AltarNation
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Here's a better shot of the leaves frosting up on one of the obviously more potent ladies:
LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow
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hyroot
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I said frosty before. I love everything about them. the only thing that im not sure of but i guess its cool. even if super crop outwards or not. the branches don't grow out sideways at all really. they go straight upwards but they are not stretching
under the hps mine still got very frosty. under the t5 they got frosty much much sooner. They are caked so much more with crystals today than when I took those last pics.
under the hps mine still got very frosty. under the t5 they got frosty much much sooner. They are caked so much more with crystals today than when I took those last pics.
Kaptain Kron
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Gotta love par I love how well this thread validates LEDs as viable even tho it's a t5 grow proves that intensity plays a far second to par and proper spectrum somthin led guys been sayin forever I love this thread really shows its all about spectrum more than the light u use great job guys if i wasn't already usin LEDs I'd run this style setup
pr0fesseur
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Led definitely has its place in the Grow room. However i think that the Led has much more work to be done before its competitive.
They still dont Bin the LED to accurately measure EVERY LED. thats concerning as we dont have any idea how/IF the led will perform when its assembled.
Led still dont come in enough colors to be truly effective as they have a limited NM range.plants obviously need a larger range of light than led (at the moment) can provide.
LED IS getting better, and the prices ARE coming down. However plasma tech is coming down faster and the prices to manufacture Plasma are OLD technology.
a magnetron, ballast and a gas bulb = plasma
Plasma is also VERY efficient and produces the best(most equivilant to sunlight) and most light of ANY solution $/$
Will led become the next lighting technology...sure for low energy projects.. Now i know there are 25W-100W single diode led's out there but 300$ each is stretching my wallet too thin
Sure we can add more diodes to a board but if they get too close they WILL fail due to heat.
.. Still a major concern to microelectronics...LED/Oled is the future and will be bringing us sensor glass and see through televisions... but may loose in the longrun to a plasma based bulb.
Kaptain Kron
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Plasma has been around for long time I know All about that thanks tesla lol but I think your views while being accurate i have one qualm spectrums what nm spectrum can i not get in led? Ive seen tons of different nm leds being offered by seti cree and luxeon. I have two different kinds I use and will continue to use they are a bit expensive still and need to come down in price but kessil and blackstar have very impressive products I'm easily pulling qps off of a 133 watt draw light add my 36 watt kessil in there and I can get up to six off of one plant with five total gallons of rootspace so LEDs are definitely beginning to perform
That being said the price is still a bit high but so is the price on a decent plasma rig and til those come down more ill stick to my leds or running a t5 setup like yours. I want a plasma rig if I'm going to run any sort of hid besides a CMh right now and that's just because i can't fit t5s and LEDs too much $ for a micro grow
That being said the price is still a bit high but so is the price on a decent plasma rig and til those come down more ill stick to my leds or running a t5 setup like yours. I want a plasma rig if I'm going to run any sort of hid besides a CMh right now and that's just because i can't fit t5s and LEDs too much $ for a micro grow
Led definitely has its place in the Grow room. However i think that the Led has much more work to be done before its competitive.
They still dont Bin the LED to accurately measure EVERY LED. thats concerning as we dont have any idea how/IF the led will perform when its assembled.
Led still dont come in enough colors to be truly effective as they have a limited NM range.plants obviously need a larger range of light than led (at the moment) can provide.
LED IS getting better, and the prices ARE coming down. However plasma tech is coming down faster and the prices to manufacture Plasma are OLD technology.
a magnetron, ballast and a gas bulb = plasma
Plasma is also VERY efficient and produces the best(most equivilant to sunlight) and most light of ANY solution $/$
Will led become the next lighting technology...sure for low energy projects.. Now i know there are 25W-100W single diode led's out there but 300$ each is stretching my wallet too thin
Sure we can add more diodes to a board but if they get too close they WILL fail due to heat.
LED/Oled is the future and will be bringing us sensor glass and see through televisions... but may loose in the longrun to a plasma based bulb.
UnderCurrentDWC
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How's It guys?
Well my plants came out of the 36 hour dark cycle this morning. I under currented the two totes I'd been using, I also changed over to bloom nutes & added the other 8 bulb bb to the room giving me 24 bulbs @ ~1400-1500 watts.
Happy growing
UCDWC~
Well my plants came out of the 36 hour dark cycle this morning. I under currented the two totes I'd been using, I also changed over to bloom nutes & added the other 8 bulb bb to the room giving me 24 bulbs @ ~1400-1500 watts.
Happy growing
UCDWC~
Kaptain Kron
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Likin it that's a fuckin insane amount of t5 watts lol without par would be so wasteful but with the right bulbs fuckin magic again props to the prof what tickled ur brain the day u decided to do this i do not know but bless its heart lol
AltarNation
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I was trying to get a cat hair off a bud without hurting it (god damn cat hair is the bane of my existence at this point... getting the door tightened up with screen on the intake asap...) but I accidentally mushed my finger through the hairs a bit in the process... so I took a whiff and ho-leeee-sheeeeit that smells amazing. It's like some kind of candy bubblegum temptress.
AltarNation
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Word... I rushed to get started so I didn't dial in the enclosure all the way beforehand. Been slowly getting the enclosure squared away.
AltarNation
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Dude you are the 1011th post in the thread... if he was going to get banned it would have happened by now.
AltarNation
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Haha... no worries man. Just saying, this thread is pretty stable and I think this is a community that is open minded towards the idea!
AltarNation
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Looking good Flora...
AltarNation
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AltarNation
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Much thanks!
imlovnit24/7
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Hi everybody. I've read almost half this thread tho there's a lot of info to read and retain so I'm sorry if I'm asking ?'s that've already been asked. I'm a CFL grower and have been looking to upgrade but I've had mixed emotions on what to switch to. I've got an easy $150 to spend tho could scrape together $50 if worth it. After reading thru a lot of this HIGH-ly informative thread, I'm torn between LED and the Aquarium bulbs. Because this yr i got raped by my electric bill running about 600W between my veg area and flower box and I know i could do a lot better. I plan to go to just 1 cabinet and work on a 3-4 month cycle instead of what I'm doing now.
Spectrum's and everything make a lot of sense instead of the wasted lumens in the wrong spectrums like from HPS/MH. I just really would like to know what the best sites for pricing and availability for either setup???
My grow cabinet it 36''T x 36"W x 16"D (4sq.ft.) as long as my 150 will get me the fixture and bulbs or just 1 decent LED setup I'll be all over it.
Spectrum's and everything make a lot of sense instead of the wasted lumens in the wrong spectrums like from HPS/MH. I just really would like to know what the best sites for pricing and availability for either setup???
My grow cabinet it 36''T x 36"W x 16"D (4sq.ft.) as long as my 150 will get me the fixture and bulbs or just 1 decent LED setup I'll be all over it.