LEDs May not be all hype?

kg mog33 said:
And you should be pulling 3 pounds off a single 7 foot plant.... but the yield makes sense considering theres no way a 1000 watt penetrates 7 feet deep lol. Lots of larf i bet.

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all big buds. I still don't believe you. I've seen the hugest outdoors. 15 feet tall 15 feet wide. Lower buds were as big as my leg. She barley hit 7 lbs. She only grows 2 plants every season.

but big bud is a big yielder and grand daddy is too. They are lower quality strains.
 
hyroot said:
all big buds. I still don't believe you. I've seen the hugest outdoors. 15 feet tall 15 feet wide. Lower buds were as big as my leg. She barley hit 7 lbs. She only grows 2 plants every season.

but big bud is a big yielder and grand daddy is too. They are lower quality strains.
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Kens cut gdp is pretty good bud imo. Sorry that pics arent good enough for you lol. And ive pulled more than 10 pounds off of ssh outdoor plants, 4 pounds is average outside, not great. So what you have proven is that you havent seen the hugest of anything. And theres no way a 1000 pulled solid nugs 7 feet down. Sorry

And 15 feet tall and 15 feet wode should yield a lot more than 7pounds. Our ssh in our greenhouse were averaging 8 to 12 feet. Had a couple of 14 to 16 footers.

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Unless you were supplementing light below the canopy.

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kens GDP has almost no trichome development and about 14% THC... I don't like purple flavors. I'm more about hash though... I do 23% - 30% THC and 8% cbd's . I'd rather have a pound of high quality than 5 lbs of GDP. In SoCal the GDP will be for edibles only.. Nobody wants gdp
 
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kens GDP has almost no trichome development and about 14% THC... I don't like purple flavors. I'm more about hash though... I do 23% - 30% THC and 8% cbd's . I'd rather have a pound of high quality than 5 lbs of GDP. In SoCal the GDP will be for edibles only.. Nobody wants gdp
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Im in socal and people seemed to like it at our dispensary. Shit flew out at 2800 a p. So we did alright. Kens gdp was a good sleeper bud as far as i remember, though we werent growing it to smoke. We had skywalker og, true og, and dj short bb in one of our trays for personals.

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I hate dispensaries. they fucked it up for all of us.. They wont pay a reasonable price for our product. Then sell it for triple and quadruple the price. Then they call the farmers greedy. Yet they don't put in any work. They have no idea ho much work it really takes to grow high quality meds. they are the greedy fucks. They dont care about patients or farmers. Dispensaries are the only business with 150% profit margin. Most businesses have a 25% profit margin. They rape the farmers and patients.. they wont pay more than 2500 for a pound and they turn into $6000. they don't pay their employees shit either... 1 or 2 days of sales will cover all their bills. They could pay farmers 3500 a pound and still make a killing... in socal the average price non dipensary is $3000- $3400 in norcal its the opposite of what it used to be. the going rate is $3800- $4000. I almost want to move up there.. Its so boring
 
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I hate dispensaries. they fucked it up for all of us..
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hyroot said:
I hate dispensaries. they fucked it up for all of us.. They wont pay a reasonable price for our product. Then sell it for triple and quadruple the price. Then they call the farmers greedy. Yet they don't put in any work. They have no idea ho much work it really takes to grow high quality meds. they are the greedy fucks. They dont care about patients or farmers. Dispensaries are the only business with 150% profit margin. Most businesses have a 25% profit margin. They rape the farmers and patients.. they wont pay more than 2500 for a pound and they turn into $6000. they don't pay their employees shit either... 1 or 2 days of sales will cover all their bills. They could pay farmers 3500 a pound and still make a killing... in socal the average price non dipensary is $3000- $3400 in norcal its the opposite of what it used to be. the going rate is $3800- $4000. I almost want to move up there.. Its so boring
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Our dispensary grew all our own meds, and sold them pretty cheap. And and its been a long time since you could get 3500 per down in la. And its not because of the dispensaries, its because the market is flooded with growers trying to sell their weed, its like the economy, if the market is flooded, prices go down, if the product is rare, prices go up. If you could eliminate 80% of the growers in california, you could get 4000 per again. But the fact is, not only are there growers in ca but there are also tons of people moving to cali to grow for profit. Most of the clubs out.here are owned by russians and Armenians, like came here from there with a bunch of cash to grow huge weed operations/dispensaries for money. A lot of the clubs out here wont even except vendors because of this type of setup.

