LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

I used to do and try everything, but for about 8 years now its just MJ and the occasional alcohol. Other stuff is just too bad nowadays.
 
polyarcturus said:
wish they would lock people up for thats spice shit. oh where im at bathsalt is where its at i was helping a friend who owned a corner store move that shit outside the store i couldn't believe it. from what i hear that shit is like mixing meth and acid. but we madde mad money from that stuff but i feel bad for the salt head cuz they were really fiends(i mean super fiends) for the stuff.

yeah i stay away from amphetamines too very counterproductive if you run out and my girl has control issues with these things so i just keep em out of the house.


google jenkem if you want to know how nasty organic can get
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You are not kidding about that bath salt shyt I was useing it for a wile I got aholda a guy that made it so I got it super cheap and sold it to whoever wanted it then I started to do it one night I was watching TV and out of nowhere I was inside the TV then no was back on my couch and was watching creatures and people walk up and down my hall threw the walls and shyt it was trippy but I started to hear a bunch of stories about people over dosin on it and shyt so I stoped takeing it like that and I refused to sell it after I foundout that my ex girlfriends dad was tweeked out on the shyt and went missing for a week then turned up in his house one morning dead after that I put a stop to anyone in my town selling the shyt
 
polyarcturus said:
wish they would lock people up for thats spice shit. oh where im at bathsalt is where its at i was helping a friend who owned a corner store move that shit outside the store i couldn't believe it. from what i hear that shit is like mixing meth and acid. but we madde mad money from that stuff but i feel bad for the salt head cuz they were really fiends(i mean super fiends) for the stuff.

yeah i stay away from amphetamines too very counterproductive if you run out and my girl has control issues with these things so i just keep em out of the house.


google jenkem if you want to know how nasty organic can get
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It's pretty much crack and meth rolled into one. The bath salts I mean. My friend's ex husband got into that shit, it isn't pretty. Acts just like someone that smoked meth.
 
kpmarine said:
Why do companies that make bulbs for coral or agriculture feel that a SPD chart is optional most times?
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well imo they feel it isnt needed so that they can bend the truth about the bulb if they dont have a published chart they can tell you it hits whatever they want to

but thats me just saying what i think as i have delt with my fair share of buisnesses that arent to truthfull
 
that shouldnt be optional but its a loop hole they use to their advantage for advertising purpose's show good spectrum pics and keep the bad one out. if you look hard enough ther is almost always a pdf somewhere but i would have to have the bulb in my hands to find it. (lots of variables so i cant just google the numbers on a website, i need serial codes, mfg #s, and probably some numbers off the packaging)
but anyways i meant coralife
 
pedro420 said:
well imo they feel it isnt needed so that they can bend the truth about the bulb if they dont have a published chart they can tell you it hits whatever they want to

but thats me just saying what i think as i have delt with my fair share of buisnesses that arent to truthfull
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That's pretty much what I've thought.
 
Alter those look sooo good. I think if you told someone you grew it under t5 , they would say no f^%$ way.
It looks like everyone is doing good with the t5s.
I am an old timer [Viet Nam vet] What the hell is bath salt???? Don't you bath with it?? like Epsom's??
I hope I can start my Co-lases seeds about the same time you do Alter. So we can compare the growes.
I am still waiting on my seeds.
I remember smoking ants when in Nam. I miss the old days , we could get mandrex. I called them pantie droppers.
Give a girl a couple beens and off came the panties,. Good times.
 
falcon223 said:
Alter those look sooo good. I think if you told someone you grew it under t5 , they would say no f^%$ way.
It looks like everyone is doing good with the t5s.
I am an old timer [Viet Nam vet] What the hell is bath salt???? Don't you bath with it?? like Epsom's??
I hope I can start my Co-lases seeds about the same time you do Alter. So we can compare the growes.
I am still waiting on my seeds.
I remember smoking ants when in Nam. I miss the old days , we could get mandrex. I called them pantie droppers.
Give a girl a couple beens and off came the panties,. Good times.
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Hah. Thanks Falcon, they are certainly coming along. Can't wait to see how they finish out and what kind of numbers I see on it...

"bath salts" is just a guise... it's the name they sell it under... so that they can get away with it, basically. "not for human consumption" and all that. Llike the k2 "incense"

What the hell is mandrex? And smoking ants? damn, haha...

I'm planning to wait a couple more weeks before poppin' the colossus... quite probably right around the time these flowers finish. Hoping to pick up one more fixture in the mean time so that I can add the 4-bulb unit I have to the 10 bulbs I have in flower now for a total of 14... maybe get a new 6-bulb for vegging... of course then I'll be tempted to put the 6-bulb in the flower chamber instead... haha.
 
Its funny, I find myself refering people to this thread so often on other threads lately. I have found it so helpfull that I seem to think that everyone should read it. lol, just realized it when my fingers just automaticly started typing a response in another thread asking about T5's. Had to share.
 
falcon223 said:
Alter those look sooo good. I think if you told someone you grew it under t5 , they would say no f^%$ way.
It looks like everyone is doing good with the t5s.
I am an old timer [Viet Nam vet] What the hell is bath salt???? Don't you bath with it?? like Epsom's??
I hope I can start my Co-lases seeds about the same time you do Alter. So we can compare the growes.
I am still waiting on my seeds.
I remember smoking ants when in Nam. I miss the old days , we could get mandrex. I called them pantie droppers.
Give a girl a couple beens and off came the panties,. Good times.
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Bath salts are the new crank, that's legal. They are sold at gas stations packaged as "bath salts" to avoid regulations, and therefore remaining legal.
 
I'll agree that it's way better to use actual cannabis instead of synthetic cannabinoids if you can. I'm however, looking for a job. I use am2233 and in no way do I claim it's safe, but it is an option for me.
 
kpmarine said:
Bath salts are the new crank, that's legal. They are sold at gas stations packaged as "bath salts" to avoid regulations, and therefore remaining legal.
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It's true that some of these research chemicals labeled "Bath Salts" are amphetamine anologs, but some are much different. For example the phenethylamines such as the 2c chemicals are powerful hallucinogens that rival the effects of shrooms and Lsd. 2c-e, is incredible! ...but not necessarily safe.
 
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