!!! thank you so much!

Undercover Cop said:

Holy Shit! an argument here that I wasnt involved in! damn where was I?

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Judging by your name; racially profiling a minority somewhere?

Sooo happy, was able to replace my 420 arc with a colormaxx today. Just wanted that little bit more red in my setup. Wish it were day 65 instead of day 11 lol.

kpmarine said:

Judging by your name; racially profiling a minority somewhere?

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this made me laugh hard! his name is undercoverCROP

polyarcturus said:

this made me laugh hard! his name is undercoverCROP

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I know it's supposed to read that way. Due to that (rather hilarious given the forum it occurred on) typo of his, I always think of cop jokes when he posts.

My setup is UVL 454nm / Korallen-Zucht Fiji Purple / UVL Red Sun / Red Sun / UVL 660nm Engineering Sample / Red Sun / Fiji Purple / UVL Super Actinic ... thats for flowering.

i know i completely distrusted him at first, super jaded. i was like if i was cop why not just say it everyone's gonna think im joking, when im not. LOLOL!

kpmarine said:

I know it's supposed to read that way. Due to that (rather hilarious given the forum it occurred on) typo of his, I always think of cop jokes when he posts.

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Hahaha. I must have missed the post where he explained his name. I honestly assumed it was just a tongue in cheek joke...

Guys, so... speculation time... I've got my new 660's, two of them. I'm thinking, drop them in in place of the two fiji purps in my flower chamber for now, and see what happens.

I was considering putting them in my 4-bulb in the veg chamber and popping them to 12/12 early... but i'm not sure what other two bulbs I would put in with them. I could put one 660 in each fixture, and one of the fijis in each fixture. Still leaves two slots in my 4-bulb un-defined... either could use some of the veg bulbs (current line up for veg is 454, Super Actinic, 75/25, and another 454) or I could pop a couple generic blooms in or something.

I'm leaning towards just putting them both in the flower chamber and leaving the veg chamber as is for now... but the plan was to side-hang that 4-bulb in the flower chamber for the next round of flowering anyway, (for a total of 14 bulbs) so I'm gonna have to figure this out sooner or later. Probably going to order a couple more of something, just not sure what yet.

My whole list of availables is:

2 Red Suns
2 660 nm's
4 Flora Suns
2 Fiji Purps
2 Coral Waves

Then I've got two empty slots, or i can put in some of the blue bulbs mentioned above from the veg chamber... but would need to drop something new in there to replace, though I could just use some grow bulbs as I have a couple (a lot) of extras.

I'm thinking for flowering I'd like to have 1 660 and 1 red sun in each fixture to spread it around... shit, I might just order some more red suns, because I feel like that's not going to be enough once I get the 14-bulbs going at once...