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Its not the dispensaries its the market and all the people trying to grow weed for a living.

And also if it costs 1 to 4 dollars a gram to grow as far as electricity, i know im not taking equipment and such costs in but, isnt the mark up from grower to dispensary than dispensary to people, and breaking it down into grams help. If anyone sold grams instead of ps they would make more money right?

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kmog33 said:
Its not the dispensaries its the market and all the people trying to grow weed for a living.

And also if it costs 1 to 4 dollars a gram to grow as far as electricity, i know im not taking equipment and such costs in but, isnt the mark up from grower to dispensary than dispensary to people, and breaking it down into grams help. If anyone sold grams instead of ps they would make more money right?

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True all the way. Thanks for the pictures I enjoyed jizzing in my pants. I average about 2 lbs per 1200 watts so I'm a little jealous of your 2 gpw. I'm never too proud to ask for tips from an expert so if you got any share away ;)
I'm guessing that's all organic also correct?
 
hyroot said:
all big buds. I still don't believe you. I've seen the hugest outdoors. 15 feet tall 15 feet wide. Lower buds were as big as my leg. She barley hit 7 lbs. She only grows 2 plants every season.

but big bud is a big yielder and grand daddy is too. They are lower quality strains.
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This is my first real season outdoor I've never really wanted to fuck around with it. I'm shooting for around 10z a plant. I'm doing 70 of these mother fuckers so I really don't even wanna hear they get that big because I don't even know what I would do with all that haha
 
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True all the way. Thanks for the pictures I enjoyed jizzing in my pants. I average about 2 lbs per 1200 watts so I'm a little jealous of your 2 gpw. I'm never too proud to ask for tips from an expert so if you got any share away ;)
I'm guessing that's all organic also correct?
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2 grams isnt a regular thing for me, but does happen with better yielding strains. I average 1 to 1.4 per watt for my personals tbh. Just grabbed an led though and i am liking quality so well see how this harvest turns out.

And ya organic. Botanicare pure blend and sensi calmag.

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i don't believe supply and demand have anything to do with the weed prices. there is 100 times more weed in norcal than socal . prices up there are higher.. the dispensaries set the price. the dispensary price used to be the street price. for a short time last year when alot of clubs were being shut down. the dispensary prices went up, along with street prices.. I think we need to get rid of the middle man bullshit and connect patients to farmers.
 
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And also if it costs 1 to 4 dollars a gram to grow as far as electricity, i know im not taking equipment and such costs in but
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$1 to $4/gr, ouch. When I was using HPS it cost me about $0.60/gram for electricity in the summer, $0.40/gr in the winter. With LED it cost me less than $0.20/gram. That is for the whole system, vegging, cloning, flowering, circulation, ventilation, AC/demhumidifier. That is at the total rate of $0.13/kWh.

Sorry OP off topic but, If I look at weed prices from a consumer standpoint, it just makes me want to grow it myself. If I look at weed prices from a grower standpoint, I realize that we can provide people with bomb fire dank for relatively cheap prices and still have an awesome profit.

Some of my grower buddies spend a fortune on bottled nutes/soil each cycle. It really cuts into their profit but I see it as an unnecessary cost. If you recycle your soil you can just use granular ferts like organic chicken manure, kelp, guano, azomite and fish hydrolysate, blackstrap, homemade EWC. If you order in bulk a few hundred dollars will last you a few years.
 
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$1 to $4/gr, ouch. When I was using HPS it cost me about $0.60/gram for electricity in the summer, $0.40/gr in the winter. With LED it cost me less than $0.20/gram. That is for the whole system, vegging, cloning, flowering, circulation and ventilation, AC/demhumidifier. That is at the total rate of $0.13/kWh.
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Ya i went high because if you do terribly its still cheap and the markup is huge. I think mine tent comes out to 0.33 but electricity is expensive here

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kmog33 said:
Ya i went high because if you do terribly its still cheap and the markup is huge. I think mine tent comes out to 0.33 but electricity is expensive here

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Idk about you guys but my electric doubles over the last few months. It was almost at .16 kWh. Highest I've ever seen.
 
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